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Agreed, happy that OP seems to be happy with his result, but this doesn't look like 5500 grafts even if spread over a larger surface area. For most people at his stage, another 5000 grafts would be full coverage with decent density, but I don't foresee that happening unfortunately. Let's hope I'm wrong.

I'd say your best chance is to just contact Dr. Barghouthi for a transplant and request for verteporfin.

Why do people think it was photoshopped if 1) we saw FAKI work as well, 2) multiple other studies have shown verteporfin's results, 3) dr.barghouthi's pics are legit, 4) dr.barghouthi's biopsy was super legit, 5) longaker is not going to throw away decades of respect for some photoshopped results.

None of the scientists at this caliber are going to photoshop results lol. If it were really photoshopped, they would've tried to make money on this asap rather than having gone through a rigorous, slow process over the last 3 years.

Would you consider going to Pittella to see if he can alleviate your situation with beard + body grafts?

I heard finasteride was optional though, especially since you're a NW6

Yeah, I just watched this video. As Dr. Bloxham said, something different is definitely happening. Seems to be regrowth but def not as pronounced as Dr. Barghouthi.

Just as an update, I lost my job a few days ago so I will not be doing anything Verteporfin related for the next few weeks at least. Just wanted to give the update for transparency.

Agreed, I think he should be on list. Quick question, did he ask to be recommended on the forum?

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Have you seen much help with the medications or nothing much?

My main concern is people may not realize it’s been moved and therefore not be able to find the thread. Perhaps we put out an announcement it’s been moved?

Thanks – anyways, I don’t care about the credit which is why I stay anon. I just hope that more of the community can help take actionable steps so we can get our hair back. People like Melvin and me only have so much time. I think the result is interesting, but not something I give much credibility to just because there’s too many uncontrolled variables.

I think 0.4 is close to the optimal dose. Yes, as shown in the mice and pig study, higher doses could cause detrimental effects. It's likely not because we are inhibiting YAP too much, rather verteporfin itself has some negative off-target effects that likely outweigh the YAP inhibition at higher doses. Ideally, if we had a purer YAP inhibitor, we'd get better results.

I think "most of us Cant comprehend a scientific paper. best we can do is read the abstract and the results sections or at least me." is an excuse tbh. I'm the one who worked out the doses to try out from extrapolating from mice studies, despite having taken 0 courses in biology. It all depends on one's self drive to learn and solve your own problems, rather than relying on someone else. These doctors are already so busy with their day practice and even coordinating the whole verteporfin trial that they may not be able to become experts in the science, but that's where we can help. Regarding the credible and reliable vert supply, that is something the community can be doing. I, for example, emailed around 150 pharmacies in the US and am in talks of getting one to be reliable, but it may fail. I don't see why other can't do what I am doing.

I will contact him at the 6 month mark and share what I am able.

If you don’t think mass emailing doctors will be useful, at least volunteer to help with coming up with new ideas and such to increase regeneration. Read through papers to help theorize optimal doses, injection techniques, etc. There’s so many variables to tinker with to learn about instead of complaining. And there is data – very detailed FUE data in fact with biopsy counts and good quality pictures.

Rather than complain, can you instead do productive things like mass emailing other docs to try out verteporfin? the only person with a right to complain is arcturus who put in 14.5k or the few members of the community who have done dozens of hours of research like melvin or me who wrote the 20 page vert doc.

Yes, both doctors have just received their trichoscan devices, and are waiting till mid Jan before they can talk to the company about how to use it.

Personally, after seeing his 3 month results, I was a bit disappointed, especially compared to Dr. Barghouthi's 3 month results, so I'm not expecting much. Not sure what went wrong, be it that it was an FUT or the procedure in some other way, but I'm more excited for Dr. Barghouthi's upcoming trial.

It could also be not promising and prevent people from trying it out.

I’ll ask him at the 6 month mark so in two weeks.

It would be interesting to examine but ultimately, the pig study only uses it once and we first need to prove that verteporfin works well for a one time use before thinking about how to optimize it.

Because it’s his trial, I would rather wait till he feels comfortable sharing whatever he wants publicly. I have been getting lots of DMs about vert and it’s been a bit overwhelming so I am going to be off the site for a few weeks. I will return after the holidays.