Shifty

I never heard of the reduction but I have been taking a collagen supplement for a few months now. From what I have read collagen supplements can take a very long time to actual show results, like up top a year.

Have you tried derma rolling the front? I think its worked wonder for me in conjunction with the other stuff.

check out the link in my signature.

I never used nizoral just an fyi. I bought it but ended up throwing it away and using the other brands. I think they main thing is, to make any type of break through, consistency. Don't wake up one day and say, "Ah forget this ill skip this today." And if you have to and its possible (like derma rolling as an example) do it the next day. The easiest things are anything you put in your mouth because they don't disrupt your day at all. Like any pill its pop and go. For me the toughest is derma because it takes me 20 minutes and hurts like fuck. But I never miss 2 times a week.

Just do this would look better

I added it! lol Also I am never dying so there's that.

"all the scars" lol

**Updated HEALTH REGIMEN ***I have added products in between i.e. supplements, shampoos, conditioners, lotions….I don’t think any of them made a noticeable enough difference for the effort for me to continue paying for them. But feel free to ask me what they were. My hair continues to grow! Every Day Green Drink: 1 cup of water / 1 scoop of greens / ¼ tsp Vit C / 1 scoop of collagen 1) Greens - https://team-isa.isagenix.com/en-us/products/vitality-well-being/individual/isagenix-organic-greens 2) Vitamin C Ascorbate Crystals https://www.vitacost.com/source-naturals-vitamin-c-sodium-ascorbate-crystals 3) Collagen - https://www.neocell.com/products/collagen-protein-peptides ** I take more vitamin C usually 3/4 tsp but if you want to clean out your gut you can go heavy. Do some research on Vit C. Vitamins - follow directions for usage daily/nightly https://team-isa.isagenix.com/en-us/products/vitality-well-being/individual/complete-essentials-daily-pack-with-isagenesis Pumpkin seed oil pills - Vitacost https://bit.ly/2WgCa7A Biotin w/ bamboo extract - Vitacost https://bit.ly/3dDbJ1T Zinc w/ copper - https://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/solaray-zinc-copper-50mg-2mg-100-capsules/so-1988 7PM Every Night: Finasteride – https://www.forhims.com/ Monday and Thursday Mornings: Dermapen A7 - https://www.drpenusa.com/ (front and temporal) Derma roller – 1.5 purchase them on Amazon (Use Amazon Smile!!!) (Crown Area) I recently bought this one, its pretty good. - https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VP4N48V/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Every Night and Morning (Except Monday and Thursday Mornings Because of Derma): Rogaine Foam 5% (crown) Spectral CBD (with nanoxidil) (front and crown) https://dslaboratories.com/products/spectral-cbd-innovative-hair-loss-treatment-with-nanoxidil-5-cbd Shampoo Mondays / Thursdays / Saturdays: Conditioner Everyday: https://hairlossdhtshampoo.com/ Rivita CBD (basically every day unless I use the above) https://dslaboratories.com/collections/mens/products/revita-cbd-purifying-shampoo Every Night 25 minutes: Laser Light – There are for sure better caps out there, I purchased this a few years ago. https://us.currentbody.com/products/igrow Every 6 Months: 30 day Cleanse: Just an ** I started doing these for health purposes and to lose a little weight, i typically lose 10-25 lbs when I do these, but I do believe they assist in keeping the functions of my body working better than not. A good example is I had a light case of Asthma When I started doing these in 2012, I have not had an attack since. I am not a doctor, and this is NOT a cure. But cleansing and intermittent fasting can help with many things. https://team-isa.isagenix.com/en-us/products/weight-loss EXERCISE AND EAT HEALTHY!!!

wont let me edit that post. Ill just repost.

Copy and pasted because right after I remembered. I also may have mentioned somewhere in here but if not I added these 2 a couple months ago. twice a day (morn/night) https://dslaboratories.com/products/spectral-cbd-innovative-hair-loss-treatment-with-nanoxidil-5-cbd I use this as regular Shampoo https://dslaboratories.com/collections/mens/products/revita-cbd-purifying-shampoo I actually forgot a couple things! morning and night Pumpkin seed oil pills - Vitacost https://bit.ly/2WgCa7A Biotin w/ bamboo extract - Vitacost https://bit.ly/3dDbJ1T Zinc w/ copper - https://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/solaray-zinc-copper-50mg-2mg-100-capsules/so-1988

dude their website looks like a 12 year old put it together lol

Maybe try a hair system? They have come a long way, plenty of great examples of them online. https://www.youtube.com/user/HairsystemsHeydecke/videos https://www.instagram.com/p/B9kphHUFSA9/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Happy Anniversary to me. Today marks exactly 2 years since starting the journey. I started with Finesteride 1mg September 26 2018. Below is taken earlier with some cbd spray in front and Minox on top so its a little wet/matted. But also gives a great view of how I have fared over the past 2 years. I combed it all in the direction I believe it naturally wants to go in as well. I started to use the derma roller lower on the hair line to see if I can activate other follicles and lower the hairline. Will be a good experiment. I started this knowingly last night. Anywho, I've been super religious since day one with everything and so far its payed off. For comparison. The first picture was taken late 2015 early 2016 and it got considerably worse in the 2 years after. The crown was already gone by that point. The next 2 years the front temples just disappeared. The red circle pic is I believe from early 2015? (maybe 14? I label my pictures by date now) when I realized spiky hair did not work anymore so I tried to grow it out. What was I thinking lol. You can actually see the progression from the 1st and second pics (reversed) ** corona virus and lockdown and a long life lol has completely made me misinterpret time, days weeks months all melt into one so even the dates I am posting might be wrong. I cant even believe I started this 2 years ago today, I had to scroll back into this thread to find out when I did. Thankfully I posted it! Someone asked me how old I was the other day and I had to think about it LOL

Well, the first six things on this list I did not use, I dont even know what Lipogaine is. lol Also I derma twice a week and havnt used a cap until recently.

I ask this question because how many people are being told there are no other alternatives than an HT when there clearly are? I was told this even after a doctor used a magnifying glass too look at my head and the follicles. I've seen some fairly terrible stories on this site over the 2 or so years I've been a member, some with some without pictures. Is what happened to me so unusual that most are willing to go under a knife instead of, and spending sometimes 10's of thousands of dollars? I thought my hair was gone for good, I was bald in certain spots for a few years. I remember the day my niece saw me bending over and started making fun of me because she noticed thinning in my crown. (kids lol I should have started that day on this journey) Its why I asked the Telogen question because the front temple areas were full on gone (with my big head it was so depressing lol) but have come back fairly decently. That picture is me, so is the below one. I may have posted both somewhere in the thread I am documenting my attempt to grow it all back. My hair is far from perfect but it continues to grow in areas i thought it would never again without a HT. A tiny bit of Toppik on the front left and crown (not a lot at all) and boom people are complimenting me on my hair every where i go. I still have a small spot on my crown that I am hyper aware of so hats are still a thing for me, but when I can I'm going to give a couple other things a try (see other thread when I do) Maybe there isnt a magic pill yet even though I'm taking it when they create it lol, but maybe there is something else?

It was my thread lol kind of why I am asking

I hear this a lot. Is there a time frame? is it case by case? Can telogen phase seem permanent? Is it complete horseshit? Here is a question. Would you think the below picture could grow hair back?

I am using minox now, I have used it before by itself and it did absolutely nothing so who knows if it is doing anything now tbh. I never had a massive shed. if you look at my post years had went by where no hair grew where now hair is growing. At what point do you say hair wont come back?

I do. same brand. I was actually thinking this morning as I took my 2 capsules if I should cut it out. Not really sure.

I get this but is it as effective and if not how large of a difference has been noted. I take regular fin now started doing every other day. But obviously the no sides or less sides is a huge selling point for the long haul especially considering I am doing every 2 days as opposed to every day. Should be noted I have been taking Fin for 2 years this month.

Can you sum this link up in a pill vs topical reply? lol

I'm going to inquire about this. Been wanting to try out the topical so I can stop taking the pill. He's in NY so this post is very valuable to me lol thanks.

I used it for 7 or 8 months months every day. Maybe its just one of those things where it works for some and not others. Not worth buying them for me. There is also extract in my shampoo so maybe that's enough.

Min isn't a dht blocker. it stimulates growth. DHT by definition can assist in regrowing hair because of their mechanism if the follicle isnt completely dead.

I took pumpkin seed oil pills for months. Did not notice anything different so i recently just stopped.