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Did they even read your email? Do they know you're already 1 year post op?

The Bhatti Hairline™

Just buy generic.

This seems incredibly rare to me. It may depend on skin tone and the density of hairs you're transplanting but generally it seems any Caucasian guy getting a typical reinforcement of 2-4k grafts has significantly visible redness for months. Just blatantly obvious you've had a transplant for about 2 months

Can someone explain to me what permanent shock loss is? How does that happen? The follicle itself is destroyed or something? I understood shockloss to mean a telogen effluvium where many native hairs shed post transplant due to the trauma. But it all grows back eventually. If it doesn't then that's hair you were going to lose anyway?

I thought the average donor capacity was around 6-8k? Donor is my main concern, seen as I'm only 26 and do have a thinning crown too. I think my donor area is average. I would be much more relaxed if my crown was untouched as I understand it completely eats grafts compared to the front. I'm happy to put 3-3.5k in my frontal third as long as the area behind my temples/forelock is reinforced - I do see some guys spunking this amount of grafts in a NW2 hairline area which is a luxury I can't afford. It's my hope that this first procedure will sort my frontal third for life, is this naive? I think you're right about Erdogan being a no-brainer so I don't plan to have any in-person consults for the moment. I do keep a close eye on future treatments and believe at least one of them will come out in the next few years that would allow me to maintain my remaining hair. That's obviously a bonus though and not something I'm basing this transplant decision on - more for the future when I'm in my 30s/40s. If they all fail miserably then in all likelihood I will have to deplete my donor completely and still have a thin crown/midscalp. I've attached some crappy pics to give you a general idea of my hair.

Small update - I sent pics to Erdogan and they quoted me 3k-3.2k grafts. Not too bad but I think that might go up by the time I get round to having it + there being more miniaturization on my scalp than the pics show (behind the temples). Gonna send my pics round to a few others on the shortlist and see what the differences in graft # are

Wow, incredible density + result for just 3095 grafts!

Do not go to Bosley. Disgraceful outfit.

Just screams transplant to me. Not very natural looking and a bit over-the-top. Some people like that though. Must admit I'm quite envious he has 5,000 grafts to drop into a NW2 area!

Don't go to India. Go to one of the better docs in Turkey if cost is an issue.

Sorry to see this. Hope you can get it fixed by a good surgeon. Another recommended surgeon from this site with another botch job. People need to be careful. Could you please disclose the surgeon's name so others can avoid a similar fate?

Thanks for the input guys. I think we are mostly in agreement. I obviously won't be able to get the full picture until I have my donor area assessed and get some graft counts from clinics. Graft quotes will decide whether it is Erdogan, Keser, Lupanzula or Bisanga. (shortlist for now, subject to change ofc!). Obviously I can't be sure but having researched hundreds of results, I am quite confident I can get the results I desire for 2.5k-3k grafts in the hands of a great surgeon. I am 27, NW3 with dense hair and temporal recession. Erdogan is my first choice but I am sure he will quote me 3.5k minimum.

Agree. Happens all too often unfortunately. I don't see how its "trashing" a surgeon to post their name along with their results .I thought it was one of the main reasons for this community, for us as customers to stick together in what can be a pretty risky industry. Trashing a surgeon would be not posting pics but attacking them anyway. They should be held accountable for their work. Now we have a recommended surgeon doing botch jobs like this and we'll never know who it is. I feel sorry for whoever the next victim may be.

I would take the "recommendations" on this site with a pinch of salt. That basically means they are not butchers, it doesn't mean they are elite or even great. Many doctors have a lot of bad results on this site. The Indian one for example as hrsp10 says. I'm not particularly impressed with Dr. Yaman's hairline work though I guess he's one of the best in that price bracket (1 euro) Also Demirsoy and Karadeniz are not on the same level as Keser and Erdogan. The second two are the strongest in Turkey. Both use a LOT of grafts to achieve their dense results though so you better have donor to spare.