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"Not sure I agree with all of this. Firstly, if you have only lost 25 percent of your hair, it will make a massive difference. "

NO, he says you will only get back 25% max of your original density. Again, for a NW5 to 7 this is the truth.

"1. There isn't enough hair. If you pour about $40,000 into it, you can get back maximum 25% of your original density. That's it. About 7,500 grafts. "

I completely agree with his statement. NW5 to NW7 are chasing something that simply is not there, and will never have a full head of hair, never have the density. PLUS 40k.

Although there are some amazing docs here that look out for you, and will not just "take your money." Shapiro, Lindsey come to mind.

I would tell any NW5, to buzz and SMP, you will live a better life.

Now, below that NW scale results are simply amazing. A NW3 getting 3500 grafts is a game changer

Shave your head down before hand so you can get used to that look. Then see if you still want to go the HT route.

Also think about hairline, and future loss. You can build your hair line however you want, maybe a windows peak instead of going across.

If your loss does not stabilize, you will absolutely need a second HT, for that up front area.

Is your crown thinning? That's too fronts of hair loss, it will be a big deal if you go HT route.

I think it looks pretty good. I would work with a better barber though. A skilled barber could do wonders with your hair. How's the crown? Have you noticed a difference with Propecia? Do you feel its working?

"Most patients don't even start seeing signs of growth until between 3 to 5"

I would disagree with you that sir. That most patients "see" results between 3 to 5 months. OP is at 5 months, approaching the six month mark, and I personally would be concerned. "TommyLucchese" kind of feels the same. I agree with the OP concerns and see them as valid, where as you do not.

Unfortunately the OP's only option is wait. Weather his concerns are valid or not valid, OP gets to wait.

1. Posting pictures will not change anything.

2. He can talk to his doctor, and that will not change anything,

3. He can start a few more threads and research and waste countless hours and that will not change anything.

Also, it could be his expectations are not aligned, Depending on the type of hair, extra grafts might not make a density difference to him. Either way, the answer to all his questions will be the same. Check back in 1 year post op. I'm simply trying save he OP from some monkey brain.

I have had 2 HT. In my pictures, you can see mys scar. It is a decent size scar, but with the right stylist I can go down to a 3'ish and be good.

For the first 7 days don't touch your head at all. Have the medical cap on, maybe a loose hat, and just zone out for 7 days. You want to make sure those grafts get set before you start fucking with stuff

If your going to do this over the web, you need massive amount of head shots, and you need to have a consultation with doc over skpe or in person.

1. Doc should not even talk to you if you have not shaved your head down to a at least a 2 or 1.

You need to see the other side first before you commit to a HT

2. Meet with some local docs, get some opinions.

3. Talk skype, visit in person with some out of town docs.

If your on the path to NW5 to NW 7 you will spend 20 to 30k to be happy. So your $350 flight to someone's office will mean nothing.

The deposit seems cheap, and paying in cash is shady.

It raises my eyebrow anytime someone says pay in cash.

You already got a couple of red flags, and you should move on and find someone else

I feel my scar got stretch or something happen to it. It's in my profile pics.

Not to worried, it can be repaired, or re visioned. Styled, I can shave down to a guard 3. Thought it did miss my expectations about having a "a pencil thin scar"

Why would posting photos help? They will not.

You have good cause to be concerned,however, but the only option is to wait.

Your doc is going to say wait, senior board members will say wait

In the end you might be fu**ed, or you might not be.

Or say you had surgery and you have stitches, its gross to look at, and your waiting for your hair to grow back.

OH absolutely get a new doc. A good doctor should have been able to do wonders with 1400 and your hair type. Don't lower the hairline, not worth it and you will never be able to keep up

If you can stomach another FUT, do that. Best proven results

Thank you. I see so many NW6, with a big head of hair on the sides, and wondered why I couldn't just grab FUs from there, and save the "strip zone" for a later date.

I read that FUE results have improve dramatically, and I was hoping per my previous post, to do a fue in such a way, it would not interfere with my future strip procedue

3k, first FUT

2k, 2nd, FUT

I believe the doc said I had maybe 2 more FUT procedures left in me

True, which is why I had a 2nd HT via Strip. Now after the second looking at a 3rd. I am a little over a year post op and all I can think of is the recovery time, the stiches, how it sucks.

Then I see Fue, and two weeks later like nothing happen.

I want another HT but would like to wait a little longer before another strip procedure. In the meantime, I wanted to try FUE, maybe 800 to 1500 hundred, and then later another strip.

I was hoping to go with FUE, and have the staff take out from an area that would not be part of a strip procedure.. maybe like the sides of my head??

Looking at (unreal) 3rd HT. Both HT have been strip. The thought of a 3rd strip is daunting to me so I am considering FUE.. Should I continue to exhaust Strip, before moving on to FUE?

"Did you have a large area to cover? If so 2k grafts will not make much of difference in my opinion."

Perhaps your right, and coverage was spread to wide.

Look I am just a simple man, and when I look in the mirror and I see a very sparse, planted type of hairline after 8 months of a second HT, I get concerned that the staff and doctor had a 'bad day', the doctor just did a really terrible job in the front. that my HT was unsuccessful.

Was it? The two pics show how sparse the frontal 1/3 looks. Anyone close enough to me will see it. Even my 'low quality' pictures at an abysmal resolution of 1900 x 1600 show this as well.

From what everyone has said so far, that the growing of new hairs has been completed. Which is contrary to what I read from Spex and company. Of course I will find out either way obviously.

I want more growth, but I want to be honest with the situation.

Added some pics.

If things don't improve by the year mark, I guess my only option is another HT

To TakingthePluge's comment of no growth, I would say I have had some growth, but very very disappointing. I had 2000 grafts from the front to the back. and it does not look like it.

At 3 months I contacted the doctor and told him how surprised how little change I had. The doctor reassured me, and informed me that a 2nd HT take 4 to 6 months.

I waited 8 months, and contacted the Doctor again, and the doctor agreed that my hair was "thin", and that I should wait 9 to 12 months, and possibly longer.

Yes I have, to expressed my concerns confusions etc.. . The answer is to 'wait, which I have been for 8 months. I have read from the people who represent the docs that 'sometimes' it takes a year or longer for hairs with a 2nd hairplants to sprout. Yet I have trouble finding actual patients accounts on the various boards. No people claiming, at 12 months their hair finally showed up. Being told to wait longer then a year seems dubious; and highly unlikely I will have new hairs that sprout.

I don't feel I am inpatient. The first HT, was text book. 4 - 6 months. I am just at a point of concern where I am looking to validate "the could take a year to see growth claim."

and it looks pluggy because their all multiple single hairs group next to each other, followed by a space of no grafts, and then another set of three or two single hairs.