Fox243

I’ve been going through a lot of the literature and I personally think an experiment with better measurement is the best thing for us to do, now that we have a better idea to measure things. I think it’s unlikely the recipient area testing would be as successful b/c it seems like you need to wound the skin deep enough for it to figure out whether to go into a pro-fibrotic state or scarred state.

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They have no incentive as it's off patent. I think HairDAO might end up funding a trial soon anyways though, so I will see.

No, I'm not affiliated with the company that sells verteporfin. I make no money from this. I just want to see more testing done for verteporfin and am dismayed at the lack of progress being made across the world. It is definitely way to soon to say I can go to NW1 with verteporfin, but it is not too soon to say it does something beneficial and has no downside. It has a very favorable risk-reward profile.

In the past few days, we've clearly seen that verteporfin has major upside (significant regrowth and reduced scarring) and no downside. Why are people still considering getting a HT without verteporfin? If you do, you may be scarred forever. I think verteporfin could really take off if people keep mentioning it in their hair transplant consultations and suggesting that they'd only get a transplant if they could use vert. They can connect their doctor to people like Melvin or me (I'm in constant contact with Dr. Bloxham, Dr. Barghouthi, and Dr. Pittella's nurse, sharing with them all the protocol and research we've developed together). Happy to provide my contact info over DM. With verteporfin, anybody could theoretically get to a NW1 without needing to take meds.

Potentially, but there's been no research showing that it can be effective on old scars iirc. I think it should work, but that's pure speculation.

Trust me, even after studying this for 1.5 years, I'm still shocked. But I, like you, am extremely analytical and this is the #1 shot at greatly increasing our chances for more hair. It only hasn't caught more attention mainstream b/c it requires surgery, but the audience at HRN is the perfect candidate for it. The way I see it, people using verteporfin have got nothing to lose and only things to gain.

If I were you, I'd try to wait for more trials with verteporfin or if you're impatient, I can try to ask Dr. Barghouthi to use verteporfin for you. We are not sure if verteporfin can be used on old scars, which is why it might be important to use it on the few grafts you have left. I've been leading the verteporfin efforts for 1.5 years now, and I'm happy to help you over DM.

There's also a huge difference between Zarev and Eugenix. Zarev has 3 hour long consultations with extremely detailed measurements where he does every part of the procedure while Eugenix is like most other top HT clinics. You will be sacrificing ~15% of quality when choosing Zarev vs the standard package at Eugenix or any other shop (H&W, etc)

Yes, Dr. Barghouthi has gone above and beyond, way more than what I would’ve ever thought for a first trial. Remember he has no obligation to be sharing anything with the public. He could’ve just shared the results in the end and got a 5 year waiting list and doubled his prices once he perfected the technique. There’s nothing wrong with being critical – in fact being critical is what leads to improvements. However, the criticism should be constructive and not dooming - feels like a lot of criticism is trying to nitpick every little detail and making a mountain out of a molehill.

Dang we might be cured bois

He’s been lagging with the videos. The video you’re referring to is the day of the operation. His newest video just released the one month results. He will be releasing the 3 month results over the next few weeks.

We’ve only seen one month of results – think we need to wait till month 4 or so for a better assessment.

Hi @DrTBarghouthi, would love when to hear when you think you could share the photos.

Thanks for the writeup. Why did you not use beard grafts?

Agreed, the FUT should actually have a better chance of regrowing hair because of increasing Shh signaling in a deeper wounds. It’s similar to how unsuccessful attempts have been made to apply Verteporfin after microneedling – the deeper the wound, the better the results.

Looks great for 4500 grafts.

Agreed, I am very thankful for Dr. Barghouthi, and if anyone wants to blame anyone, please blame me for requesting Dr. Barghouthi to postpone the trial in hopes for Dr. Longaker sharing any critical info.

I'm quite excited for this, especially the 1.5 year update

Any updates here?

Unlucky, but thanks for the update!

Would you say its possible to have a result like this if you're only willing to take topical minoxidil and not oral minoxidil if you're NW7?

Yes, I can add you. Requirements are to have either invested enough time or money into furthering Verteporfin. I will DM you an invite link after my shift ends.

Thanks for the update! You're the GOAT.

I would agree with all of this, but I would say even NW2 is too ambitious. I think NW2.5-3 is more reasonable