duchaine

10 hours ago, Chrisno said:

 

In my view, the lower the hairline, the more actute the angle should be.

 

I agree, but to create an acute, it is mandatory to rebuild the lateral hairline (and sometimes, the temporal peaks).
That is quite risky, because that area is the most difficult to recreate and even a minor error is very visibile.
This is why I was asking if the other option is ok.

frontal hairline angles are something between 25 and 15°.
Lateral hairline angles should be 15-5°.
The directions of the hair should be like int he pic I attach.
From what I see, your surgeon didn't respect this rules so I suppose that just adding grafts can't help.

a. the front-temporal angle

When designing the hairline, the position and shape of the temple hair must always be considered. The temporal angle represents the “unzipping” of the hairline and the temple and should exhibit an angle in which the temple and the hairline roughly match in shape and in angle. This is why a “toupee” or a hair system can at times be easily spotted as unnatural. If the toupee extends forward without temple hair that matches it, it creates what is known as a “lid effect” and thereby may appear unnatural. The temple to hairline angle should closely match. If someone wears a hat to camouflage one’s baldness, all you have to do is look at the degree of temple recession to estimate how much loss that person has centrally along the hairline. When designing a hairline, always respect the relative position and shape of the temples.

b. acute angle

According to all the text-books I read, the front temporal angle is an ACUTE angle.
The two arms of the angle (the frontal-hairline and the lateral hairline) create an acute angle (fig. 1)


c. the hairline design

I saw there are two ways create the "acute angle".
The first: just draw two lines and create the acute angle. In this case, the surgeon needs to bring forward the lateral hairline (fig.2)
The other one is:draw 3 lines. The lateral hairline is broken down in 2 lines. The first crates a 90° angle with the frontal hairline and the other one (the lower part) creat an acute angle with the frontal hairline (fig. 3)
The good part of this solution is that the surgeon doesn't need to rebuild the lateral hairline/frontotemporal peaks


4. my question
given that the first solution is 100% correct, is the second anatomically wrong?

 

Is that the natural shape of your hairline?

I have the double/triple of his hair and the freitas suggested 2000 FU.
Wonder why!
 

19 hours ago, yatite said:

Hi, 

I've got a hair transplant at Hermest in Istanbul 2.5 weeks ago.

Before going to Turkey, I sent pictures and they said they would transplant 2500 to 3500 graphs, but for some reason, they ended up transplanting 4700.

It's now been 17 days since the operation and the donor area seems very thin.  I'm wondering if it's too early to know if they over harvested or if it will look normal eventually.

The hermest person following up with me on whatsapp says it's normal to look like this and that it will go away, but I have trouble believing him

 I saw this kind of condition several times.
Turkish hair mills have a big market in Italy.
From my experience, you will improve but some scars will be visible forever.
 

1 hour ago, Belve said:

you commented again on this thread though, because I agreed with @duchaine calling you the most unethical, most moronic and most stupid member he has ever met on this forum..seems like other members of this community have understood your dirty role here and have the worst opinion about you too…

I read several posts of yours. You were supporting clinics there are mutually competitive...So, that means that none of them is paying you.
Let me guess.. the Turkish government is paying you!
 

2 hours ago, Belve said:

You are a paid troll. Tell your boss to give you good salary for the 4 months of  constantly attacking the clinics that he told you to do so. 

Hi Belve, my 2 cents tip is stop to argue with this guy.
He is the most moronic and unehtical person I have ever met on this board.
From my personal experience, I never met a such stupid person before: he cut my statements to say that I was contradicting myself. But the statement he was cutting was there and everybody could read it! Can you image someone  so stupid and dishonest at the same time? 

This thread says everything.
 

4 hours ago, Otis james said:

Am I the only one who thinks Dr Bicers results are poorly documented? Fair enough, I’ve only looked on Instagram, but the images aren’t detailed at all, compared to Pinto, Fuegenix, De Freitas etc… 

I searched in many forums and I the are different reports. I didn't love the end results.

26 minutes ago, Youth_Again said:

maybe we should do both!

like for football they have those golden boy awards 🤣

For me it is really hard to find parameters to say who is the best.
A 2000 UF hairline, where the doctor gets the best natural result possibile for an original NW 2-3 is it better than a 10.000 FU zarev HT for a NW 7?

@Melvin- Admin
Considering that lighting is everything for my crown, what do you think is better in my case: tricopigmentation or hair fibers?
Don't care to cover 100%, just avoid to appear bald and old under wrong lightings. Natural effect is more in important than coverage.

24 minutes ago, Melvin- Admin said:

Yes, you have to be careful when examining photos. Here's the truth: happy patients share their pictures from the best angles. Unhappy patients share their patients from the worst angles. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

 

My fault, I forgot that you opened a specific thread.
When I took the pics, I was so surprised to see what a difference can make just a 45° rotation!

Only 12 months old or even "promising" HT, that people got in the last 2-3-4 months?

same room, same natural lighting, the pics are taken 1 minute apart.
I just rotated 45°

I think the frontal hairline is too wide.
Do you have any pic with the hairline design?

Both or them are nice and kind. Bicer is one of the most ethical person I met in this indutry.
Anyway, I decided not to go with cutodio, because I found only 1 report.
I didn't go with Bicer because I don't like the results I saw!

11 hours ago, araniwala said:

Looking forward to your feedback on this doctor! I am also in contact

Congratulations!
Great HT and great report!
Can you show the numbers for the temporal hairline? Thank you!

On 11/30/2023 at 4:57 PM, GeneralNorwood said:

 

Wow, just terrible work. Why the hell they didn't extract this grafts

 

And this white hole(in blue circle) between temple points and hairline, wtf is this. Also fronto-temporal angle is obtuse.

 

 

The doctor that led your surgery, really needs to see this video : 

 

 

I don't think it is obtuse.
the arms of the angle are the lateral hairline and the frontal hairline. the angle that you create needs to be acute but that doesn't mean that the connection point between Arms need to be acute too.

I am looking for my new hairline, so at the moment I spend hour studying other's HLs...

If I was De Freitas, I would have placed the FTA a little bit more internal 

On 5/19/2023 at 1:46 PM, mr_peanutbutter said:

is it even worth it to get ht for 1 cm?

yes!!!!

20 hours ago, mrmajified said:

I will see how the end result looks, then decide if I want to fill in the front a bit. I think it looks like a natural NW2 now, which while isn't perfect, is far better than where I was at. If I can keep most of my native hair going forward, I believe I'll age gracefully with what I've got.

hairline is NW2/3
Temporal peak are NW -3 lol

4 minutes ago, Aussie T said:

Is it good if every five day I do the following at night before bed: I wash my hair with Nizoral 2% , apply minoxidil 5% , do 10 mins dermapen , apply minoxidil 5%, go to sleep 

Great. Hope you will enjoy the trip...when the results start to come, every sacrifice becomes a pleasure!

7 minutes ago, Aussie T said:

Thank you what pen do you have?

do you use cartridges with 11 / 16/ / 24 /36 /42 / or nano? 

7 needles.
When I use the ones with more needles, I press 3 times only.

3 minutes ago, Aussie T said:

I have bought a Dr Pen M8 

 

where could I find info about 

 

- how to do it (for how long, etc) 

- how often 

- what time of the day (eg before or after minoxidil) 

- what length of needles 

At the moment, I am doing 1mm every five days.
I use some minot before (because it makes easier to microneed) and some minox after.
Tipically, it takes 10/15 min for the whole head (temporal peaks included). I "push" the needles 4 times and then go another post (it is hard for me to explain because English it not my first lenguage)

All that I said I do is the result of years of researches.
I can't suggest anything to read or watch.... because you should spend years studying like I did

2 hours ago, Moshico18 said:

The names you mentioned are better than HLC - to be honest what bothers me about HLC is that I don't know which doctor specializes in both beard and hair. I want precise works and as natural as possible. I thought about Ferduni because he has very natural works but it is very difficult to get him and his waiting time is around a year and a half...

I don't like the "who's the better" game. I think HLC is not the best FOR YOUR CASE. Same thing for some minor clinics in Spain, that are good for people that just want to add some hair on their scalp. 
In your case, because you have hair, you need an artist.
All the names that I gave you are tried and true but have very long waiting list.