nativeremdies

I have average density , and excellent laxity

1st HT 3400

2nd HT 1800

I feel I could have gotten 2000 (possibly more) on the 2nd HT, had the doctor follow the same length as the first HT.

I am assuming your doing strip

It depends on who is doing your scar and your laxity of your scalp, and how long you leave those staples, sutures in.

I would ask yourself this question after 2 weeks after your operation, when you have a good natural inundation on yourscar

As a fellow NW5a, and resident "know it all" here is my thought, and I wish this was suggested to me my fist HT

1. First HT, go for maximum grafts

1, Be careful on how you construct your hair line. You will have future loss, and you want to try avoid the thin see through hair.

*** If I could do it over again, I would have skip the straight across hairline that Rahal performed, and followed a widows peek, ie. Jude Law, or what you naturally have right now. That way I could have dense packing in a small area up front, and let it get thin on the way back, and then attack the crown.

Take a look at my pics, and just don't do that. The head is a big area to cover, and anything you can do to have a more focused area will give you better results.

like it

Hopefully we start to see more from them. More options for more people is good

"until Histogen/Aderans are out"

Nope. 99% of all products mention as the next big thing fail. Histogen has a high probability of never coming out. That's just a fact . H&W says NO, then that is a 100% do not do it.

Your hairloss doesn't bother you, it is girls that bother you.

My advice, and it is your only option. Something a ex girlfriend (who I swear was also a escort) told me one time. "Ugh, just accept it and cut it short." One of the most honest insightful things a whore has ever said to me

Accept your NW7, and buzz your hair short. You'll stop worrying if people are looking at your hair loss. What kills most guys, is the hairloss over 10 of 15 years of it slowly receding. If we could all wake up one morning, and have no hair, we could accept it.

"this is where donor management becomes far more critical than gaining higher densities."

Sound advice. It's all these brilliant piece of info that get lost.

This becomes really important if you continue to lose hair after your HT.

What was one a shining example of modern miracle science, now looks like a deforestation

A couple of the doctors in your "Supporting Physicians:" offer laser therapy. Please ask them what they think about laser therapy, as they offer it.

I want to think a laser solution works. I don't trust people's review of the laser comb, because I think people are lazy. A laser hat! I can see a normal lazy guy sitting there with a laser hat on, while jerking it to hot 5 on 1 action on pornhub (at least I would) So you would have a more consistent application

I would love to to read one honest review from a sane normal person with no affiliation either way. Or that guy who does over macho grande, do a documented trial run to show it can work for someone.

nativeremdies

Super Patient Advocate

" Hopefully in the future there will be more verified data versus marketing."

Nope

It's the typical hairloss Maybe/Maybe not.

The cost is too high for average joes to jump all over it. Then you have the nay sayers just for the fact its different. I have read about a few people saying they spent 2,000 to 7,000 going to laser therapy, and it did not work.

But I think that is all suspect. Dateline said lasers work on hair, but then dateline rigs trucks to explode. FDA says lasers work on the hair, but then the FDA adds a new side effect to the Propecia bottle every year.

Do a google search on "over macho grande laser" I never used it because of the cost. About 1,200. I bet you could find a used one.. I would love to try a run a 3 with a month laser. If they had a return policy I would have jumped all over it.

"they’re over quickly and from then on I felt only the sensation of scalp contact – prodding and pushing – rather than pain. Later in the evening I had a bit of a headache, but in the days which followed, the only discomfort was some tenderness in the donor area when scrubbing it clean. "

Reads like 50 shads of Grey

Will do. I sent them a email, seeing if they could offer some insight on their practice

It would be great if we could get some more info about them. evil, if you have any impressions so far, please ante up

OK, I don't think you can do much right now. If its typical, you will come back naturally in a few more or several more weeks Thank the stars.

Rahal's office is great. His reps are great to talk with, his office is super nice to visit.. his staff, amazing.

You done good!

As best as I have read, it will not hurt to do nothing for 7 days, and let your head just sit there.

It might be optimal. You want those grafts to take root, 5 - 9 days.

After that you are solid

You will love it

Your hair looks thick which is good

When the rest of your native hairs take a dive, you will want a 2nd HT

Make sure keep the clinic updated with your progress, if money is a issue start saving now. When your ready for the second one in a few years, you will be able to pull the trigger

In Colorado you are not allowed to cut hair with out a license. So that's how lubricious having a license can be.

By the sheer number of bad HT, a license doesn't mean much to me.

I would take a tech with 20 years of experience any day of the week versus a doctors who name is recognized.

That's really the missing standard with all these clinics. Their staff, how much experience they have, and how long have they been at the clinic.

Really like how the doctor placed the grafts expecting future loss. He also didn't build a hair line across the entire length of your forehead, which will save you lots of grafts when you go for #2

Incredible, i love this doctor

Not putting any spin on this but, I saw an advertisement for them today on the back of a bus. Maybe they are trying to build up their practice.

I agree with Spex, very very scary. Before she is allowed to influence, shape, and "help" alter the future of fine young balding men, She needs a disclaimer at the bottom of her signature that she is not a Doctor

I remember when I was 7 back in 1984 seeing commercials for hairclub for men.

We do have a modern miracle of science! Hairloss prevention in a pill. If you are 'lucky' it works. If you get sides effects, it will suck away your soul like a stripper girlfriend.

Should be noted, both rogaine and propecia are "and it grows back here too?" happy accidents.

thank in you return, you have given me some things to think about

You have sound advice (I feel) in here, no body is going to say what you want to hear.

You don't want to buzz it, because it will look bad

You don't want get "another ht" because your worried aboout future loss

You don't want to "lazer" the grafts because of scaring

You don't want to just remove the grafts... not sure why

You don't want to wait and you don't want to move forward.

The only thing you haven't said, is what you really want what you really really want.. IT SOUNDS, like you want "another HT".. you keep coming back to wanting to improve your hair.

so Mr. Future Doc, was correct, .

or challange yourself, and try out a hair piece. It will give you the exactly kind of hair and look you want.

I believe Dr. Umar would do exactly what you want. Take those nasty dirty barely legal grafts out.

Have you reach out with Jana with the Shapiro group? What are these doctors saying? No its not possible? Or they will only do "another HT"?

As previously mention, because your just removing grafts, the 10,000 is not a realistic price. If the avg FUE graft is 5, I'm sure you can go less then that, if all a doctor is doing is pulling the graft out; but I honestly don't know.

You also might want to that with a different kind of head doctor . You post reads like this is taking a big toll on you I feel you would gain some huge insights if you were able to unload your worries with a professional.

It is slightly humorous that Future HT Doc's answer is "another HT" : )

WherefromHere, I understand how you are feeling . I must have skipped over the parts where people talk about fine hair, and the "see through" look.

However!! I would reach out Dr. Sanusi Umar, he seems to do things, and try things differently.