HLPToronto

products : minox, finas, biotin, baby shampoo, baby oil or coconut oil 

diet - eggs, lots of protein rich supplements you can also take - multivitamins, vitamin d, eggs, chicken, fish, super foods like avocado, walnut, othrer dry fruits, whey protein, work out, blood circulation, lots of water drinking, good sleep, relax your brain

no smoking  

7 hours ago, rotrichrich said:

So if we grow hair mid-length are signs of surgery become more noticeable? I like to  get a very short haircut (military to hide temples) and then keep growing hair until its very long. Then cut again and repeat cycle. I like to experience all hair lengths. So that got me a bit worried, as I believed hair transplant is going to help me stop worrying constantly about how my hair looks...

nothing to worry, i guess you are talking about your overall hair style ( primarily front)

what i am referring to : is the least significant area ( donor ) but still its important area to be taken care of 

7 hours ago, rotrichrich said:

7 hours ago, rotrichrich said:

if we grow hair mid-length are signs of surgery become more noticeable?

 

IMHO, yes 

you can test it yourself by taking few high resolution pics from top, sides, under sunlight etc all normal circumstances and mid length somehow can easily expose some signs especially from the donor area

3000 plus cylindrical shaped holes are extracted from donor, what do you expect - zero signs, 

but when hair are  kept longer, they tend to overlap the ones below so it gives a dense look obviously especially after shampoo and blowdrying 

or if buzz cut around donor area and keep growing on the top ( disconnected undercut hairstyle which is in fashion today), it can look really good... tiny white spots are not actually noticeable that much 

but mid length in most cases, shows some very small gaps between bunch of hair patches as few areas are cleaned up forever lol... nothing is ever growing there again 

41 minutes ago, rotrichrich said:

Why is that? Why we can't have anything in between?

Well, this  is based on my research 

if we want to look good/normal without anyone noticing any minor detail that hT was being done on us....

either keep hairs very long or cut them very very short  - almost shaven 

i am choosing with the first option and growing them now onwards

AFTER FUE HT - WE HAVE ONLY 2 OPTIONS:

either very short - complete buzz on the sides 

or relatively very long -

there is nothing in between - and yes, it applies to both recipient and donor areas 

I also tried once when I was at the airport using my phone, couldn't figure it out

Dr Rahal in ottawa is good, or Hasson and wong in western canada - both reputed but its all personal luck as even reputed clinics produced great, good, average, bad results. 

5 hours ago, logansays said:

since Bhatti had used 500+ beard grafts the last time around and they grew well,

after few months, did you notice small white dots around the beard donor area. When will this heal completely ? 

is it better to keep that donor area cleanly shaven or keep beard longer based on your experience 

23 hours ago, Rolandas said:

While all ideas makes sense, in the end it's extremely difficult to follow that massage regiment. He says regrowth starts at/around 6 month mark, before that don't expect anything.

good info, thanks for sharing ! It seems logical and oil massage/hand massage is a time tested formula, definitely helps 

On 8/9/2019 at 3:16 PM, Lennney said:

. If you've noticed, buying fenugreek and tribulus is cheap as hell, but costs like $30+ for a 30 day supply with nugenix or whoever. They kill you with the convenience fee.

agreed, btw thanks for additional info 

1 hour ago, Lennney said:

, 2x [day] fenugreek, 2x ginseng, 2x tribulus), so another pill won't be a deal breaker for me. I bought a pill organizer on Amazon for a dollar or something

now  I am intrigued what are these secret tablets for ? never heard of tribulus... 

I need that pill organizer too , will buy 

Great, good luck with this final step towards the crown

I like how they drew crowns natural hair design  with a marker in the first pic moving all upwards 

how about you frontal hairline, is everything fixed on session 2 with Dr Bhatti around that area 

1 hour ago, Rolandas said:

I've read a ebook from Rob English about dutamesce massage (vigorous scalp massage) and done it myself for 6 months straight. It stopped my hair loss

thanks for the info, i will research on this . 

were you using any oils like castor , coconut or olive oil  or simply massaging with bare hands 

5 hours ago, Lennney said:

You look 10-15 years younger. Of course you could have shaved it and resigned to hair loss, but choosing to keep a hairstyle with Bhatti's help was a great decision. Your results are nothing short of incredible. Awesome stuff, glad to have seen the transformation!

Thanks for your continued support and guidance 

5 hours ago, Lennney said:

I might legit start using that coconut oil! Haha! 

 

I have dandruff issue on scalp since childhood, it also helps clear that , 

More over i think its killing 2 birds with one stone - whenever we massage minoxi, then coconut oil, then rice water, then baby shampoo.... a few times a day, we end up massaging our scalp.

Whether these liquids do anything or not lol that's a mystery but i think running fingers for each of those 10 min sessions, helps circulating scalp skin for blood flow quite a few times a day each day over and over again, i think that helps more than oil, minoxidil as that is the by product of this entire process but an effective one

5 hours ago, Lennney said:

FA - Folic acid. It's another B vitamin like biotin. Why the hell did they name like 6 vitamins B? C'mon.

FA and biotin 5g&5g make up the tinfal we take. I was curious, at dosage, but like I said earlier, research showed positive results from .8g of FA. I think I'll just do 1.6g and call it good. 

So we are taking a combination of both in one pill. I think we should continue taking 2in1 pill then. 

I hate too many tablets a day, if combo is available why to buy both separately  ?   

thanks Lennney 

Thanks everyone for your continued support and best wishes ( not for me alone but for each other on this incredibly supportive forum ) 

it definitely needs some motivation to go ahead, book/select a doctor and get this thing done. I now feel my life is changing slowly onwards.....  and today i would like to pass on my sincere thanks to Shera who pushed me to make this decision. 

A few words: I was always scared of brain surgery lol ...... so the core decision to go or a no go was the key element, results, growth comes afterwards..... i was always contemplating, for any of those who're on the fence for a very long time.....  find a client rep like this man who continues to support me , is in touch with me till this day. He never acted like a client rep, instead a friend, a brother,  provided honest advise, said keep expectations low, i am not in 20s anymore, rather hitting 40s soon and really pushed me to go for it ( not for the sale, but for the sake of mental health/life ) I know its too early for me to complete say thank you to darling buds team but overall, if it wasn't for Shera, i would've never even continued with the next step. Himself being a patient also, he showed me the entire roadmap and it helped me to relax a bit. Now, i am happy the deed was done so HT itself as a decision is truly life changing 

I also would like to thank this forum, moderators and everyone else contributing.....  

In most cases, it starts from 4-6 month timeline but thickening, growing in length might take upto 18 months

Its actually tough for all baby hairs to grow upto 6-8 inches so early... it requires a lot of hard work and patience. 

Keep in mind - Doctors play 70% of the part, 30% is to be played by each patient. 

yes, this is normal and inf act a good sign that things are working in positive direction

new hair, stronger ones will push older one out and roots will always be there... its just outer piece falling out

good luck with your growth 

Just Looking at pre HT pics  today ( taken by Dr Bhatti using his high resolution camera right before the surgery)  and now at 4.5 months,

I  feel very much satisfied with my decision today to go ahead with HT, getting in touch with Shera and selected Dr Bhatti

It was horrible before lol... can't imagine how /why I was living like that for a very long time 

5 hours ago, Lennney said:

"nutricost 10,000mcg 240 pill"

Thanks, I will check it out as well. For biotin, its lots of brands on amazon - all looks promising lol 

5 hours ago, Lennney said:

nature's bounty 800mcg 250 pills

what is FA ?  what are these for.... 

5 hours ago, Lennney said:

Very good stuff! Happy to see your results! Looks natural and full.

Thanks Lennney, following your footsteps just 2 months behind

Have you solidified your search for long term Biotin brand yet ? Please suggest as my minox, finastride and biotin meds will need  re stocking soon 

4.5 month, this is under extreme sunlight, nothing at all - just normal hair but hair gets mushy under tight cap.... 

4.5 month, this is normal, no oil at all 

for comparison, 4.5 month pic with deep coconut oil massage, 2 days no water on hair ( i avoid shampoo, hairwash daily now) lots of oil here, it was dripping for the 1st hour makes hair look thin  with oily hair obviously

12 hours ago, LeftHook said:

I have to say though, when I saw your one month photo I was taken aback a little with the extent of what looked like shock loss to native hairs... but after scrolling down and seeing the 3 month photos, the smile came back even quicker than it had left. It just shows what's possible when a master of the art has done their work well, and when the patient has followed instructions to the letter and maintained a positive and powerful mindset. When it gets to the 12-18 month mark, and the hairs mature and the density builds up, I think your results could be one of those that others consider to be miraculous. It's going to be awesome!

@LeftHookYour best wishes are  much appreciated and thanks for the positive feedback regarding my journey so far

Sharing my 4.5 month pics below - clicked today, few taken in my car, few at home  its not even six months but I am  satisfied with these pics Please note:  I used baby shampoo, then I blow dry using high heat  and sprinkled just a bit of toppik ONLY around the crown area :) 

Frontal hairline, mid vertex is all natural as I hate if others  notice any dark concealer in those areas,   its quite evident for naked eyes easily.  Another reason is that I strongly feel in 4.5 months, my frontal section doesn't need any type of concealer whatsoever at all now and its getting thick by the day... its looks decent enough that at work, tons of people mentioned good words about my hair today, especially thicker, natural hairline and no scalp visibility as before ( it was horrible as NW grade 5 A )

I am heavily using  warm coconut oil, deeply massaging, leaving overnight and also using rice water spray ( ancient Chinese/Asian technique )  for faster, stronger growth..... I hope in the next few months - I am done with  Toppik once for all. 

Pics were taken during the day , it was a good sunny day.... Your expert thoughts please ? Because only 2nd pair of eyes reflect true picture in these cases