InTheSix

some update:

- Yes they are both the same formulation (Macdonalds and Xyon)

- Xyon is $100 a month, if your doc recommends application daily.. (half, if your applying every other day, as I have been told to do so)

- Xyon is higher in price.

- Macdonalds will eventually cease to prorduce the topical for H&W, but I think there is still some time for that.

Hope that helps.

Wondering if anyone here orders topical finasteride from Macdonalds pharmacy in Vancouver ?

I seem to be having a lot of issues getting prescription (from Dr Wong) filled from this pharmacy. I was told that the initial order takes time (2-3 month) since they prioritize existing patients, but I got my first order in over 4 months. 

Now its been over 1 month, and they cant seem to fill my re-fill.. Every week, they say another few weeks. And I am getting close to running out on the topical.

Question:

- Anyone having similar issues ?

- If so, any resolution  (the pharmacist did say he will try to send a smaller pump, but nothing on that front yet)

- Any recommendation where I can get a reliable alternative source ?

- I am told by the clinic that Xyon in exactly the same medication, so I might try that (just that I am currently one month invested in this pharmacy, so I guess still betting on a unwell horse, than a new one). Not sure if I am reading the website correctly, but for anyone that uses their service, is it really $100 bucks a month ? (seems more than triple for what I am getting (when I do) at Macdonalds, given its the same thing)

Thanks for your time as always.

4 hours ago, Smacias15 said:

What's a good place to get topical fin or dust?

I get mine from macdonalss pharmacy in vancouver via a prescriltion from H&W.

You can also get it from a new website dr hasson started recently. 

I am told both products are same.

P.s i am referring to topical finas. No experience or dutas.

Best

11 hours ago, geochelone said:

Hell everyone,

 

I (30 male, NW 4-5) m scheduled for a hair transplant next week (Dr Serkan Aygin). A coworker went there and had amazing results, plus it's really cheap there compared to what they charge you in Western Europe (prices I can't afford).

I always thought that, worst case, the HT fails, I go back to shaving. However I discovered now there are risks like cobblestoning which are irreversible, and that shaving will be complicated anyways if the HT fails because there will be little scars (FUE). How big is the risk for cobblestoning, for example ?

So now I need to pick your collective brain.

 

Im advance, thank you very much for your answers.

 

Overall its a low risk..  but you are going to a place where the doctor has minimal involvement, so it depends mostly on the skill on the tech you get... fyi, i also knw a close friend that went to serkan, and he confirmed the he didnt show up for the surgery much... he is however, happy with his HT..   best of luck

On 2/3/2022 at 7:06 PM, Smacias15 said:

I just had a transplant and want to maximize my survival rate. So was wondering any recommendations from you guys of where to get quality ones.

 

Thanks 

These are not compounded, so they are consistent in quality from most reputable places.. 

Topical finas on the other hand can differ depending on where you get it

On 2/3/2022 at 1:50 AM, tokerutaichou said:

7 months update

So I decided to continue updating every month. Here are this month's photos.

I think there's some more improvement. What do you think?

 

definitely improving month over month.. you still have more new growth to experience and thickening of the hair.. 

On 2/1/2022 at 5:57 PM, Hair Triggered said:

8.5 months. Coming in longer and stronger. 

you have come so far from where you started.. great stuff... still a few more months of improvement to go... best of luck

On 1/6/2022 at 12:18 AM, mariner_24 said:

I am starting Topical Fin from xyon. So we will see how it goes. Anybody else try it yet?

i got the one from McDonalds pharmacy that they prescribed mid-last year. was told its the same thing as Xyon (just no shortage issue, as with the pharmacy).. havent tried it for long enough to form an opinion yet.. but will update

On 1/25/2022 at 2:03 PM, kirkland said:

some hairs in the left hairline have gone rogue! they're hilarious - they have just grown thicker and more wild. I don't think i shed these hairs yet. 

the area is still obviously red/purple which gives it a darker background, less contrast. still pretty amazed overall.

Happy to see people conquer their hair loss, especially the high NW folks (as I am.. was)...  I went with H&W 1st (since it was tough to get back into Canada in early phase of Covid), and probably will head out to Eugenix next ... i would suspect Rahal would have refused to take you on as HT candidate (did to me)....   those uneven growth are normal, and will in most cases balance out in the latter months.... happy growing 

21 hours ago, WS2020 said:

Another update after almost 15 months. Got a fresh haircut this weekend and the hair transplant result is pre. I am still on Fin 1mg three times a week and do feel some brain fog sometime. May try the tropical but unsure. I also apply Minoxidil 10% mousse everyday. 

My wife does like the results overall and ask me to consider to do another transplant to fill out the crown. I am using Caboki and feel it is doing a great job. Maybe down the road but I just don't want to go through another surgery and recovery now.

Here are some fresh photos

this looks great ... where did you get the "minoxidil mousee"

On 1/22/2022 at 10:14 AM, quantumhair said:

I have been researching for a couple of weeks. Although I can't rule out there may be good doctors in India that are not necessarily popular in this forum, I still need a way to know for sure. So I'm mainly considering the doctors/clinics that are referenced in this forum. In the process I consulted many clinics with varying prices and confidence.

History of hair loss:

My hair loss started almost 10 years ago(late teens) and in the current stage now. It's genetic from my maternal grand mother's side. All her brothers are bald and many examples in their families with people having history of losing hair when they were young. I have been unlucky.

 

Some are not talked in this forum such as some clinics like:

 1. redefineu

 2. sriroop

 3. microsurge

 

Some are referenced in this forum due to their popularity in foreign nationals(?) and good results(?):

1. Eugenix (I got to know this first from a friend whose colleague has done the procedure here.)

2. DermaClinix

3. MediSpa

4. DHI India

5. Dr. Madhu (I don't see recent posts though in this forum)

What do you think about DermaClinix if I get my surgery by their main doctors? I can't afford top packages in Eugenix that are done by Dr. Arika or Dr. Pradeep. To be honest even their comprehensive package is a bit high to me.

My question is, is it better to have surgery performed by:

1. The main surgeons of DermaClinix (AIIMS alumini just like Dr Arika and Sethi)

2. (or) The Comprehensive Package of Eugenix where they mentioned that the procedure will be done by Eugenix trained doctor and technicians. (Not Senior Doctors, Senior doctors is a different package).

 

Note: Most clinics told it's grade 6 except DermaClinix.

 

Eugenix Proposal: (They told it's grade 6)

As per Eugenix my graft requirement is 5500: (3500 to 4000 from scalp, and 1500 from beard). This is the density proposed by them:

1. Frontal Scalp: 2200 to 2500

2. Mid Scalp: 1500

3. Crown: 1500

Single session(2 days procedure).

Medi Spa:

I got a reply from Medi Spa via email. They proposed 4000 grafts from donor scalp area using their FUT+FUE technique. This will be a single day procedure. They told another session will be needed later on to cover crown area but didn't specify number of grafts. I asked them a follow up question whether they can use my beard hair to increase number of grafts and coverage on crown area in the first session. They told that is possible but they can only tell a day before the surgery in personal consultation about that and how many grafts they can do(500-1000 easily if possible). The charge varies for beard grafts(not a problem for me given that I have limited options now).

Update from Medi Spa: 1000 grafts can be taken easily from beard but they still wouldn't touch crown area. That will be done only after 12 months in a different session.

Derma Clinix Proposal: (They told it's grade 7)

1. 7000 grafts.

2. Session 1: About 4500 grafts covering frontal and mid area.

3. Session 2(For crown. After 3 months after donor is healed and evaluation of the prior session): Remaining 2500 grafts.

4. Slightly different pricing if I choose BIO FUE.

(Both Scalp and Beard hair will be used similar to Eugenix)

 

DHI India

DHI was conservative in giving their estimated they just told 5000 hairs will be planted. Note that these are hairs/follicles not grafts which I obviously felt wouldn't be sufficient.

Appreciate your comments on pictures and my situation.

(PS: I'm from India. The perception of pricing may differ from a western view due to Socio Economic Factors.)

Off topic: I feel it's better to enable the Follow Topic check box by default for question posters as they most probably would like to see the replies. I'm guessing this is the reason some are not coming back to forum after their hair transplant even if we comment on their post to post their current status as they wouldn't receive an email. Just a thought.

I have a similar loss like yours.. IMO the 2 most important things you need to decide are a) what is the final result.you will be satisfied with b) what.sort of time and money you want to spend on it.. your hair loss is extensive...5000k will barely jus take you close to (decent) coverage. You need 8k-9k graft.. that will be a ton of money and several HTs and heck lot of patience (assuming each HT is relatively successful).. make sure you are ready for that longgg journey.. if you want to have the option of wearing your hair extremely buzzed after HT, avoid FUT.. otherwise, it "may" yeild more.graft overall..

Personally I avoided mega sessions (one and done).. instead went with a 3.1k 1st HT to address frontal and lateral humps and then will do mid/crown in the 2nf HT (have a booking at Eugenix later in the year) and then probably a 3rd HT to address anything left/possible...all in all almost 3 to 4 years by the time i will be at where i hope to be at if at least most of things go in my favor..

You will need to build ur lateral humps, your occipital area looks like the best donor (mine is too), probably avoid using grafts making temporal peaks (they are nice to have but you probably have more imp use for your limited grafts)

its a game of grafts, patience, luck and money... plan accordingly 

44 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

After two long years of waiting for my surgery, the day for departing Australia had finally arrived. I made my way to Melbourne airport on Sunday. With a couple of hours up my sleeve and with Australian border bureaucracy as it has been, there had to be still one form that was missing. Fortunately, a Qantas official came to my aid and spent an hour with me on my phone downloading apps, uploading more pics, documents, etc, until eventually I was on that plane and it was lift off at long last. When I landed in Delhi after a long flight, lot of great memories came flooding back to me, having travelled and back packed through India several times before. However, once I walked out of the Delhi airport this time, I soon realized that this was no back packing trip. I arrived to the greetings of a huge bouquet of flowers and a camera crew which greeted me like a rock star, filming and capturing photos of my every move! First off I was met by Raj from Eugenix who chatted with me in the car about a host of different issues (apart from just hair) as our driver Jeldah drove. Next when we arrived at the Eugenix Farmhouse and I thought I had arrived in Shangri la! If you do go to Eugenix for surgery, get used to the staff fighting over carrying the smallest bag upon you. It was here also that I finally met Anil. While chatting with Anil I began to hear the dulcet tones of  ‘Welcome brother!’ I turned around to see Dr Pradeep, who welcomed me with a huge embrace. I was told to sit and eat (something that Melvin had warned me about but no amount of fasting could have prepared me for this much food!!!). THE FOOD! For the next eight days it just never ended! ‘Twenty seven’ hours later after dinner I was taken to the Westin Hotel to sleep on the first night before my first day of surgery the following day.

 

 

I awoke the next morning feeling fully rested and after eating a huge breakfast I was picked up and driven to Eugenix. I was introduced to the Eugenix film crew which decided that we should do some video’s in the morning before surgery with Muddah, Raman, Yash, Pradeek and Aditya. The problem during filming though was that Yash kept geting the giggles and we all lost our shit!! CUT! (Be prepared to have camera’s around you at times and just take it all in your stride and have fun!) After filming the next stop was with Dr Pradeep in his office and he assessed my scalp and beard donor supply. Despite the many photos, video’s and WhatsApp chats with Dr Pradeep over the past couple of years, my donor fell short of what Dr Pradeep was expecting. The scalp donor was a little less robust and even my beard was less than what he had imagined. Still, Dr Pradeep was not dissuaded, and he ensured me that I would get a great result regardless and that we should be aiming to extract up to 8,000 grafts to which I was delighted to hear. However harvesting my grafts turned out to be more of a marathon than a sprint. The original three days of surgery that Dr Pradeep had initially planned now turned out into becoming six long days straight, totaling almost 60 hours on the table. As I write this now however and reflecting on my experience, it was worth every single minute of it.

 

Dr Pradeep then then drew my hairline free hand and I was delighted that it included hiding my hairline scar (from previous botched work) that had always been a source for self-consciousness for myself. He drew the hairline so that the grafts would come down to just ‘kiss’ the very edge behind the scar on the left, slightly overlap the scar at the mid point and then rise a little behind the scar on the right as it met the opposing temple. In all, my 15 cm long hair line scar would now be reduced to just 1.5cm’s exposed and yet this new hairline would still look natural and non-juvenile for my age. There was nothing I wanted to change about it. It was asymmetrical and it just looked natural in both its height and design. I was then taken to a cloak room to change out of my clothes and into patient garb and after a short wait with an explanation of what was involved with surgery, I entered the theatre. Here I was greeted by more nurses, doctors, techs, etc, as my long-awaited surgery began. Dr Pradeep began making the slits for the hairline and the beginning of the frontal third while scalp grafts began to be extracted by the very competent Dr Shishir. When the first day was finished, I was given medication by Anil who explained to me what to take and when. The next morning, I was again picked up from the Westin where I again stayed for the second night and we again returned to Eugenix to repeat the procedure. More grafts were extracted from the scalp and Dr Pradeep began to assess my beard for both hair quality and density, etc. After anesthesia was injected into my cheeks and my face became numbed, Dr Shishir began scoring out and extracting beard grafts that were to be used for behind the hairline, the mid-section and for the crown which were to be mixed in with more scalp grafts. By the end of the second day, we had 5,000 pre made slits in total and 1,235 grafts transplanted and to top all of this off I now had temple points! 184 scalp grafts for the left temple point and 223 scalp grafts for the right temple point. It was slow and steady going as there were many challenges that we had to face. This surgery wasn’t simply a straightforward hair transplant. We had to tackle poor scalp donor, a large head and crown and scars along the hairline and donor area that I wanted to be addressed. Dr Pradeep attacked this like a mathematical equation and though he didn’t always say much, you could almost hear his mind ticking over as his talent rose to the fore, drawing on the thousands of surgeries he had performed before. I never once doubted or questioned any of Dr Pradeep’s decisions, nor that of any of the other doctors or techs involved. I asked a lot of questions at times and they answered each and every one of them. Their skills in patient communication matched that of their surgical brilliance! The entire team worked along like a well-oiled machine in harmony the entire time.

 

Day three and another long ten-hour day of surgery soon began. By the end of this day we were now at a total of 5,765 grafts moved. When surgery was finished, I was then driven to the Eugenix farm house for another ‘HUUUUUGE’ dinner. After dinner I relaxed sitting around the fire outside with Dr Pradeep and some of his friends. One was a famous Hindi singer and the other was Dr Vinita or ‘Winnie’ who was involved in my surgery and I must admit was very ‘easy on the eyes’ to say the least! After chatting with Winnie after this night I kept telling myself that if I was only 20 years younger and an extra 5,000 scalp grafts! Hmmmm!!!!! 😉Just as with the Eugenix surgery staff, the Eugenix farm house had staff that would attend to your every whim and need. Apart from a chef being on hand all hours there was the ever-faithful Sudhir who would spray down the grafts every evening when I returned from a day in surgery and was at my beck and call if ever I needed anything no matter how small. The selflessness and care from Sudhir was overwhelming and was consistent with that of every single member of the Eugenix team across the board.

 

Another morning and again that ‘bottomless breakfast’ was served! After gaining another 10kg’s I was again driven to Eugenix on day four and today Dr Pradeep and Dr Shisher were examining my chest in search for suitable chest hair grafts that would match and serve to be utilized as a filler in the crown along with scalp and beard grafts. This was yet again another long day. Up until now, everything in terms of pain management had been smooth sailing. I had never once felt any pain as at any time you could stop to request more anesthesia. I generally also have quite a high pain threshold anyway. However, due to the almost 30 hours of concentration, I found mental fatigue starting to set in and becoming a little bit of an issue for me. It was today that I would begin to ask for a little bit more of anesthesia than I had prior. Nevertheless I was determined to push on and to see this through for however long it would take. I decided to let go of counting the tally of grafts being taken and just put all of my attention into the job at hand. By the end of this day however we had a combined total of 7,853 grafts and of those I was delighted that 3,190 were from the scalp! Dr Pradeep had told me that despite my poor scalp donor he was hoping that we could harvest somewhere between 3,000 – 3,500 scalp grafts. The man just never failed to deliver! As I looked up on the large TV screen playing a loop of modern Hindi music, I saw a face that looked familiar. It was the chap I was chatting to the night before around the fire at the Eugenix farm house with who had just completed his surgery. When I returned back to the Eugenix farm house that night I met a few other patients from the UK, USA and from elsewhere. We gathered around the fire and chatted and I couldn’t help but tell them about all the horror stories that abound in the hair transplant world and just how lucky they were to have chosen Eugenix for there first procedure. A couple of these guys told me that they had considered Turkey due to location, price, etc, but had changed their minds. We later went inside and had a few games of table tennis and MORE FOOD! The night was becoming another late one so after Sudhir sprayed down my grafts and ensured that I had taken all the required meds he literally ‘tucked me into bed’ to ensure that my head was resting in the best possible way to protect the grafts.

 

I awoke to day five, the final day (or so I thought)! That morning I had decided to shave off my moustache as it was beginning to become quite itchy. Again in surgery, more grafts were scored and extracted from my chest and transplanted into the crown area. I now knew that we were so close to the finish line I could almost smell it! I told Dr Shisher that he was welcome to extract some grafts from my moustache. Dr Shisher replied no as it would be too painful and to leave it. Dr Pradeep came in not long after and saw that I had shaved off my moustache. He looked at me with a curious look on his face. He asked me why I had shaved off my ‘tash’ and I told him it was just getting too itchy. I could then hear him chatting with Dr Shisher and I could sense something new was being discussed. Dr Pradeep then told me that my moustache would make for a great filler in the crown to gain more density so it was an easy agreement for me. I wasn’t concerned about any perceived pain by this stage. I had waited for two years and travelled a long way to get the best results that I could by whatever means possible. With the vibrating pressure the anesthesia was no different to any other part of my body. It wasn’t pain that I now had to battle but mental fatigue. As Dr Pradeep and then Dr Shisher scored out and extracted beard grafts they were then placed into more premade slits in the crown. At the end of the day I was elated. We had cracked the 8,000 graft count mark! We had achieved 8,491 grafts. More than I could believe would be possible with what I had for Eugenix to work with! After a great back and arm massage from the techs I was beyond happy. After being sprayed down and cleaned up I was taken to the photo booth for the ‘after’ photos to be taken just as the ‘before’ photos  had been taken on day one prior to surgery. That night I had achieved the unachievable after 37 long years. I was elated and after another ‘HUGE MEAL’ Sudhir sprayed down my grafts, got out the meds for me and ensured that I was set up in bed in the best possible position to prevent any grafts from being dislodged. It was now no longer just grafts on top of my head to contend with. It was the over 2,500 plus grafts that now resided in my crown that required protection. That night I was physically and mentally spent.

 

The next morning yep you guessed it. Another HUGE BREAKFAST! I was up fairly early and after showering, etc, Dr Pradeep and I took a walk around the magnificent gardens of the Eugenix farm house. We chatted and joked during a lap of the farm and then Dr Pradeep said we need to go back to Eugenix for one last day! Day six! Dr Pradeep had been thinking about one of my early requests (if it was at all possible) and that was to fill in my old donor scars with hair grafts. Despite the SMP being there to cover my old donor scars, Dr Pradeep was still not content. So off we both drove again to Eugenix. In the theatre both Dr Shiser and Dr Pradeep both discussed the matter and though I couldn’t understand them, I could sense that the conversation was around donor source. The amount of grafts taken by Dr Pradeep had so far ensured that donor management was as much of a priority as was gaining full coverage. Dr Pradeep then turned to me and asked me to lower my pants!! 8-0 Both he and Dr Shisher examined my pubic hair and said it was probably the strongest donor area on my entire body!!! Who am I to argue I thought and as embarrassing as it may sound I thought well if it means we can fill the old donor scars in with grafts from ‘down stairs’ then let’s do it! From the pubic region Dr Shisher was able to harvest 232 grafts!!! I then had to have slits made in the old donor scars carried out. I had lost track of time on this sixth and final day and I was really being stretched to the end of my endurance. I was just a dead weight lying prone on the table as two techs went to work and inserted the last of the grafts into the donor scars. At some point I could feel the anesthesia starting to wear off, but I was on a mission, and I knew that I was literally at the finish line to having all my surgical goals completed. I asked one of the techs how many more grafts were their left to be placed in the donor scars? I was told 23. I was running on pre adrenaline now and rather than stop and wait to have more anesthesia injected I said just keep going. I counted every one of those pubic grafts planted into my donor scars as they went in and I felt them too! I just bit down hard as I counted them down. When the last implanter could no longer be heard I knew it was over. I wanted to get up but I was told to remain lying still on the table as they wanted to ensure that the grafts were firmly in place. It was like a huge weight of 37 years of plugs, scars, wigs and ink had finally been lifted from me. I could see my reflection in the window to my left and I could feel tears welling up. But these were not tears of sadness but tears of just sheer pure joy. Physically I felt as though I had gone 10 rounds with all my heavy weight demons and at the final bell, I had come out victorious on top. Dr Pradeep was singing, fist pumping and high fiving! The end tally was now 8,723 grafts. Anymore grafts and we would have needed a bigger white board!!

 

In closing none of this would have been able to have been made possible if it were not for the Hair Restoration Network. This forum and its members have become like a brotherhood to me. I would like to thank everyone for there love and support and I hope that my experience can in some way help others and let them know that things can be made possible by the support of others. I began this thread on stating how Eugenix made me feel like a rock star when I arrived in India. However the true rock stars are Dr Pradeep and Dr Arika, Dr Shishir, Winnie, Surya, Satyam, Kabul, Aklhilesh, Shushant, Sudhir, Mohindar, Jeldah, Yash, Pradeek, Anil, Raman, Muddha and everyone else associated with Eugenix. From my experience with Dr Pradeep all I can say is that if you had three great mates then Dr Pradeep would be two of them!

 

 

 

 

 

S P E E C H L E S S... get ready for this thread to become the most talked about thread in HT universe

Glad for you brother.. your years of patience and anguish finally paid off...

The funs starts now.. perhaps this time next year you can co-star with one of Dr pradeeps actor patients in a bollywood flick once the mane is all grown out

happy for you.. best of luck

WTFue... almost 9k graft.. wow thats amazing @Gatsby .... wish you all the best

5 minutes ago, hairlossPA said:

was your HT with H&W not good?

I am only about 6-7 months out.. So far, so good..... I was quite advanced (NW 6-7), but wanted to do in steps, instead of a bigger session (was given the option).. so did frontal and mid in the 1st HT.. will address whatever I can in the next.. Did have a video call with Dr Pradeep, he sounded quite positive for my next possible options... clinic aftercare is pretty solid too... will document results in a few months..(sorry didnt mean to hijack Gatsby post)

3 hours ago, mariner_24 said:

Yeah

I checked with the clinic and they said both products are the same (macdonalds vs xyon). I would imagine at some point macdonalds started offering the "new" formulation, and thats how they have so many patients on it. I guess i may be one of those guinea pigs, without even realizing..lol... cant recall what i paid for my macdonalds bought topical though... but there sure was a longggg waiting list (4 months), which i am told Xyon will not suffer from..

52 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

Well firstly thank you all for the very kind words, well wishes and messages. 🙏 It was great chatting with you @MazABlast night after only having arrived after a long flight at Dr Pradeep’s guesthouse straight from the airport. From the moment I landed in New Delhi I’ve been treated with kindness and nothing short of befitting of a rock star. 🤘🤣🙏 My first surgery is scheduled to commence in less than two hours. I will start a new thread on this journey with all the details of graft numbers, my experience with Dr Pradeep, Eugenix, etc. 🙏

I am sure the wait will be worth it.. i certainly didnt have the patience that you do, and went for my 1st HT with H&W last year, since travelling outside Canada was difficult.. now scheduled for my 2nd HT with Eugenix in summer of this year..

Best of luck bud..

On 1/12/2022 at 1:23 AM, mariner_24 said:

I bought it but haven't started yet. I just don't think I can afford $99/month. Plus I had side on their topical finasteride they had out before this new solution.

"Before this new solution"  was that the one they sold through Macdonalds pharmacy ?

On 11/30/2021 at 4:57 PM, dreamingofhair said:

Thanks, Yes - just got a prescription for finasteride. 

I had come to the reality that given my current stage, for optimal results regardless of procedure & surgeon - I will need to be on medication (Finasteride) for foreseeable future. So I think it is better to evaluate finasteride first and see if I can tolerate it without significant damage. If in case, I have adverse effects with finasteride - then there is not really much point in spending $$$ on surgery as the results will be relatively short lived. 

As of now I had decided to get some blood work done - Testosterone (Total & FSH), Sperm count and DHT (i read about LC/MS analysis - need to figure out where I can get it done in Canada) to establish a baseline. Get on Finasteride for ~3 months primarily to evaluate adverse affects rather than potential gains (as they are evident only after 6+ months time frame). Get my blood work done again after 75-90 days and compare against baseline. If i don't see tragic demerits - i can conclude that, I will be able to pursue Finasteride for the long run. 

Once that's established - will proceed with surgery from one of the clinics. 

Hear Hear, i don't have insane expectations - just would like to do whats best possible given circumstances. 

 

H&W against Hattingen - preference of H&W is primarily based on my geographic proximity or quality of work / results ? So far Dr. Wong's clinic had been excellent with respect to addressing my concerns - prompt and informative. I am yet to hear back from Hattingen & Eugenix

Medispa is enticing when it comes to cost as its easily palatable. I read about the 1am consultation & agree that it was very unprofessional. Kudos to the chap to have the balls to pull out at last minute. Having said that, If I am proceeding with surgery - I plan to block a weeks time and hope I could mitigate aforesaid experiences with better communication in person - may be a day or two before the surgery. 

Still contemplating whether 1 Mega - FUT + FUE (with or without BHT) makes sense or to take it slow and have smaller FUT session initially and then one FUE to close it off (along with covering the FUT scars) - all spread over few years. 

You seem to be open to both medication (Finas) and FUT..  2 things that many potential HT candidates are sometimes hesitant of... As such, I think you are giving yourself the best shot at this... I agree with the rest.. experiment with Finas first.. and then, if needed, when you are ready for HT, then go for an FUT ... that way you will probably maximize your grafts and get a lot covered in your 1st HT... you can use BHT later on as and when needed..... and if you choose FUT, then I wouldnt travel out of the country, as Dr Wong is the legend in this field.... depending on when you want to do your HT, you can even start performing scalp massages that H&W recommend on their website, as that can improve your laxity/graft availability....(H&w does not perform BHT)...  if you decide that FUT is not for you... explore Eugenix..

P.s I had an FUE with Dr Wong a little while back and met him a few weeks back for a follow up...cool guy to chat with, and has a great team.. clinic is run pretty solid.

best of luck

Hi all,

- I recently received my order of topical finasteride. Wondering what medical tests, if any, should I do before I start using finasteride, in order to compare results post usage ?

My apologies in advance if this topic has already been discussed before..

On 10/30/2021 at 4:33 AM, Gatsby said:

I have rung. Cheers. 👍

I have been trying for almost 2 months to set up a consult with Dr Pradeep, but havent had any luck. Havent heard back from abhinay or Rishabh .. busy times i guess

On 10/30/2021 at 2:15 AM, Eugenix Hair Sciences said:

Thank you so much for reaching out to us.

Do the Doctors plan on visiting North America in the near future ?

On 10/9/2021 at 7:30 PM, Gokuhairline said:

where do we get it ?

Macdonalds pharmacy, right beside H&W.. currently there is a 4.5 month wait for first order.. mine just got mailed a few days back, so waiting for it to arrive any time..  (I am a patient of Dr W, and my understanding is that only their patient get it (unless they changed that)

fyi.. I am (was) a NW6/7, and Dr W thought it will be beneficial for me... ( I also started taking oral minox post HT)

3 hours ago, Hisham said:

29 , have been on fin and min for 6 months. I very well understand that 6 months do nothing. I’ve looked into Eugenix , do you have any recommendations here in Chicago as well?

Appreciate your response 

Chicago Hair Institiue.. dr konior is probably one of the best in the business (although when I communicated with him 1 week back, he was booking for Jan 2023)...or even Dr Nadimi in the same clinic is great.. while its true that you may/can leverage beard hair, it all depends on the route you choose.

If you decide to address this (as much as possible) in one shot, then you can explore doing a mega FUT session (h&w, hattingen). Or if you dont prefer FUT, then a FUE+bht (eugenix, Bisanga, HLC, Bicer,)

If you choose to do it in multiple stages (my recommendation) then you can do just a scalp FUE/FUT in your 1st HT (which gives you the highest options of doctors for ur 1st HT) and then depending on its success, proceed with a 2nd HT in 10 to 12 months (perhaps this time going with a dr that is good with BHT)

Best of luck

On 9/21/2021 at 6:24 PM, Fredtb said:

Hello everyone,

I'm currently 29 years old. When I was 18, I started losing my hair and when I was 23 it started getting really bad. That’s when I started taking finasteride but I started seeing side effects when I was 25 years old and so I stopped. After that the hair loss expedited and in the attached photos, you can see how advanced the stage is. I contacted two doctors, Hasson and Wong and Sean Behnam, and both think that I'm not a good candidate for hair restoration saying that my final pattern of loss is aggressive and my donor reserves are limited. Has anyone else faced the same issue? What would be suggested in this case? Is it possible to use beard or body hair? If so, which doctor does that? I would appreciate any comment or help.

The most important question you need to answer is 'what are your expectations from an HT"...  if you have modest expectations, decent beard and other BHT hair, and some grafts available from.scalp, you can get some form of coverage.. if you are really eager to go down the HT route, my 2 cents will be to get as many Doctor opinions you can get.. the rejections you got may be for good reason, but alternatively you wont be the first person to have been rejected.by some doctors while others may have some.viable options for you... (if the H&W rejection was via a consultant, ask them to get a second opinion from the doctor himself.. try to send pics with longer hair and perhaps a clear statement expressing your overall expectations) personally i too got a no first.. but with clearer pics and expectations, i eventually went ahead with an HT with H&W  

8 hours ago, jim_hair said:

@InTheSix Sorry to hear you went through a similar experience.  How is everything looking for you now?  Hoping that it's back to normal or very close for you!

Yes..its mostly all back to normal. I wasnt too concerned as I have read beforehand that its quite common in the beginning. I am sure yours will be back to normal pretty soon.