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Im on the hunt for a decently priced eyebrow transplant surgeon myself, I had a brief exchange with some California doctors who want $8-$14k which is just stupid. Would be great to find someone reasonable 

2 minutes ago, 5BetaReductase said:

I’m not an expert by any means but I would say you still have donor reserves. The next clinic would have to be cautious about harvesting from that zone however so the surrounding density evens out. I would continue to consult with others.

I’m hoping so! I’d say that particular spot is a no go zone though, my hairdresser even mentioned how thin it is in that patch. 

On 3/4/2022 at 12:13 PM, 5BetaReductase said:

Did you visit him in person for the consult? Can you share your donor pics that you sent? I believe you had a little over 3k extracted during your first surgery. I am surprised to hear you have no more donor capacity after this.

I think the issue is that they over harvested one particular area in the back. I keep it a bit longer there as it’s quite patchy otherwise 

You can see how sparse the transplanted area is, I would love to know where those 3000 grafts went, I only had my hairline lowered very slightly. 

18 hours ago, HairMe said:

Did Dr. Erdogan do your first procedure or was it done by someone else in his clinic?

He made the incisions, some of the younger techs did everything else.

17 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Dr. Bisanga is an excellent repair doc, as is Mwamba, both I believe are around 4-5 per graft. 

I’ve looked into Bisanga! Thanks I’ll check them both out

17 hours ago, JC71 said:

Agreed 👍🏽also Dr Feriduni and @DrTBarghouthi 

Thank you! 

18 hours ago, JC71 said:

I posted this on another thread earlier:

This is awesome do you have a way to send the full quality pic? 

2 hours ago, Gatsby said:

‘Affordable-ish’ has been the down fall for so many patients and if it’s the first criteria on a research list it almost always ends not only in regret but damage. Look at John’s excellent recommendations of Dr Bicer and Eugenix. Take your time and all the best. 

I just meant anything outside of USA prices, there’s no chance I’m paying $10-15 per graft lol but happy to pay more than what I paid Asmed. I’ve heard a lot about Bicer so I’ll look into her for sure. 

Any recommendations for other affordable-ish doctors that perform the entire procedure? I honestly thought I’d have some grafts left in the bank but then I never see the back of my head. I’m really disappointed after hearing that from Keser as he was the front runner for me. To know that not only did I get a terrible result but that I’m going to struggle to find someone to fix it is so depressing. 

I’ve had literally everything on my face done and not one person I’ve ever met has clocked any of it. Dunno why straight men think any male cosmetic surgery is gonna end up like Michael jackson. Come on give your head a wobble lads 😂 we are all on here getting hair surgery, what’s wrong with tweaking other bits? Why pay thousands for a nice head of hair if you’re gonna ignore your face? That Rodrigo fella has a decent mop, but all you can look at is his shocking face. Think about that lads before you judge Derek. You can fix the roof but if it’s sat on top of a shit shack, there’s no point. Not that you looked remotely bad before Derek. Just saying in general.

my advice @Der3k7 is to definitely not to get the lip lift, and to just stick with fillers. They last much longer than you think. A Doc on YouTube did an MRI and found that juvederm he administered was still there 3 years later. Not as much, but a noticeable amount. lip lift will only pull your top lip up but in my opinion, the 2/3rds bottom to top ratio looks best. I go to Louise Cunliffe for mine she’s an absolute master with a needle. Her instagram is @thelookbylouise she does men and knows how to do it without looking fake. I think lip lifts looks really obvious later on as you see the older women in LA all have it and it’s a certain look I can clock a mile off. Fillers will last ages and are cumulative so each time more will stay long term. My last top up was my first in almost 3 years and looks natural as ever.

Erdogan always quotes huge numbers over other Drs, and he has very, very little to do with the surgery as asmed has such a high amount of patients per day. Going there was one of the biggest mistakes I’ve made. Look at Dr Keser or someone like him who performs the entire procedure. I’m looking into getting my asmed job repaired sometime in the future with him. 
 

Just factor in having to go back a second time, paying for a higher amount of grafts than 99% of other clinics would quote that either A) aren’t even there or B) don’t grow. 
Avoid. Pay for an actual doctor to perform your surgery, not a group of young girls. 

Well no amount of statistics is gonna get me my lost grafts back lol all I can share is me experience and I look like shit. Congrats to those who don’t. Like I said I may be biased from my botched job, but I know more people have reached out to me with similar bad results than those who have been happy. I can only say what I see and I’d like to believe I’m being fair. 

can anyone realistically say my result was good? For the amount of grafts I had? Not even close.

I’m probably not gonna post anymore tbh. I’ve posted my final results, it’s not changed a bit in months and I’m 13 months post op. 

If people are ok going to a clinic and being 1 of 9 patients on any given day, utilizing a massive amount of grafts and still ending up with a very low yield, then using even more for a second “touch up” when half of them don’t take, have at it.

There’s only one person who benefits from having so many patients per day, each have a monster number of grafts estimated for their surgery. Hint, it isn’t you. 

I advise prospective patients to pay close attention to all the results good and bad from the last 2 years. Don’t bother looking any further back because that model no longer exists. Make your decision based on that, if the good results truly outweigh the bad, good. I personally don’t think they do after having so many people reach out to me with similar bad results. But make your own decision, look at everything you can find. 

Hope it all works out for you all!

19 hours ago, CosmoKramer said:

@nb98’s result for 7 months does look great, although I gotta slightly disagree with your numbers example, after following most all ASMED cases on here for a while now, I think it’s the reverse, more likely for every 10 good/very good/great results on this forum, there may be 1-2 mediocre/sub-par/bad, which I’m sure we all wish a great result for everyone going through such a journey, but the reality is that it’s not guaranteed.

Obviously I sound biased, but i have to say I strongly disagree. I see far more bad results lately from the clinic. Just read back through this thread, a bunch of people have chimed in with their own bad results, I think nb98 is one of the first on my thread to report a positive outcome. I guess we all have different standards and it’s subjective but when a bunch of us look to have had less than 50% growth of the grafts we paid a lot of money for, I couldn’t ever recommend this clinic to anyone in good faith.

16 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

Your concerns and those of the guys you listed are definitely valid and deserves to be resolved, even getting to the point of a successful result was a bit of an emotional” roller coaster for me so I can imagine how draining it could be for guys unhappy and with a subpar result and I definitely empathize.

It really is so emotionally draining. The fact that you have to go through months of a shaved patchy scabby head lol then waiting a year to have an awful result that makes you feel 10x worse than before you had it. Add to that dropping $10k to have it done to you. It’s abhorrent to let people go through this in the name of raking in as much money as possible. 

I understand at the end of the day it’s a business. But this is peoples lives and mental well being, no amount of money is worth jeopardizing those. Not to any decent human anyway, but hey money can make people do anything. And it’s looking more and more evident that that’s the case here. Monetary gains > peoples emotional wellbeing.

From my years of research Erdogan looked by far the best choice, literally right after all these dodgy results started coming out and it’s just my luck lol. I’m not gonna deny that there WAS a lot of good results it’s why I chose them. That just isn’t the case anymore though. Payam, myself, planetstephen, abysmo, kraistoff, der3k7, mhr84, Munich, bigben, and more are all having the same issues. Super low density for the huge amount of grafts utilized.

Look at my before pics, how on earth did I have 3000+ grafts and end up with what I have now? I’ve counted the grafts in different parts of my hairline and not a single patch has more than 25 hairs and that is the most dense parts. Literally pissed $5000 down the drain as I’ve got less than half of what I paid for sitting on my head. 

I think it would be a good idea if we had a “Asmed results” megathread, where every recent asmed patient could post a couple of pictures in decent light/quality. To have them all in one thread would be super helpful to prospective patients  I for one think it would be the most fair way to represent what to expect.

What are the recent good results? 

On 7/23/2019 at 12:23 PM, munich said:

Hey guys in 3.5 weeks I will reach my final 12 month mark and share some pictures and a final feedback with you. 

Today I tried to measure the density in the recipient area. I know it isn't a professional method, but it's still sure that the implanted density doesn't even come close to the 50 Grafts per sqm. 

In the picture I show you one of my measuring points in the left temple area. 

Exactly like mine. There’s no chance I’m wasting any more grafts with touch ups there. I already had a crazy amount for just a hairline, another 1000 would be outrageous. 

I just wish I could get some kind of refund, even partial. It’s not really feasible for me to go back for a touch up any time soon, I live California and don’t have the vacation time available. I’ve lost faith in the clinic also after seeing everyone with results like mine after 3-4K grafts for hairlines, which is baffling. Someone else mentioned it making more sense to refund than touch up since their time is obviously valuable and they could use it to slot another patient in and just give me some money back.

its a long shot I guess, but I’m really very unhappy with my result. The last pics I uploaded were at night in my bathroom, daytime is 10x worse as you can imagine. My hairs so long but I can’t have it any other way, literally have a comb over at 32...

5 minutes ago, Kraistoff said:

I find it difficult to understand how they can maintain quality . How can you review each graft on a screen like that 

Yeah like you need a magnifier to extract and implant, so how could you possibly see it through a monitor lol remember when the standard was 1-2 mid sized surgeries per day? How can anyone defend 7-9? I’d find it funny if I wasn’t walking around with a botched ht lol

8 hours ago, FarsanUk said:

So guys a while back asmed posted something on their Instagram story video which they later removed as I screen shot it and posted on here on another thread. Just to prove the potential of many surgeries they have check out that screen shot below. You can see it shows 9 surgery rooms and 7 of them are occupied at that point in time. They are all separate rooms if you zoom it says room 1 2 3 etc... 

 

Like this blows my mind...I don’t care what ANYONE says, how is this not a shameless money grab at this point? Is anyone really gonna defend 7-9 patients per day? Sorry, this is inexcusable.

6 hours ago, Jamothee said:

Sorry to hear mate, definitely a sub par result. That hairline looks quite pluggy too. Asmed is a a massive no go as far as I'm concerned. 

Wouldn't expect much from Asmed or the moderators on this forum either a it now appears that they are in cahoots and this is basically a marketing tool for the recommended surgeons. 

Yeah I agree. All one has to do is look at my thread to see how many others are dissatisfied. Pluggy, thin, huge gaps. But they’ll say it’s definitely improved, that it’s not bad and could be great with a small touch up lol. How about a transplant that doesn’t need 4000+ grafts for just a small hairline case? Cash grabbing mill, nothing more nothing less.

If a doctor wants the absolute best result for a patient, they will supervise the entire procedure beginning to end. If they wanna pop their head in for a few between 6 surgeries in a day, is anyone really going to argue that this is in the interest of the patient? If so how? 

Its not about the best results anymore. It’s not about quality, it’s about volume. Relying on their old work and peoples obliviousness. It’s so messed up. 

13 months post op. No improvement, had to grow it long to cover my hairline. As you can see, parted, pushed back. Or even slightly moved to one side shows huge bald sparse looking patches. I look worse than ever. This is under regular bulb lighting at night time. Daytime looks horrific (I’ll take more pics later). I don’t want a touch up I want my money back. It’s a failed transplant when less than half the grafts take and I look far worse off than when I started.

On 7/14/2019 at 2:37 PM, jonnyalex said:

That he'll offer to put right by having techs go wild on your head again. Not refund.

I was honest in my response to the offer of a free touch up, I just said I don’t feel confident in the clinic any more. Hoping to get at least some money back to go elsewhere and have a Dr do the procedure, not a gang of random techs. 

12 hours ago, Jamothee said:

Disappointing to hear this, I feel for got man.

Before you go to Diep I would advise doing a bit of research on his donor issues. Just want to save you further issues brother.

Tbh it may be a bit immoral but i just want his opinion on this transplant, to see what he thinks of the density etc. I haven’t booked anything yet as I feel bad wasting his time. But he’s the closest “big name” to where I live.

I got in touch with the clinic to ask about the density of the implanted area. Apparently I had 49-50 grafts per sq cm. After using a ruler and taking macro pics of my transplanted area, I was counting less than 20 in most spots. Which means less than half of the grafts took. There’s no wonder it looks like it’s does. Booking a consult with Diep when I have the time to have a professionals opinion.