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Yes, Nioxin is a 3 part system with shampoo, conditioner and treatment. They make different types for different types of hair. Since using it I have experienced 'zero' hair loss. It took one week before I noticed the results. It is also supposed to thicken the appearance of your hair. It can be quite expensive so shop around. I purchase mine at Ross Dept Stores for less than half the price ($19.99) it normally retails for ($50).

Wow!! That looks great.. One of the best and most natural hairlines I've seen posted here.

Your argument is ‘non sequitur’ or logically fallacious. It relates to a thought disorder for people who IMO should keep their thoughts to themselves.

I can see your pain is real and feel bad that you think I am 'with' the place that did this. My initial response was one of skepticism but hopeful things weren't as bleak as it seemed. I apologize for being insensitive or impatient that you didn't reply sooner, as you said, you haven't been on this site for awhile. I DO NOT apologize to any of the posters (fruitcakes) that think I had anything to do with this though. As I said I am an ex medical professional who had work done at the clinic. It's that simple. At one year I happily posted my results here never thinking it would be used against me. But you have a legitimate issue with this clinic and the players involved. You should seek whatever relief you can to remedy the situation. Document, document, document... That includes any contact (phone, email, letter etc...) you've had with this clinic. This is evidence. Date and time, who you spoke with, what was discussed and the result of the conversation. Try to negotiate a resolution first. If you feel they are not interested in helping you resolve this or are stonewalling, start looking online for Colorado legal advice. Familiarize yourself with CO law. Some attorney's will be avl to speak with you and some may not. You are looking to speak with a legal professional with litigation experience in medical malpractice or medical negligence. Begin developing your case as an attorney would even prior to speaking to one. Prepare a portfolio with your documentation and notes and start making calls. Educate yourself. In an earlier post I wrote about 'respondent superior' and how the med. dir. is ultimately responsible for the care and procedures performed by the clinic. If you contact the clinic again, bypass everyone else and ask to speak only to medical director when discussing your grievances. I don't blame you for not wanting to allow him to repair this. Ask him to make a referral while understanding the clinic will be responsible for whatever cost it takes to fix. Be smart.. If you feel negotiation or arbitration is impossible, don't tell them you are going to speak to an attorney. This might end any attempt to resolve this one on one as they may 'lawyer up' and cut off communications with you. I'll give you another medical term you case may fall under. It is 're ipsa loquitur' and means the thing speaks for itself. I believe based on your photos an attorney may agree and because of this may work pro bono. Call these people and see if they can help. Metro Volunteer Lawyers | Providing free and low-cost civil legal services to those in need in the Denver Metro area since 1966. Need Help? Call 303-837-1313. Then contact this place. http://apps.americanbar.org/legalservices/probono/directory/colorado.html You have a lot of work to do. I wish you well my friend. Again, I am very sorry.

Sorry to break up your group think here pal but I'm just not a 20yo freaked out over hair loss... My money's still green tho. Cheers!

My dad's family came to New Orleans in early 1900's. Connatella's (Contella) migrated to Galveston and Accardo's to Chicago. I also have a lot of cousin's, Di Benidetto's, Bruno's.... But they all came from a small village near Palermo. I don't remember the name.

Having seen this I would never do FUT again. But that quality of work is evidently hard to find in the US today. From my cursive search it seems the best docs are overseas? Even some guys on this site have been to several places in the US with only mediocre results. If I was going to spend that kind of money I would want to only go thru this once. That's why for now I'm satisfied with what I have. At least my exwife likes it.. When my daughter gets out of HS, I'm going to visit friends in Amsterdam and travel Europe for awhile (Madrid, Nice, Roma).... May check out a clinic while I'm there, if not sooner. Nice to have a contact.. You're not retiring anytime soon are you?

I can be loyal to a fault sometimes in both working relations and friendships.. And would never betray someone who's done me a good deed or favor. That will probably never change.... The HT virgin I was was grateful to the clinic and felt an obligation to defend them. That's just who I am. My eyes really opened after reading Micky's thread and then seeing Dr. Lorenzo's FUE work in Mexico. I had no idea that kind of density was even possible. About 50grafts/cm...? Wow!! So, you help Italianos with repair work. That's admirable. My dad was Siciliano and I want to take my daughter to Palermo (Italia) next year. My 3rd trip her first...... Appreciate it Lorenzo. Thanks for hanging in there with me.

When he starts barking or growls for no reason I put him in the bathroom and try to ignore him. I'm going to try the same with you.

I've spent the last two hours looking at FUE videos on youtube watching vids and the use of a 0.85MM extraction tool used in FUE. Now understand the difference in using a 1.00MM vs. the 0.85 and the users technique. I've also been reading the FUE thread here that some guy named 'Micky' started. Tons of useful information there. This is literally the first time I've used this site the way it was intended. I completely see everything your saying now. Should have done this two years ago but decided to trust and go with the flow that I now regret.

That looks about right. Stay away from hot hot showers. I use Nioxin and have seen zero hair in the shower drain since starting the tx a year ago.. It should continue to come in and 'normalize' for a few more months.

You already said that.:confused:

Thanks.:confused:

I think the only way to tell is when it heals. Then they can see how much scare tissue there is. Mine healed very well and hopefully his does as well.

I think they should. HT recipients should only go to places whose core competency is in the area they seek treatment. I'm sure where ever you are receiving bone marrow, you're not their first pt. Depending on the size of the ACF they have likely done thousands.

What about the guy that can't afford a $15,000 HT. Where do they go?

And again, I concur. The clinic needs to do a better job. Particularly for patients with advanced hair loss. For those who can only afford what I got, they should do what..?

During the last two or three days I learned a lesson defending my HT results to people mad at this clinic. I educated myself about FUE's to get a better understanding of what everyone was saying. Some of the work I found was amazing but came with a hefty fee. Like many things in life and as tempting as 6-8USD/follicle sounds, people still have to live within their means. If I chose one of these places, instead of paying $5K I would have paid $15-20K. For many today that is a tough decision. But I agree with you in that a medical facility needs to stay within their core competency. They should have said it would be best to do an FUT. And they may have........ In either case, if he lets them, the clinic should try to make it right with this guy when his wounds heal. I had a hlthcare company and know I would. I disagree with this being criminal. Maybe civil but not criminal. I'm not a legal guy but my assessment was I saw nothing they did to be non-compliant with regs and law. Trust me when I say I saw what they did and they are doing it the way a clinic should be operated. That's my professional opinion. Their med. dir. carries all the liability and no doc is going to risk their license for a facility that doesn't have it all together. That's a certainty. [\QUOTE]=lorenzo;2456655]DD214 I am going to give you the benefit and believe you are a patient. Lets say to make things easy that this clinic offers great FUT. Their FUT results are 10/10 but their FUE results are lacking way behind. After looking at the pictures I have to say the FUE are 1/10, they look like a hair transplant from the 70's. Doesn't the doctor have a duty to tell the patient. We do great FUT but are not that good at FUE. After that don't you think the patient would either decide to get FUT or go to another clinic for FUE. Nobody can defend what we have seen. It look similar to the plugs from the 70's. DD214 obviously you are an intelligent guy so why not check out other doctors FUE result and see the huge difference. The patient is not innocent either because he didn't research enough and was convinced become of the clinics price. I really feel bad for him because what has happened to him is criminal in my opinion.

I said 'I, me, myself...' don't know a lot about FUE, not the clinic. I simply stated the clinic I had my procedures done is known for FUT's.

And I agree.. We are beating a dead horse. I would have never guested my question would have turned into a feeding frenzy the way it did. To be the target for criticisms was completely unexpected. I never meant to represent anybody but myself, what I saw and experienced there. Having already posted two before and after pics of my FUT results, I'm not sure at this point whether or not I'm comfortable posting more. I'll think about it.

End a conversation with name calling..? I would have let leindub have the last word because he broached the original question I had wondered. Why do an FUE in a clinic known for FUT's? Until you needlessly chimed in with your insults I was thru with this. I have no dog in this fight but you keep making this personal.

Maybe you're not use to people standing up for themselves against your onslaught of accusations and name calling. You need to learn. And it just kills you to read I had a good experience and satisfied outcome with these people. Hey, I'm sorry Sanjar is depressed about his procedure too and that he lives so far away that he can't get his issues addressed. That would suck for anybody. But I wouldn't have done what he did in traveling so far for a major purchase that may require follow up. To me that's common sense. That doesn't give you carte blanche to tee off on me because I asked a question or write of my experience. You got the wrong guy for that.

And your melodramatic speeches are humorous. I got out of healthcare years ago precisely because of people like you. Why anyone would work in healthcare these days is a mystery to me. But you definitely have a victim mentality screaming for attention you never received bald and it is obvious to me why. You should have fixed that problem first. Anybody who has spent as much time and money fixing their looks spells insecurity. Or is this just a California thing..? Oh, but I'm the narcissist... lol:p I'm not holding my breath but the service accepts people under 32 and your last chance to become a man is running out. Maybe you should go medical like I did. With all the times you spent under the knife, I'd say you're halfway there.

But because you brought up a point I'm familiar with I'll respond. As mentioned earlier, when I first went to clinic I observed their system and was comfortable with what I learned. Everything I saw was legal. In my case the Dr. surgically cut the donor strip and the staff, again in my case a registered nurse, did the donor prep and insertions. You are right about one thing though and I don't know how a clinic could charge so little if a doctor did it all start to finish. Just fyi. In healthcare there is a medical phrase this system falls under. It is 'respondent superior.' Literally it means 'let the master answer.' Legally meaning everything done in the clinic and under the doctor's care is the doctors responsibility. In my experience, both service and civilian, the more comfortable a doc is with you, the more you can do under his wing. When I was a corpsman in the Marines (DD214) I sutured and performed minor surgery because the docs knew I knew how. This is an important thing to know for anyone seeking any medical care..

I once taught a class on this subject.