chris39

Must admit , it is a strange design .

I did actually consider this clinic , but decided otherwise .

As long as there is no heavy physical activity such as heavy weights , you should be good with your plans .

Run it past your Dr anyway .

Nice result and honestly presented photo's .

Makes the good point that expectations need to be realistic , more so in the case of higher NW's . Exceptional circumstances apart , higher NW's are never gong to achieve the cosmetic effects of super high density .

Chris,

 

I do not believe I saw any of your photos. Could you provide that so I can take a look at your progress?

If you click on my profile then posts , you will find my thread on the 2nd page .Not sure how to post links !

Not updated for a while which I will do in a few weeks .

Hello Chris,

 

Do you mind sharing how much was your deposit and total cost?

Deposit - 400 euros . Would have to check back on the total cost , but somewhere around the 6k euro mark.

I had surgery with Dr K last December and paid the deposit . I had no problem with it .

Some forum members may say you shouldn't need to , but to be fair I can understand the reasons why a deposit may be requested . It shows intent on the part of the patient and puts off the undoubted bluffers out there .

Well I am not. I do not know if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

I've no idea who you are , but I'd take it that the inference is not good !

Looks great . Fantastic improvement from 6 to 12 months .

Neither of these statements are true.

Oh right !

Care to expand on your comment ?

chris39 have you had a transplant?

I have !

Chris, do you really think so? I still cant se big changes.

 

Also last night one friend told me, " mosd,your hair is getting really thin"

I think it looks improved compared to your 7 and 8 month photo's . The quality of your latest photo's aren't that great to be fair , so may be able to better judge with clearer photo's.

Thanks for the input Gillenator .

You mentioned in the other forum about researching the subject . As that thread is now 6 years old , did you ever get any further on with the research , and has any medical research ever been undertaken into the phenomenon as far as your know?

I find it a really interesting topic , but the silence on the subject , these type of threads apart , is disconcerting.

You mentioned about possible miniaturisation of donor hairs. I understand that there's no definite answer , but do you think that the level of miniaturisation is likely to be minimal or greatly reduced after a certain age ?

Below is a link to a forum discussing the same topic. It is 5 years old and it might be a good read for some answers.

 

https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/threads/5760-Transplanted-hair-receding-years-after-HT.

 

Good Luck!

Bald Mouse Blues

Thanks for the link BMB - very interesting thread .

Gillenator had a big ( and informative ) input into that thread , so hopefully he will pop into this thread also .

The crux of the thread lay out the following possibilities as to why this may occur :

1) Hairs transplanted from the 'safe' donor zone may still be susceptible to DHT . In such an instance , the hair although not miniaturised at that point may miniaturise at some subsequent point . I hope I explained that clearly enough .

2) Hairs transplanted from the donor zone may change characteristics when transplanted - that is none DHT susceptible donor hair can transform into DHT susceptible hair and miniaturize/fall out once relocated .

Read through the link to get a better understanding of it .

Interesting to note also , that a compromised blood supply to the scalp wasn't mention in the linked thread .

Yes - if you click on my posts you should come across it within a few pages - you'll know what one it is by the thread title .

hi Chris39

 

sorry but both my friends had no logical explaination from their surgeons there were a lot of "maybe" in their outlook and both have given up on another Touch up Hair Transplant for the rest of their Lives , They No longer follow this Game .

 

Sorry as it may appear , No surgeon is ready to chime in on this one , I would urge the Moderators to ask the doctors to please chime in , there is only some Maybe Tellogen effluvium or Bad blood supply excuse given at the end of the Day .... But that is also quoted as "Maybe" ...... Btw both my friends had no Stress and all their blood work was Normal , and that is the only reason that makes me keep out of Hair Transplant surgery even when I know I desperately Need one .

Hi Mikeey ,

It's a pity your friends were never given a half decent explanation . Of course it's possible that at this moment in time there is no definitive explanation as to why this may occur . We all know that a HT result is never guaranteed , but it would certainly be beneficial for all if it was at least brought out into the open . Does it occur in 1 in a 50 , 1 :100 , 1 : 1000 ?

You'd also think that by now some research would have been undertaken into the phenomenon . At least that way , patients could be made more aware of the potential precursors that may lead to such a result , similar in ways to Dr's refusing prospective patients with poor donor characteristics .

I can appreciate why Dr's shy away from the subject , especially in the public domain , as with all things related to the internet things can be blown way out of proportion .

I can also understand your reticence in holding back from a procedure .

Anyway , I hope this thread and similar others can at least lead to some positive research on the subject .

I'm happy with my growth . Only had the hairline and mid scalp addressed , and as a NW6 , still have the crown area to be dealt with . I think my expectations were modest , but realistic , and to that end I'm good .

Hi Chris yeah it's hard not too. Constantly taking photos etc. What you think of the density look good enough? You have a procedure with DR K? It crossed my mind maybe I should have lowered the hair line a small bit but thinking now that would have been too aggressive?

Hi Baldydude - For the area addressed and the no. of grafts placed , the density should be good . Have you any idea in square centimetres the area covered ?

Yes , I had surgery with Dr K 10 months ago now . The Dr is conservative with his hairlines . I would have perhaps liked to have the hairline lowered by a smidgeon , but can always look at this if / when I have further ops.

Certainly looks to have improved from your 7 and 8 month photo's .

Hope it continues .

Sad to hear of anyone losing the battle against this horrible disease .

R.I.P Alex .

Only just saw this thread .

As mentioned , largely depends on surgeons skill , your own physiology and post op regimen . HTsoon metioned about his friend hitting the gym 1 month post op .

I was conerned about scar stretch so didn't do any weights for 4 months . Maybe OTT , but why chance it after all the financial and emotional energy invested .

By the way , my scar is not visible when cut to a no.3 . If I'm feeling brave sometime might give a no.2 a go.

Work looks neat .

Good luck with the journey and try to keep out of the paranoia zone !

hi ,

something very similar has been reported by my friends also , they had stellar results till around 14-15 months post op. they had both been very happy , but suddenly after 16-18 months post Op , they started loosing hair that were Transplanted neat the front and midscalp , they had both opted for 3000 + grafts . and till today they have no clue as to what happened? they still Lack density but both have opted out of another roller coaster Hair Transplant .

ONE MOst Important thing to take note is :

Both said they experienced quiet a bit of Itching before the Transplanted hair started thinning , and both were very sure about the hair being of a Transplant , as Both had absolutely Barren front and Midscalps .

 

If anyone here has any answers to this , Please inform us , so that we can take the necessary action , after all Money that goes in the drain is infact our Hard earned .

Mikeey ,

I thing it was one of your posts that I came across on this subject .Have your friends ever been given any feedback from their surgeons ?

Can any surgeons chime in on this subject ?

The no. of patients I've come across who have had this problem is concerning , and it really is a topic that should be addressed .

I can only speculate as to the reasons why it seems hushed up , but brushing it under the carpet wont make the problem disappear.

One of the possible reasons I've seen mentioned relates to a reduction or cessation of blood supply to the scalp , for whatever reason , and would at least provide some form of logic to the possible reasons .

Looks very good Hairsgone .

Your hair is already improved on your pre op , so next couple of months will be interesting .

What month post op are you ?

I have fair ( ish ) hair . Up to the 3 month mark , the hairs were light , but darkened over the subsequent months .