Markee

Seesaw can you tell me what European airlines to try and book with an maybe?

I don't have a clue

What does the good doctor charge ?

Yeah I can relate to feeling a bit nervous prior to such a big trip. I think the nervousness will ease up and you’ll be really excited once you start your trip. If you’re nervous because it’s a long flight and you’ve never been outside the US, I understand your nervousness. But you’ll likely enjoy being a new country. Cypriots are hospitable and friendly, given that tourism is a big part of their economy, and you will feel welcomed. Stores usually have people who speak English and all the folks at HDC all speak English as well.

 

I don’t know when you’re flying but flying during peak travel season in July and August could be expensive. During off-peak season, you’ll able to score tickets below $1000. If you’re flying out of Miami, I’m sure you’ll have plenty of options like British Airways, Virgin Atlantic, Lufthansa, Air France..., so competition will keep prices reasonable. I would recommend you fly with a European airline, rather than an American if possible, as based on my experience, you get better service.

 

If your son will travel with you, that would be good. As I said in my earlier post, it’s great to have a companion, especially on such a long trip.

Seesaw thanks for the friendly reply

Its a big deal getting HT surgery so definitely I'm feeling nervous guess my brain is still digesting the fact that its actually going down I only really got the final word yesterday.

So right now I'm trying to sort out a few things like to get an idea what my work scheduled down time might be and to figure the best way to pay for this ?

I have a small business fire extinguisher service company company and spend my days going from business to business checking there fire extgs. dealing face to face with customers wondering how long till i can go back to work ?

As far as paying been saving for this for a long time putting cash aside but definitely don't want to travel with like 10k in cash best way to use the cash but not carry cash ?

Travels checks maybe ?

Considering i have like zero experience traveling looking for suggestions is all ?

Appreciate the suggestion about using a European airline thats good. Till now I been communicating with Pantelis general manager there he said as of Monday patient coordinator George will be in contact with me and help recommend flights did the guy help you find a flight ?

Miniaturization can only be confirmed by a microscopic examination, never by pics...that's a fact.

Do you think it can only be microscopically confirmed?

Because the doctor and recommended surgeon here I went to see inperson didn't put anything under a microscope he just put on some sort of magnifying glasses and sifted through the back of my head?

Been back and forth with his people and just got the final word and its good to go

Super nervous right now can't believe actually going through with this

Not much of a traveler never even been outside the US

Just told my son and hes asking if he can come alone so wondering what a round trip ticket from South Florida to Cyprus might cost me ?

Dr. Maras is a recommended surgeon and has a track record of high quality results that’s an excellent choice.

Melvin help me out here your much more experienced in this stuff then me.

I've spent the past week searching hard on most of the main HT forums looking at HDC and Dr. Maras's work comparing it to Erdogan and others reading reviews.

I'm impressed with what I see. His work looks really good and theirs a lot of it out there going back a long long way.

I've also been back and forth with his people and its all been positive they have also sent me many examples of work hes done similar to mine and pretty much at this point I had settled on him but then I noticed something a bit strange ?

Out of all his personal review pictures going back I can't find any where hes done temple point work I found like one from like 10yrs ago and it looks a little strange.

My temples area is seriously recessed and getting it fixed in like number 1 priority of any HT for me.

Personally I feel that the hair line temple area and points run hand and hand and are the make or break of any successful HT surgery and without the proper temple points to frame the face things tend to just look not quite right?

So I contacted his people explained and also asked if they could send me some examples of the good doctors temple work and he only sent me just one case back and then he gave me the follows below explanation

Regarding the temporal peaks, this is a subject that can hold a lot of discussion. I know the work of Dr Erdogan and his practice to build the peaks.

The main argument is that those peaks can look good at the beginning but a few years later when hair loss may progress then these peaks could be a great liability. You see the results presented 1 year after. But if you see these results presented 5-10 years after, you will notice that as hair loss may progress or miniaturization may progress then the peaks is standing out as aggressive hair transplantation and one would may want to have them removed.

It is not a matter if Dr Maras can do it, but if it is correct to do it.

This really throws me off temple points are so important so again I searched around the HT forums searching temples and temple points and don't see any discussion on this issue at all

So looking to start some here

I mean the doctors work in hairlines looks great top notch excellent but temple points also takes a special skill

Right I'm trying to change direction and setting on a second choice sent my pictures around and waiting for a more consult replies to come back been in leaning towards Dr.Maras with HDC

What ya think good choice ?

Hoping to get more feedback and suggestions here before i make a final decision

https://www.hairtransplants-hdc.com/hdc-results/results

My Local HT doctor put on his magnifying glasses and sifted through the back of my head and said no problems there your donor area is looking good

I've sent my pictures already to many of the doctors recommended on this site and not one other then Erdogan sees any miniaturization issues in the donor area ?

Did the doctor microscopically examine your donor zone? And even if he did not, it's possible that he noticed some level of diffused loss or miniaturization in the donor area whereby he concluded that the area is DHT receptive.

 

I really can't think of any other reasons why he would have the opinion he has expressed. Who are you referring to Erdogan or my local doctor ? They say Erdogan is picky only excepting patents that hes 100% sure of more worried about his reputation

 

There will always be doctors who will be willing to do a procedure even if they see that the donor hair is not stable.

After seeing my donor pictures and video whats your opinion you have alot of HT experience here

Do you think Dr. Jim Harris, Denver, CO - Dr. Robert True & Dr. Robert Dorin would turn me down ?

Some updated donor area pictures.

How would you rate?

I say good enough

I've seen people with alot worse donors areas then mine go through and have multiple procedures

Link to my donor area comb through video So thick can hardly get a comb through it

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-KJQzk1LZHUBLGYmYDYVYC-OUkJC6XjA

Your 35 day pictures look dame good Keser looks interesting

I just emailed him my consult pictures

Looking for an alternatives since Erdogan shot me down

I'm I bit lost with some many doctors to choice from

Thank you!

 

I had some requirements in my mind:

 

- FUE

- Dense packing

- Manual extraction

- Stick and place

- Operation to be performed on multiple days

- Both extraction and placement to be performed by the doctor

 

All these led me to Dr. Keser.

 

I also had Dr. Konior and Dr. Couto in my mind but eliminated both due to long wait times and high price.

Nice job looking good the density in your pictures at only 5 months really pops out at ya can only imagine how much better its going to look at 10 months

Anyways I'm considering Cinik already sent him my pictures dealing with his assistant zlem Menteş ?

Now I'm trying to search out as much info and past reviews as I can on the guy. Unless I'm missing something his site seems to have very limited results pictures could you please hook me up with some of those other forums that you say hes well represented at tuff time making up my mind on this

How long does it take to get an appointment how far ahead is he booked ?

Thanks for the replies feeling a little lost right now really appreciate the help

Next time I color my hair I plan to take some new pictures and do the comb-through video thing and maybe I'll also go back to the local HT doctor here in South Florida and talk to him more specifically about the miniaturization and have him take a second look ?

I'm pretty sure I'm needing atleast 3000 graphs with Erdogan it would definitely be atleast 5k

US Doctors like Konior and Gabel are booked super busy I really wanted to get this done with in the next 6months and also there pricing is a bit over the top I think for me to get the density I'd like I might be looking at close to 25 to 30k crazy don't want to spent that much

It really took me along time on the forums to finally settle on a doctor and I'm really struggling again now to settle on an comparable alternative to Erdogan

Leaning towards Dr Kyriakos Maras HDC today good choice ?

other suggestions please chime in ?

I also emailed my pictures to Dr.Yaman , Dr.Karadeniz , The Hairline Clinic (HLC), Dr.Cinik anyone I'm missing ?

Heres what Dr. Cinik's people had to say about Erdogan below

Koray Erdogan is choosing his patients and is only accepting patients where he knows that they will have 100 % results, he is rejecting a lot of patients.as we are not as worried in our reputation as him but more for are patients satisfaction, we would do your transplant and are sure that you ll achieve great results.

Ozlem Mentes

Assistant of Dr.Cinik

R the patchy brown spots miniaturized hairs ? If not then I think ur donor is thick n strong enough for a decent transplant .. u do have some hairloss at the lower area .. retrograde alopecia.. but ur donor is a lot better than some others that had good results .. u be able to find a surgeon that be able to work with u ..

Na I'm old and gray been coloring it for like 20yrs already the patchy brown spots are just gray showing through

I'm sure I have defused and maybe some retrograde alopecia but miniaturized hairs I don't know about that ?

So before I totally give up on Erdogan I was thinking it might be worth a try to find out for sure one way or another and if i don't and theirs a way to show him in black and white it might help my case to change his mind ?

Is that possible and what would be the best way to do that ?

Is there some test ?

Maybe its time to just give up on Erdogan

Wondering if there actually is a way to know with certainty if I have a miniaturization issue?

I've been consulting with Erdogan trying to schedule my procedure and he just keep shootings me down saying I have miniaturization issues I just don't get it ?

I've reviewed tons of his previous surgeries and I see people with way worse hair loss and much much thinner looking donor areas then mine that hes done

I've had a one on one inperson consult locally with a highly component HT doctor thats refereed here on this site and he said my donor area is good to go

These are the pictures i just sent to Erdogan for my last consult shot me down again?

Don't get it?

The hair on the back of my head grows thick like a jungle the light areas are not thinning just grey hairs

Whats to do next ?

Good post I be needing to do some more consults also be interesting to see what advice people give you

Yes twice!

“Good candidate”. “Average donor”. “Signs of miniaturization in lower donor”

Where are you seeing signs of miniaturization in his lower donor area i just can't see it?

Looks like a pretty average normal donor area to me ?

Looking good and nice comparison picture

Thanks for your words Markee. What’s the latest with you? Last I read you had been knocked back by Asmed.

Yeah he shot me down. I've been in direct contact with Asmed patient coordinator Andreea on the phone and through text she just had me send in a new set of pictures told me I should have a answer back by Tuesday.

Hoping I get the go ahead this time otherwise I'll be lost and struggling again looking for advice for my next best alternative ?

Worst is over looks absolutely great already at just a short 7 months

Life changing

Thanks mate.

Don’t forget that my hair starts to shed:)

Not noticeable in the pictures that I can see yet

I'm no expert but in these pictures to me your progress seems to be one of the best I've ever seen at just 24 days your looking better then many look at 6 months and the density of the graphs looks great

Nice job looking GQ now

Impressive

Yeah those Instagram and YouTube results look maybe to good to be true be careful