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Plesse get into medicines as quick as possible n save your youth... I was a fool not to take hairloss seriously.. thinking my dad wasnt bald so I wouldn't be too.. I was of your age n It started for me n now I'm nw4 literally waiting for my hair transplant n on medc currently...

Pre op pics..

3 hours ago, JohnAC71 said:

Looking good. Direct sunlight is my mortal enemy... which Dr did you choose this time ? I ask as I’m looking at my beard next... 

I think its bhatti

6 hours ago, HelpfulFriend said:

I've been wondering this a lot lately.

We all know that in the case of a NW 6-7, there really isn't enough hair on the head to facilitate a transplant.

If someone is hypothetically a NW 3-4, but their family has an extensive history of really high Norwoods, do the members here think it's advisable to have a HT?

My thinking is this: if someone is likely to end up at that level, then a transplant is only a temporary fix, and they will (more likely) end up with not enough hair to facilitate more procedures.

Or, they will end up having to shave, only with the additional scars from FUE/FUT (FUE is not scarless, so no need to comment on whether it is or isn't).

I know medication can help, but I have spoken with people in which Finasteride simply isn't strong enough to stop their hairloss progressing.

Eager to hear everyone's thoughts. It's a tough topic, but something a lot of us just don't think about. I know myself I CHOSE not to think about it, as it stressed me a lot.

Cheers!

See if you struck with hairloss you will eventually go bald in few years.. hair transplant is considered by young people who deep inside know that they will go bald over time... but 20 to 30 is not the age to bald so any nw3 would get one with the support of medicine could retain that youthful look n spend his young age focusing on other things like work career, dating, marriage, n etc.... once a particular age is passed hair doesn't matter , although with hair transplant you could retain hair on your scalp with a bit of baldness..

I still fill your first surgery should be the biggest game changer .it should bring a solid impact  and with time a second would mainly involve filling up n covering crown..once your hairline is generated you are all set to go in life.. mega session is usually required when a patient reaches grade 6 or 7 but if someone with grade 3 or 4 gets a hair transplant and be committed to medicines then he would have achieved the ultimate goal of a hair transplant n that is density. 

So its advisable for someone to get 2 sessions in 4 to 5 years rather than 1 mega session 

6 hours ago, Looking for HT said:

Sorry about your experience mate. I have never heard a doctor saying that they fell short of grafts and left an empty patch. Pre planning done by an experienced doctor can judge the number of grafts required approximately.  Also lets say if they do fell short, a good doc would always find ways to accommodate a patient and atleast talk to them and not just leave a blank spot.

Dr Bhatti was on my list. Lucky, I didnt go ahead with him. 

Ask for some refund for the trauma you are going through and go to a different doctor. Not sure if Bhatti would even consider that .

Exactly he could have extracted grafts from elsewhere. As It was clinics mistake of overlooking it n they should have filled that spot immediately before finishing the surgery.   My question is was that  spot not noticed before touching the crown area? Did they tell you that they would finish that area after lunch n had completely forgotten. 

27 minutes ago, BeHappy said:

You haven't posted whether you requested grafts in the crown or not. That can completely change what happened. If you were seeking overall coverage with the crown included then I don't see an major issue. Your hair loss was going to take much more than 3500 grafts to complete, so it was going to take 2 hair transplants assuming the Drs limit for a session is in the 3500 range. You can elect to only do the front portion in the first one and the crown in the second one or you can try to get as much area covered in the first one and then go over the area again to thicken it all up in the second one.

As for your statement that you never see a case where Drs fall short of grafts.... well that happens a lot. There are plenty of cases where two transplants are planned (as I just mentioned) in order to get the desired result because the Dr can't do enough grafts in one transplant.

 

I agree he needed 2 sittings but there is no way one would leave that much gap between grafts n leave a spot.  Someone like bhatti could have handled this much better.. its like having a frontharline n crown, while your midsection is without hair n you rely on finasteride.  He could have covered the front first 

Dr bhatti should take responsibility for this and as I have mentioned before he should go back to his board room n rethink on his technique work n procedures .. international patients n foreigners pay a hefty sum to get their hair transplant done from bhatti n all we get in return is poor results, poor post surgery service, blackmailing by their reps. Poor results due to doctor's negligence is totally unacceptable. Bhatti needs to improve his work as he is neither offering refund nor giving free repairs.. n on top of that there is no guarantee that after second surgery you'll get the desired results. If you mess in the first surgery  it screws your chances of getting a good result in a second surgery 

Frankly speaking I can't even see any growth I mean forget about the density now I feel you'll have to comb your crown hair forward n front hair back to hide that spot. Let's be honest 3500 is quite a huge number of grafts. A surgeon could have easily covered front hairline till midscalp n you would have been very much satisfied but looking at this I feel you'll need a repair but let hope for some postive results n the next 3 months will give you a clear indication of what to expect or the outcome of this hair transplant .. and yes one more thing bhatti usually recommends finasteride for 6 months n if you have passed the 6 month phase than you'll most probably stop taking finasteride n from thereon your hairloss will progress further so idk what to say but do stay in touch with dr bhatti 

8 hours ago, Dr. Suhail Khokhar said:

Anyone use Morr F 10% or 5%? It's a topical finasteride/minoxidil combo. I can easily procure the 5% and am thinking of getting the 10%. I wanted to see if the community had any experience with either the 5% or 10%

Where can one procure the 10%?

Thank you in advance!

I have had tremendous improvement with it .my hair has improved I'm using mor f5% for last 6 months 

12 hours ago, BenChod said:

This is reality of this ridiculous clinic. 5k grafts and i had already alot of hair not like i was slick bald. This is disgraceful its messed my brain up 18 months later. Suzanna says oh why would you want to go to anothet doctor who doesnt know your case.  She said its not their policy for refunds. Well with such poor growth it should be their duty to refund me why the hellnwould i go back. You know what this feel like? It feels like uve been raped.. someones come andnfkd u up and taken 11k and got away with it! You hear me Ergodan? Because i know you and your stupid team are reading this and i am demanding a refund !and i wont stop till i do.

Half of the grafts never grew man. This is a failed surgery 

12 minutes ago, GNX1 said:

At one time Dr. Bhatti was one of the only games in town and was the only affordable option and at that time I thought he was a decent choice but as time went on his lack of skill really came to light and dozens of other HT surgeons started popping up doing far better work with way less experience and they were not spacing their grafts so far apart to look like 1990 hair plugs! He never evolved. Its a game of talent and he lacks talent.

Dr. Bhatti doesn't perform large hair transplants. Where are the 5000+ graft patients? Im still waiting for those examples! He is a cheap alternative option to great surgeons like Maras, Lorenzo, Erdogan, Nader, Bisanga, Feriduni, etc.....

U can swing on his nutz all u want but the pictures don't lie. There are ZERO examples of Erdogan performing a HT that looks like old style plugs. I can post a dozen or more examples of Bhatti and his plug like grafts. Ur his "Promoter" and I get it but the fact is his best work is average at best. Here is another example I found on page 11. I went to page 10 before. 

The "Mini-plug" look isn't appealing to ANYONE! U've been making up excuses for his poor work for years. It hasn't gotten any better and it never will. I have zero interest in this guy so I have no interest in debating how bad he is with u but I thought others should know there are far better options out there. Good luck and take care.

 

Exactly he has published some results of grade 7 patient with just the hairline n that too lacking density. I sometimes feel bhatti must be very much occupied as he has a lot of hifi clients to deal with.  To improve his work he really has to consider few things .First n foremost 

1) his techies team.. as we all know technicians play an important role n they have to be equally skillful. If something is going wrong In the hair transplant procedure then the whole team should be evaluated. That's why many bad results have popped up recently 

2) the technique he uses .He leaves a lot of gaps in between grafts. He may want to preserve grafts for future use but well hair transplant should be something impactful n change your whole look. Which many clinics are now successfully managing to give..No one has time to run every year just to get a touch up n density. Well if that's the case your scalp will be under reconstruction for the next 12 to 18 months or even more n you will need more than 2 years just to get your desirable look

I'm not here to defame him or his clinic. He is a world class surgeon n has given us some wonderful results.but justTalking on whats visible here based on patients reviews.  

On 5/19/2020 at 7:52 PM, Panamera13 said:

I have no skin in the game here @Badresults @California as I don't know any of you but I give the benefit of doubt on the results to Dr Bhatti (pending all the test results etc) and lay full 100% blame on him for the criminal harassment. As we all know, Shera is just a fall guy aka pawn.

The best way to resolve this for both parties is to give FULL refund to the patient so he can move on with life + an apology on the harassment. With that he can move on with his life and so can the doc.

If the doc doesn't agree to this, I hope the patient does file an official criminal complaint with the police. There's nothing legal/consumer court related stuff in this case...this case is about harassment and blackmail. In this scenario, Dr Bhatti will lose more patients and for overseas patients, he might be a complete no-no (I can vouch that I did look him up and will not even consider him one bit anymore).

Exactly. If that's what you can expect than no one would accept that.. the patient already has gone through a lot before hair transplant n when he finally decides to go for a hair transplant putting his hard earned money n In return he gets this poor results n on top of that faces harassment from his reps.

2 minutes ago, Badresults said:

Yes, honestly if this is only bad results, and no black mailing, I won't be going to consult legal. It's common that some surgery fails. 

I hope to get this sorted soon and then I will think about having getting my hair fixed. 

 

It really sucks brother.  We all have gone through this pain of hairloss at such a young age I know its depressing and above that the disastrous result of his surgery,  the money lost n shera's blackmailing. You have to be very strong to go through this. Please dont let any negativity lose your focus.  There are other things in life you could always develop yourself in other things In life 

5 hours ago, Badresults said:

So I would like to share my current hair transplant results with @Dr Tejinder Bhatti. This pictures is taken today. My procedure was in August 2018, so it is almost 2 years and I can say it's complete disaster. Unless any of his patient representative think otherwise, then also please let me know. With this kind of results, does anyone think going back to the same doctor is fair? And his offer was a repair of 800 grafts. How can 800 grafts fix this. The reason he mentioned 800 is because after my procedure with him in August 2018, he said only 800 grafts can be extracted from the donor area.

This is probably the worst hair transplant results I have seen in this whole forum.

 

 

To hell with the blackmailing I feel this result is a more serious issue than the shera controversy. Even a local clinic with a young dr lacking experience would deliver you a better result than this and dr bhatti on his youtube page has always criticised small local n multiple clinics with several branches and stated them as a  main cause of hair transplant failure and justifies that the he charges X3 the price of a local clinic because such small clinics possesses higher risk of failure.....You have a good donor area go get a hair transplant elsewhere 

25 minutes ago, Badresults said:

Just a question, why do patients from Eugenix have quick growth, most of their growth can be seen in 3 months and most of other clinics only see their growth after 3-4 months. What difference is this clinic doing?

Thy use a DHI technique, where grafts are directly implanted aftrr extractions. It is a more advance technique of fue

Its high time we remove bhatti from this forum we had enough of him now. And its not because of the failed results but the way he handles failed surgery and his rep threatens his patients... this is an eye opener for all international patients n those who purely believes in google reviews n his website promotion 

3 hours ago, Badresults said:

OMG @sunnybadhair I just came across your experiences post. You literally had same experience with mine with same doctor. Bad results, even with twice surgery from same doctor. Lucky I did not opt to take the repair offer from him, worst you paid for both procedure. 

And you have been threaten as well. How on earth is this doctor still practicing and doing surgeries is just WOW. If Bhatti can continue to doing hair transplant then anyone can become a hair transplant doctor.

Lets not even think about their character how they threatens and black mail the patients. Did you show the black mailing messages to Melvin?

After seeing your post n then this one. I wouldn't even consider dr bhatti even if he offers me surgery free of cost. His work n standards have fallen bigtime and its high time the admin of this network considers removing bhatti from the recommendation list. Well he has all the excuses in his bag to say when his patient has a failed surgery n shifts the entire blame on his patients 

@Bad Hair 

Well TBH what I see Is just beyond my belief. Dr bhatti Is highly regarded and is known for his honesty, hardwork and ethics. What shera did is not excusable and he should immediately be sacked from this group. First of all @Badresultsits extremely sad and heartbreaking to go through this and only someone with baldness can understand the pain and beyond that it also affected your professional life. And you could have even lost your job for that. I know it's difficult to trust on hair transplant after undergoing 2 HT failures. But still things can improve and at this time try finding a good doctor who can help you come out of this so that you move on well and focus on other things in life. 

With Dr bhatti he is one of the top 20 surgeons in the world and lets not forget he is a human too and sometimes results may not turn up as what we expected. I feel @Dr Tejinder Bhatti has changed a lot of people's life and many have treated bhatti nothing less than their lifesaver.i think we shouldn't write him off for this case n he is still someone who could deliver you results in a worst case scenario. Although leme clarify myself I'm not supporting shera's act and the way this clinic has managed this case. Things have gone personal. 

Yes unfortunately you are.. the picture you took was In the dark yet we can see bit of your scalp. Try getting In contact with a dermatologist 

However you are still young n it wont really affect you for the next 5 years but be prepared for this

1 minute ago, bruce90 said:

Yeah what you're saying is true but someone with unrealistic expectations vs someone who has a complete failure are two different things to me. I guess one of the problems is you may never know what the cause of the hair transplant failure was... I figure a lot of the times the clinic is to blame but sometimes it may be the case that the patients physiology just doesn't work in there favor.

What I tend to look at is how the clinic handles it since that may be the only thing that matters. 

Either way If I had a bad result with a clinic I definitely wouldn't use them again even if they offered me a free procedure.

But tbh looking at his results its surely the clinic to be blamed. Bearing In mind that he was taking finasteride n minoxidil. 

1 minute ago, bruce90 said:

When someone has a poor hair transplant procedure and then suddenly disappears I can't help but assume the worst. This happens all the time with a well known Canadian clinic (who I won't name). Usually I assume these clinics make some kind of agreement with the person to prevent them from posting anymore on the forums. I assume they get a refund or partial refund but have to sign a document that prevents them from sharing any information public-ally.

As bad as it though at least these clinics are offering to do something to make the patient less upset. I never understood why a clinic would rather have a patient on here destroying their reputation rather than just offering them a refund.

The problem is if they start giving refunds then every individual with less perfect hair transplant would end up claiming there money from the clinic.  I know there might be few grafts being wasted during the HT procedure but a dr should make sure the transection rate is well below 5%.

But in his case I would rather demand for refund but would never think of doing another surgery with him

5 minutes ago, bruce90 said:

If what you're saying is true then that's really messed up... 

It's almost common for patient reps to come on here and attack anyone who doesn't have a good result from their clinic so I'm not surprised to see that anymore. But if Bhatti's patient rep actually did those things then that's going way too far... that's pretty much to the point of black mailing someone.

Dr Bhatti was the first surgeon I considered doing a procedure with when I joined this forum. In hindsight I'm glad I trusted my gut and decided to take some more time in selecting a clinic. You can't be too careful these days.

Exactly I was almost getting booked with him.

@Badresults I have followed your case since last year and the moment you got vanished is when  I realized something is wrong. Fortunately you are not residing In India and therefore you can expose them.. any surgeon before doing any surgery should do a complete check of whether his patient is eligible for a hair transplant or not. Dr bhatti being one of the best Ht surgeons is very much capable to solve such cases however he's a human too n sometimes things may not go in his favour n in such cases the dr should either offer you another surgery free of cost or give you atleast 50% refund. But dragging your employer in to this mess n threatening you is not justified.. but we dont know If dr bhatti is involved in all this or it's his agent who's doing it all alone..