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1 hour ago, Lennney said:
So, this is my update at the 75 days post-op. I feel like the growth is pretty good for this point in time. I'll try to update every 15 days or so.
Thanks Lennney ..... For sharing your story with Darling buds and for providing updates with pictures periodically.
Just so you know, I read your review also before deciding to book with Darling buds (18th March 2019).
Let's follow each others progress as we are one of the few 2019 reviewers/patients from Darling buds ( rest is history lol )
good luck with your results.
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On 3/18/2019 at 4:46 AM, Jhonny said:
@HLPToronto mate I love your topic and every single word you said reflects 100% my thoughts!
I am extremely keen to see you how you go, your post-op feedback will play a very important role on my decision. Dr.Bhatti is on my top 5 list at the moment, on my opinion his only downside is density at the moment and since it is one of your concerns too I am sure you'll address it to the Dr and get a professional reply/outcome.
I wish you all the very best for your today's surgery and we will all be waiting to hear back from you!
Hi Jhonny, my Day 4 after surgery in India , flying back tomorrow.
I will provide a detailed post - op, pre op and during op feedback for all the folks who are on the fence just like I was before I met Dr. Bhatti.
At a high level, I felt no pain , no swelling such a well oiled machinery run by Darling buds, amazing staff, highly skilled nurses, courteous drivers, personal attention from Dr. Bhatti whether it's day 0 , day 1, day 2 , 3 or day 4. Patient rep Shera is always there for me. My skepticism faded away since I've lived the entire experience first hand now and i am in a position to guide you if you have any concerns/doubts about Darling buds or Shera could be your man ( patient rep)
I 'm very much satisfied. Yes, Dr. Bhatti assured me dense results, hairline was built naturally, tried to share few pics but couldn't upload for some reason.
Thank you for the best wishes, we all are in the same boat my friend - need to get this done right for our heads
I am leaving tomorrow with a smile on my face and positive that I should be able to achieve the best possible results in next 6 months .
Worth mentioning -- Clinic's post op care procedure is top notch, detailed and so easy to follow
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On 3/16/2019 at 7:03 PM, Shera said:
Well, that's a bit earlier than expected, usually the haters at least wait to see the surgery pics.
As you advised, Ignorance is a bliss. I will be posting my surgery pics that was "painless" for the community very soon (as some were waiting anxiously for an update). Wrapping up my India trip, overall leaving very satisfied with my decision
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On 3/16/2019 at 3:46 PM, Baldjooey said:
@HLPToronto You don't think so Dr. Bhatti charge you more, usually they charge approx. 0.85 per graft, you can negotiate with Dr. In that much of amount i.e. 9000 CAD you will go with another doctor in USA with higher rate of growth, When I am also looking for surgeon someone suggest me to with that Dr. Bhatti but I have seen bad results of that Dr. then I changed my mind.
Think Twice Again.
Best of Luck
Hold your horses my friend, my detailed research and extra long review should suffice in explaining that I've revisited every pros and cons, cost and results and more importantly, I can officially sign off now that Dr. Bhatti was a solid choice that I MADE SINCE IT'S DAY 4 AFTER MY OPERATION IN INDIA, I am flying back to Canada tomorrow and will write a detailed report.
Regarding 0.85 per graft, its clearly advertised on his website on what basis you will get that rate.
I wanted only 18th March and got a decent rate from Dr Bhatti / Shera so i 'm more than happy price-wise ( thanks for your concerns) Ideally its 1.50 USD for the date of your choosing - just FYI my friend
1.50 USD is also the best deal out there globally ( whether India, america, Canada, Europe) that Dr. Bhatti offers .
Find me one with this price but make sure he's recommended on this forum/by top mentors. I bet you can't
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8 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:
Hey Guys,
I don't know if you guys heard about this sad story, but a 43 year old man passed away last week after having a hair transplant. The man was from India and had the surgery performed in Mumbai. It's a sad story, reports have come out that the family is blaming it on the doctor, but there is no official cause of death as of yet.
It's scary !
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12 hours ago, motobecane said:
Good luck @HLPToronto! Thanks for starting this thread AND for sharing your check-list, so, so, so valuable
Thanks for the good wishes motobecane ! Will keep you guys posted
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12 hours ago, Shera said:
HLPToronto,
Just wanted to add a thanks for your detailed reasoning in choosing Dr Bhatti.
I'm looking forward to my continued involvement in your journey, I think I'm more excited than you!
Thanks Shera for the support and guidance!
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49 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:
I really don’t think so. I’ve never seen any case where less than 1,000 grafts made a significant difference. I would wait until the hairline and midscalp is done and then focus entirely on the crown if your donor permits it.
My assumption got build watching this video from a Reputed doctor/HT mentor but it makes sense what you are recommending me to focus upon first :
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4 hours ago, bonkling said:
Hi HLP,
Great write-up, and solid reasoning!
I just came from my post regarding the DHT methods. Seems like you made a really solid choice.
That mid-surgery payment seems extremely troubling, and very strange, if it is true.
I was looking to consult with Eugenix/Dr. Sethi, but I should probably do a deeper dive into client testimonials.
Best of luck mate, really hope it works out for you
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To add: a wise member once said : it's not proven how they could adjust all singles, doubles, trips with different diameter sizes into the same choi pen ( width wise ) . It's a grey area with not much clarity yet.
Hence my decision to go with FUE
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29 minutes ago, bonkling said:
Hi HLP,
Great write-up, and solid reasoning!
I just came from my post regarding the DHT methods. Seems like you made a really solid choice.
That mid-surgery payment seems extremely troubling, and very strange, if it is true.
I was looking to consult with Eugenix/Dr. Sethi, but I should probably do a deeper dive into client testimonials.
Best of luck mate, really hope it works out for you
Also, that choi pen for DHT when inserted will just do it in one shot which could be great or disastrous
As it could either insert the graft too deep or leave it slightly above the surface which could never get connected to your nervous system and falls out shortly afterwards since there is not much manual control or intervention per graft in DHT. You move to the next one. One shot and move on. Like a staple punch on a piece of paper.
Tradition FUE uses 2 hands and insert with some precision/strength to make sure it goes deep in there.
My opinion but I could be wrong here
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20 minutes ago, bonkling said:
Hi HLP,
Great write-up, and solid reasoning!
I just came from my post regarding the DHT methods. Seems like you made a really solid choice.
That mid-surgery payment seems extremely troubling, and very strange, if it is true.
I was looking to consult with Eugenix/Dr. Sethi, but I should probably do a deeper dive into client testimonials.
Best of luck mate, really hope it works out for you
Thank you Bonkling
For us patients, the hardest decision which consumes the most time is to decide which doctor to select/trust/ be hopeful with/affordable/reputed/ethical/experienced. This is such a cumbersome task ( mentally ) for most patients
Good Luck in your search, I feel if done right - Traditional FUE could provide better results than DHI ( if not done right)
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1 hour ago, Melvin-Moderator said:
In my opinion, I would not touch the crown. 750 grafts will not make a difference. I would concentrate around 2,000 grafts and rebuilding the hairline first. Once you have the hairline, then do the midscalp and then do the crown last. You want to make sure you have enough grafts to adequately work those to areas that are the most important.
Also I heard that if trips and quads ( if any ) as per my luck and doctor's hard work using microscopic lenses are kept especially for the crown area, then 750 grafts could make some difference.
750 x 3 = 2250 new hair which will blend with my existing few hundred hairs on the crown to give some significant improvement ( I know I am talking in my dream world LOL )
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1 hour ago, Melvin-Moderator said:
In my opinion, I would not touch the crown. 750 grafts will not make a difference. I would concentrate around 2,000 grafts and rebuilding the hairline first. Once you have the hairline, then do the midscalp and then do the crown last. You want to make sure you have enough grafts to adequately work those to areas that are the most important.
Makes sense but I am hoping there is some improvement on Crown also after my surgery ( at least better than how it looks today)
Why : "Because a thick hairline and mid scalp full of hair and no hair at all on the crown screams HT " as someone said wisely.
Its an extremely delicate balance with uniform distribution
but thank you for being the 2nd pair of eyes on my condition.
I will provide a breakdown once things are done !
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5 minutes ago, paddyirishman said:
BEST OF LUCK HLPTORONTO. ITS A BIG FLIGHT FOR YOU. LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH DR.BHATTI. KEEP US UPDATED PLEASE
......ALL THE BEST .....
........PADDY.......
Thank you Paddyirishman !
I am collecting all "the good lucks" in this world and the " courage" to get this done
I will keep you guys updated with my results
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Hi Kvn,
There is not a single reputed HT surgeon in this world whose results are consistent ( Dr. Rahal Included).
Reason: There are so many variables that act as a huge dependency for each patient's results to be successful such as:
- Hair/Graft quality and how many doubles, triples, quads you naturally are gifted with
- Are you willing to religiously take all meds, Finas, Rogaine, Dermarolling, exercise, strict diet , Yoga and .............. so on
- Your body's immunity to recover from any trauma, natural health and recovery factors
- Your stress levels, hormones, genetic condition , sleep patterns
- your luck with the surgery - like any surgery, its always the " luck factor" that's extremely important for a great result. also Note: 70% is doctors skills but 30% is patients own drive over the next few years to achieve the best results. some would say its 60/40 ratio . No doctor is a magician who will give you the best result within a single day operating on it, its your head, hair, hard work for life
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20 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:
It looks solid enough however, looks like you have fine hair. Fine hair has it’s pros and cons like anything. The pro is hairlines look really natural. The con is it takes more hair to create visual density.
Also, what's your recommendation for my breakdown of 3500 grafts on the entire region :
1500 to solidify my hairline which should be half moon straight shaped ( I guess no need to lower it down )
500 on temples
750 - mid scalp
750 - crown
or should I request Dr. Bhatti to insert more than 1500 on my hairline alone ?
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14 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:
It looks solid enough however, looks like you have fine hair. Fine hair has it’s pros and cons like anything. The pro is hairlines look really natural. The con is it takes more hair to create visual density.
Agreed ! If Hairline look really natural ( which I haven't lost completely ) I would be a happy camper
As implanted grafts should nicely blend in with my existing hairline grafts; it should produce some natural thick results.
Regarding overall density, now I see why every clinic quoted me to get more than 3000 Grafts . Thanks Melvin !
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22 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:
You are a norwood 6 diffused thinner. The entire top scalp is going to be bald eventually. It’s hard to hear, but it’s the truth. Can you post a picture of your donor?
Oops ! Thanks for the honest feedback Melvin-Moderator. Much appreciated !!!
I always thought today I am NW 3 or 4 going towards NW 6 eventually in the next 10 years as I thought NW 6 means its completely bald in the center ( not a single hair alive)
- Now, I think my donor area is solid but again correct me if need be ( some pics below)
- Also, do you think 3500 FUE grafts should give me good density if I take all meds religiously, exercise, strict diet, blood circulation, Derma rolling after the procedure ?
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Hi Petroholic,
Thanks for sharing your story, I am also going to see Dr. Bhatti next week for my surgery.
Any updates on your road to recovery, new pics ? if you don't mind sharing please. Here's my post :
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On 12/27/2017 at 1:49 AM, Arteum said:
I’m 30 yo male from Australia. I noticed that I’ve started losing hair in my late teens. Just before the procedure I had type 3 MPB (as estimated by Dr Bhatti). I was looking for a solution to this problem and the only permanent one appeared to be HT. After reading to this forum for some time I shortlisted a couple of Drs and finally decided to proceed with Dr Bhatti.
The procedure was scheduled on 19th of December, Tuesday. I decided to get to Chandigarh a couple of days earlier, on Saturday - to have some time to cope with a jet lag and be fresh for the procedure. I booked the flights to Delhi and from Delhi to Chandigarh. Unfortunately, my flight to Delhi was delayed by around 1.5 hours and so I was late for my flight to Chandigarh. After collecting my baggage, I called the clinic. Although I bought an Indian sim-card I had to use a payphone because sim-cards in India (I checked Vodafone and Airtel) are activated only after 4 hours from purchase. The clinic staff advised to take taxi. It took 6 hours to get to the Chandigarh by taxi. Mainly it was because of the terrible traffic in Delhi (it took us 1.5 hours to leave Delhi). Well, it was a good opportunity to have a closer look on India.
I lived in a hotel The Gaur (sector 43) which was recommended by Dr Bhatti. In general, the hotel was ok. I had a comfortable bed and big tv, shower and toilet were clean. It was quiet during the nights so I had some good sleep before and after the procedure. The hotel restaurant looked nice and I enjoyed the food. The hotel is located quite close to sector 35 market where I found KFC, Dominos and McDonalds. I also visited a nice Indian restaurant called Oven Fresh (it’s close to KFC).
On Monday, one day before the procedure the Darling Buds driver took me to the clinic and I had a short consultation with Dr Bhatti. The Dr drew the hairline and estimated that approximately 2800 grafts would be needed for the procedure. He was quite friendly. I was also given some medication to take that evening. Next day, the driver took me to the clinic again. We arrived just after 9am. Dr Bhatti shaved my hair and drew the final hairline. After checking it in the mirror I told Dr that the hairline is a bit asymmetrical (the right side is higher than the left one) and so Dr Bhatti drew another line on top of the old one to make it symmetrical. Then, I had an injection of the antibiotic into my hand vein and after short waiting the procedure had started.
I was asked to lie down on my stomach and Dr Bhatti injected anaesthetic into the donor area. It felt like somebody is pushing needles into my head but it was the only painful part of the procedure. Then I remember getting a bit dizzy and harvesting of the donor area after which I was asked to turn and lie on my back. The rest is a blur. I just remember opening my eyes, the staff asked if I need anything - I asked for water (I was terribly thirsty). After some time one of the assistants said that the procedure was finished. It was like waking up from the dream. Staff helped me to walk to the room where I could change my clothes as I was still dizzy. I checked the time - it was already past 5pm (around 7 hours had passed from the start of the procedure). For me it was like 1 hour. 2843 grafts were planted. After changing my clothes and short waiting I received some medication and the driver took me back to the hotel. In the car I recovered from the dizziness so once in the hotel room I started to look in the mirror. What I noticed was that the hairline was asymmetrical in the same way as was original hairline drawn by Dr Bhatti. In the mirror, the right part of the hairline was noticeably higher. I called the clinic and expressed my concerns. The staff said that I have consultation with Dr Bhatti scheduled for the morning so I can discuss it with him. As I had only one full day left in Chandigarh, I sent email to Dr Bhatti saying that the hairline is asymmetrical and I would like the it to be corrected at my cost and explained that I have only one full day left. The Dr replied and agreed to correct it.
Next morning, once in the clinic my hair was cleaned by staff and one of the assistants asked me to draw the hairline for the correction. I drew the hairline - lowered the right side. Then Dr Bhatti came in. Now, he was negative about having to correct the hairline arguing that the hairline is uneven due to uneven swelling and that correction can cause bleeding and additional swelling from the existing grafts. I was 100% sure that the hairline was wrong and I was not happy with it so I insisted. Dr Bhatti then agreed and asked me to sign a sort of disclaimer (a note saying that he was against the follow-up procedure and its possible negative effects for which I will be responsible). In the end, there was no bleeding and I haven’t noticed any additional swelling caused by the follow-up procedure; also I’m happy with the form of the corrected hairline so that turned out to be the right decision.
The follow-up procedure was quite short. I haven’t received that much of anaesthetic so I was fully conscious. I can confirm that all the parts of the procedure except for planting were performed by Dr Bhatti personally. It took 103 grafts to correct the hairline. After this short procedure I received the details for post-op care. With the help of the clinic, I also bought Finasteride and Minoxidil for my 6-month recovery period and the driver took me back to the hotel.
The final count of grafts is 2946:
Singles 564 (475 + 89)
Doubles 2061 (2047 + 14)
Triples 321
I also have apr. 1400 grafts left for future procedure if needed.
Next day, the driver from the clinic took me to the airport. And again there was a problem with flights. This time, my flight to Delhi was cancelled because of the fog. So I missed my flight from Delhi to Australia. After collecting my baggage and receiving some documents for refund I booked another flight to Delhi for the next morning. Then I called the clinic. The staff from the clinic were very helpful. They arranged a driver to pick me up at the airport and take back to the hotel. The driver also helped me to top up my mobile account as I needed to make some calls overseas - to airline and travel agent trying to rebook the flight from Delhi to Australia or to get a refund. The guys from the clinic later called me to check if I had a room in the hotel. They also arranged the driver for next morning to take me to the airport. So, the clinic definitely takes a good care of their patients.
Next day’s trip was without surprised and I finally got home.
Today is 8th day after the procedure. The donor area is showing good recovery.
I’ve attached some photos. I would appreciate opinions on the density.
Thanks for reading!
thanks for the review , Do you mind sharing some recent pictures as you should be full recovered in 24 months by now.
Also, regarding asymmetrical hairline : I think most top surgeons intentionally create it as we are all naturally born with asymmetrical hairlines if you notice closely. Very few people have perfectly symmetrical hairlines in my opinion
I am also going with Dr. Bhatti next week, so just reading more reviews to pass time until next Monday
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@Bill - Managing Publisher Kindly guide me if I am a good candidate for HT with NW3 or just a diffused thinner ?
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Based on my research, DHI is definitely better than traditional FUE for many obvious reasons.
Detailed my thoughts in this post because Eugenix for DHI was my final decision before I took a U Turn and booked with Dr. Bhatti Instead for 18th March surgery :
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As per my research, Minoxidil is the best and only medicine for boosting hair growth and promoting blood circulation in your scalp area. there is no match yet for minoxidil and it should be definitely considered by all Hair loss patients ( foam is much better as no alcohol)
since 1960s when it was first discovered; there are many myths and theories about this medicine. Most people would tell you that if you stop taking it, hair loss is reverted and you loose everything. Well, its the same for proper diet, exercise - do we stop them? No, we continue but even if after 1 year , someone would like to discontinue taking minoxidil, as long as they are willing to perform some crazy exercises religiously that flows the blood to the head/hair follicles, you will never loose what you have gained with minoxil. This is the biggest myth IMO that's out there - that you've to take minoxidil for life.
Yes its better to continue it but patients need to understand, our blood takes all the nutrients to each part of our body gained from our diet. Other parts of the body are always easily accessible but going all the way to the top - our head, its extremely hard for our blood to take nutrients and reach there. Minoxidil simply acts as a steriod for those scalp nerves and boost blood circulation towards the head
Now, once you stop it - blood circulation would also decreases, hence revert back to old condition but if you replace minoxidil with some insane exercises( upside down) , that promotes blood circulation towards the head or Yoga, you shall see that there is no revert back to old condition.
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Here are some pics Pre op reflecting my Hair loss condition :
Is this NW 3 or 4 or just diffused thinning ? I am really not sure
good luck with your results.
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I would like to explore as well, I think I read somewhere that it doesn't go well with minoxidil /fin-astride for some reason but I could be wrong