Dr Tejinder Bhatti

22 minutes ago, Badresults said:

@Dr Tejinder Bhatti First of all it is a joke that you are saying that I'm trapping you on whatever you said here. I'm only clearing my doubts, asking you questions, and pointing out all the flip flop statements you are making from very start and how are you trying to avoid answering the IMPORTANT questions.

Now look at below which I asked you about your patients representative leaking out or having your patients confidential details. Why are you not answering or making it crystal clear on what has been asked? See below:

Are you trying to say all your patient representative was regardless where they are based at have access to all your patient enquiry which comes in DIRECTLY TO YOU ON YOUR EMAIL? You know I sent all the enquiry directly to your email and not through, website, social media? So all your patient representative can access any patient personal details and black mail them or threat them? That is possible right based on what you are saying? Is this how you protect your patient confidential details? Is this even legal in India under medical practice? Do you know that with this statement of yours you have broke the legal law, forget about this blog, do you think this justification is valid if there is a case against you legally? If you think it's ok, then you definitely breaking every law.  Perhaps you could answer this to legal and consumer right soon.

Now let me make it clear why I said you, and your team and everyone who thinks that you don't know what Shera was about to do is purely a FAKE LIE. On June 14 2019, Shera posted a reply here on my post that he clearly don't know who I am, or where I am from and even mentioned that I went directly to you and did not consult any patient rep.  If he had all your patients details at that time he don't have to say this. You can read this yourself on this thread 1st page. So at that time, he did not know who I was, before even replying to me, but you saying all your patient reps has every patient of yours details. So what is what now? 

Do you know by you making this kind of statement it put every doctors in India reputation at risk? Every patient who is considering India as one of the destination for their procedure would think 1000 times now even if other doctors are not behaving in this unethical way? Everyone from abroad would have doubts over the integrity of doctors in India and I know this is really not fair but this is what you are showing.

Now goes to the part on the results, if you think graft testing is only for severe cases, why did you have to mention above that this is what you would suggest? I am only quoting what you said. And out of 10 patients you consult, you accept 3 the average, so I believe I would have been in the 3 patients category which made you thought you could do a good job, and we all know its a bad job from you.

So having said that, what kind of accountability that you hold? If you don't know the cause how can you offer a touch up? Just doing an experiment?

Also, are you still going to work with Shera after all this mess?

I have already given my end of the story to the Administrators here.

I will answer relevant to the questions you have put forth and answers to which I presume have already been conveyed to you. 

But for the benefit of the forum members let me reiterate-

1. Shera had complete access to mails concerning his jurisdiction as rep. But once its in my basket, he has nothing to do unless they need to be followed up. If there is a follow up I wish him to do, he already has all data. You cannot expect me to be doing surgeries and doing all the office work unassisted and then answering here as well. If there is an enquiry from US it goes to the US representative and so it is for Israel/Middle East and Australia. They comprise my office staff and get paid for it. This is how all offices in this industry work and is absolutely legal, not only in India but in every country in the world. Yes, if he were not working for me, and if he were a random person and I shared valuable patient information with him, it would have been completely illegal.

2. Shera is no longer the international representative at Darling Buds. Also his privileges have been revoked on this forum as well.

3. There is no shirking the responsibility for any result- good or bad. It is completely mine. I never said otherwise.

Remaining answers have been furnished already.

I will continue to hope you do not take legal recourse but give us a chance to serve you to your best interest.

Regards

46 minutes ago, Badresults said:

@Dr Tejinder Bhatti

He was an office employee who worked for the office and collects, collates and marks mails and other queries on social media for me to answer. He is privy to all information of international clients other than North America and Australia.

Are you trying to say all your patient representative was regardless where they are based at have access to all your patient enquiry which comes in DIRECTLY TO YOU ON YOUR EMAIL? You know I sent all the enquiry directly to your email and not through, website, social media? So all your patient representative can access any patient personal details and black mail them or threat them? That is possible right based on what you are saying? Is this how you protect your patient confidential details? Is this even legal in India under medical practice? Do you know that with this statement of yours you have broke the legal law, forget about this blog, do you think this justification is valid if there is a case against you legally? If you think it's ok, then you definitely breaking every law.  Perhaps you could answer this to legal and consumer right soon.

And would you still continue working with Shera?

its a mystery why it did not grow like was anticipated. The scarring was there but not dense as is common in repair cases & in this condition we  grow hair routinely well.

And he says he took Finasteride, so I am not sure what it actually was.

He should be taken up next only after test grafting

With your own admission here, that it is mystery, yet you asked me come in for a touch up without going into further details to investigate it? And hope for the best?Or you were just not interested to spend more time in finding out why and what went wrong? Since August 2018 - June 2019, have you even suggested me to go on Skype for you to take a closer look, no! I had to send you all the pictures monthly to ask you what is going wrong , and you don't have any answers. So you still think you provided support? I don't know if this is what you call a support?

Also, before you took up my case, you told me you could fix it. So why didn't you suggest me to do all the graft testing before coming to you? Isn't this what you as a Doctor should be doing? Or do patient have to figure out how to diagnose themselves and show the result to the doctor? Do you really think everyone is so gullible?

No one is gullible in today's world, Sir.

On the other hand I have learnt so much from my patients since I have been in practice and treated thousands. Any information is a mere click away. For instance, there is so much information available on this forum itself, it will take me or you a lifetime of reading.

Test grafting has its value, but in select cases only.

(I mentioned this not so you can trap me on every phrase that I write, but to give genuine advice.)

It is rarely indicated and definitely not in routine cases- cases done in seemingly clear cut situations. Like yours.

Though they were a routine 20 years back, today it is done only in burns,  and certain scarring alopecias.

However, when the second transplant does not appear to have made the difference, and 1000 eyes are on this thread, the stakes are quite high for a perfect result this time around. 

Skype consultations are useless for review. Good quality pictures are the best- which I already have with me.

Surgeons are not supermen, nor should they proclaim to be.

I caution patients in each and every video I publish. Out of every 10 people who consult me , I take up just 3. That is my average.

Have never given advice keeping commerce in mind. By the grace of God, I am reasonably affluent and I do not seek patients out.

One odd patient even in the best of situations will always be unhappy.

But bad results can always be set right. 

So I have been telling you since the very start. 

Do come back!

13 minutes ago, Pyrat said:

@Dr Tejinder Bhatti, what are some of the reasons why a normal patient’s grafts don’t grow. Are there any tests that a prospective patient can perform before the transplant that can shed light on this.

Before surgical hair restoration in males, eliciting history of illness is most important.

Only routine blood tests are done, but if there is a history of illness like anemia, hypothyroidism or diabetes, an array of other tests may be done and the procedure may need to be postponed.

Most people coming from abroad have got baseline tests done and so this is never a problem. Also if they have skin conditions, and we assume that they are truthful, they would have taken clearance from a local dermatologist for a hair transplant. This would have been conveyed to the hair transplant surgeon.

However, when it is a female suffering from hair loss, a large number of tests are mandatory even when she does not have symptoms. Since mostly, hair loss in women is hormonal.

If parameters of due care in technique are standard & constant, causes of sub normal hair growth after hair transplant can be :

1.       Underlying skin disorders (quiescent at time of procedure & history not provided)

2.       Scarring (the likely case with this patient). But his scarring is not dense as earlier mentioned (hence the mystery).

3.       Taking Finasteride before the procedure that masks miniaturising hair (video below)

4.       Not taking Finasteride after the procedure during the hair growth phase

5.       Excessive Smoking

These are the very basic reasons. Others are in the Video below and the videos linked to it in the Playlist.

The same can also be found at-

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/profile/11162-dr-tejinder-bhatti/?tab=field_core_pfield_10

12 hours ago, Badresults said:

I don't think the refund now should have any NDA attached to it. The refund should be an action taken by the doctor after what has transpired. Now we are not only talking on the horrible results BUT with the black mailing, disclosing patient confidential details to patient rep. Yes every hair transplant patient agree that there is no money-back guarantees, but does every hair transplant doctor and their team threaten and blackmail the patient employers? Does every transplant doctor can share their patients personal details without their consent? Is this justified?

Also, How did Bhatti's rep got my personal details? why is this not being answered?

He was an office employee who worked for the office and collects, collates and marks mails and other queries on social media for me to answer. He is privy to all information of international clients other than North America and Australia.

He also handled the chat bot on the website for 2 years.

I have explained the position to the Moderator fully.

13 hours ago, Panamera13 said:

Maybe other doctors on this forum can chime in or even the patients who might have experienced it before. 

What are the reasons that transplanted might NOT grow? There's no point of a repair when you don't know what the issue was. You might want go for 100 grafts next time to make sure they actually grow to confirm it was an implanting error on the doc. Do you any other skin conditions? Folleculitis or Lichen Plaopilaris

 

Its a mystery why it did not grow like was anticipated. The scarring was there but not dense as is common in repair cases & in this condition we  grow hair routinely well.

And he says he took Finasteride, so I am not sure what it actually was.

He should be taken up next only after test grafting

18 minutes ago, HTHope said:

Isn’t it part of their tradition to not cut their hair? So as a way to keep the hair manageable they tie it.

Yes. But hair bun needs to be tied loose. hair loss along hairline is not due to long hair, but due to tying the knot real tight.

Watch this-

Dear All,

Sorry for the delay in replying.

The past 2 days have been hectic in trying to get the clinic onroad. With the lockdown easing out, equipment purchases are being made to comply with

strict governmental guidelines for surgeries in the post Covid era.

There is no doubt that Shera acted very impulsively in sending that mail. And I do not think he did the right thing.

After all such an e mail is only sent very impulsively and there must have been a provocation which made him act so. 

I am sure he  felt bad about it later. Shera surely did not consult me before posting the mail.

As for me and my representatives, we have been so busy in work, that if you see the forum, we have not been too active in the past around 2 years promoting the clinic.

Shera has been on the other hand following up on queries and lending support to those here who needed it.

Not that I have  not  been in touch with the patient personally.

We have several e-mail exchanges to-and-fro and I have supported him throughout the journey.

Cases do have outcomes like in his case and I have informed him that if ever he wishes, he could come over and I will do the repair.

Changing a surgeon every time you get a result which is sub par is not in your best interest.

Rest assured we do not work casually and do have a track record of giving results that have been praised very often on this Forum.

With one case a day, all care possible is imparted  to the patient.

And we do repair bad cases all the time. You can check-

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/profile/11162-dr-tejinder-bhatti/?tab=field_core_pfield_10

His is a redo case and one cannot always correctly assess the level of scarring when a patient is from  abroad.

(Also, in such cases 100% satisfaction never happens, it not being virgin skin.)

I do now understand his case well and empathise with him fully.

The clinic he is presently consulting with and which guides him, will only win brownie points through him!

Also, it is me who is more pained for him than he himself is. An unhappy patient is not a good thing to have. But then there are limits to which we can go to help.

We do not do backstage deals with unhappy patients and move on. Every thing is in the open.

Such threads have great utility on this forum and help patients in understanding that surgical hair restoration is not a perfect science.

There are a host of parameters not in the doctor's control. 

This said, I apologise to the community that this sordid saga had to happen; and that it was a  genuine impulsive mistake on the part of Shera.

 I know it undermines the prestige of my clinic which has taken a nasty hit.

But we will work tirelessly to set our reputation back on rail on this prestigious highly regarded Forum.

For now, I have a governmental inspection before we start work and i have to leave.

I remain committed to my patients like always.

Stay safe.

4 hours ago, Pangloss said:

I hope that the Sikhs will stop tying those knots in their hair. Has anyone talked to them about the problem?

Its a tight knot that causes the problem. Otherwise a man bun is very much in fashion!

Hairlines are challenging to restore due to scarring under the skin.

See- 

On 4/25/2020 at 4:16 AM, Shera said:

Thanks for pointing that out, I've actually seen that pic on many public domains but I will cross reference your query with Dr Bhatti all the same.

Patients often consult a host of doctors  before they go for a procedure.

Most patients shown here have had their procedures done with me ( as is evident in the picture backgrounds) and detailed individual procedures are available in the Youtube Playlist- 

Thanks for following our posts.

Thanks for posting. Hope you are well and safe.

On 10/6/2019 at 9:44 AM, rony05 said:

I had my transplant with Dr Bhatti in July 2018.

The experience was very professional.  Dr Bhatti and all associated medical staff were all extremely professional, polite and courteous throughout the whole experience.  I noticed the attention to detail they had, and also how much of an emphasis they had on cleanliness and safety (everyone wore masks, gloves, gowns etc).

I was kept well informed through the entire procedure, and all my questions were answered.

It's now been just over a year, and I'm very happy with the results. My current pictures are attached.

Cheers

r05

Thank you for posting your 15 month final result , rony05.

Per your request your before pictures are attached.

We had initially planned for 3500 scalp grafts for full coverage on online consultation.

However, during the preop consultation, it was noted that the scalp donor would not support that number.

2953 scalp grafts (singles- 414, Doubles- 2218 and Triples/Quads- 321) were harvested and strategically placed to cover maximum bald spots.

Our philosophy is maximal coverage with minimal grafts.

All grafts harvested were in anagen phase hence the result with even fewer number of grafts.

I will advise you to take Propecia in low dosage now.

I feel you are the right candidate for Propecia. Have seen many patients like you who have benefited immensely with it.

Hair transplant is always an option.

1 hour ago, yesplease said:

Thank you for continuing to follow up, I’m sure it’s highly appreciated by everyone. So many disappear from the forums  post-HT.

did you end getting a 2nd HT in 2017?

how significant was the thinning behind the first HT/hairline? Any photos of that “transition zone” between the HT hair and the progressive MPB zone?

thanks again!

@yespleaseThanks for the interest.

Till such time that 'bablu' posts a reply to your query, you may like to see this video in a Caucasian patient who is now booked for his 5th! ☺️

Everyone knows how the patient per doctor ratio has been decreasing the world over since 2017 and cost per graft has been plummeting!  

Clinics today are fighting with their backs to the wall to sustain their bottom lines. 

Hence they more often than not quote fantastic figures of as much as 6-10,000 in the first session itself for Grade V baldness, unmindful of the patients' long term objectives.

The fact of the matter is that you could either have all 6000 -10,000 in one go or plant them strategically as baldness evolves and areas that need more are determined as time passes (as progress of bald area patterns is unpredictable)

For placing ridiculous graft numbers in the first session itself, when baldness progression is not known, is mere commercial expediency. I have been often castigated for this approach on this forum but having been in practice for over 20 years, I have my own philosophy of hair transplant, and it has stood me in good stead, safeguarding (as foremost) the interests of the patients I treat. 

You can see many such examples of 'graft loading' on this forum, especially since the past 1-2 years.

This is a trend that is growing and will not stop.

In this environment what would you think of this patient who has been returning for 4 procedures since 2010 from outside India, and is booked for his 5th, later this month!?!

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WATCH HIS VIDEO

And do let me know your thoughts.

3 hours ago, MiamiCurls said:

Hi

I  wanted to post a follow  up to my original thread, two years and three months after my initial visit to Dr. Bahtti's clinic. With plenty of time to gather my thoughts and appreciate the full results I have put into words all that I've been able to gather in this journey. I hope it serves you well in your own:

Good hair restoration is an artform. All great works of art have one thing in common, they were not created in one day, they evolve through time. From Michelangelo's David to da Vinci's Monalisa they were all the product of progressive work.

The same applies to a great hair restoration, this is one of the most important lessons I have learned during this journey.

 Two years ago I underwent a successful 2100 grafts FUE procedure with Dr Bhatti, the results were impressive, as evidenced on my previous post. During my consultation with Dr Bhatti I asked him to take a "less is more" approach in order to safeguard as much of the donor area resources as possible for when I had a chance to experience the transplanted hair growth and understand the best ways to style it (remember you can always add more but once it has been transplanted you can't turn back and the donor area resources are a limiting factor). So, after a year of enjoying his work and becoming acquainted with the looks of different lengths and stylings I had a clear idea of what could make it look even better than it already did. It basically came down to accentuating the windows peak area, since it was a defining feature of my hairline in my early 20's and to maximize the density so that I could also wear my hair very short and the areas with original and transplanted hair would look as equally dense as possible. I have a protruded forehead and the peak makes it look much smaller and balances my facial proportions.

Last May I contacted his office to make arrangements for another procedure, and to my surprise Dr Bhatti gladly agreed to perform it free of cost as a retouch because the hairline he drew on the first consultation took that area into account. Even then I was a bit in doubt if it was really necessary, to me that is testament to how good his initial work was. I've always been told that I have a baby face appearance therefore a more aggressive hairline doesn't look awkward, especially since he had brought my temples forward on the first procedure. I was looking forward to share the result with the doctor and his team as I was so grateful what they had done for me. The protocol was the same as in my first visit, this time they even assisted me with the arrangements for accommodation. His driver picked me up at the hotel the morning after my arrival and took me to their new facilities, a state of the art dedicated medical services building. Upon seeing their faces I couldn't help but smile, at that point no word could express my gratitude. We had a brief consultation where Dr Bhatti listened carefully to my feedback, he explained his plan, documented the results and proceeded to prep my head by trimming my hair very short. The plan was to add 500 grafts to the frontal hairline and the widow's peak.

The procedure went as uneventful as the first, his team showing again a high level of skill and professionalism. As in the first procedure, Dr Bhatti did the anesthesia and harvesting of grafts. After a short breakfast break Dr Bhatti made the slits and this took around 20 mins. The old team of my previous procedure did the plantation. Well co-ordinated with Dr Bhatti supervising the plantation every now and then and enquiring about my comfort. The plantation Once done they covered my head and got me to eat some lunch. After that it was time to reveal the grafted area, clean the donor area and bandage my head, once again I was blown out of the water as the amount of work he puts in is so evident, opposed to the doctor who did my botched procedure in the USA. Once completed the driver took me back to my hotel. Next morning I was picked up and taken to the clinic for the removal of the bandages, a final documentation of his work and to go over the care instructions and receive the care kit. I had decided that this time I wanted to stay at the villa the clinic offers for post-op recovery in Kasauli, one of the hill stations adjacent to Chandigarh, an elegant and peaceful retreat that includes a lovely lady that cooks deliciously and cleans for you. At USD 25 a day it is worth every penny. After spending a few days there resting and exploring the hill station I was ready to hit the road, but before returning to the US it was time to make the most of my trip by enjoying some sightseeing, this year it was time to explore Amritsar, home to the Golden Temple. India is such a big country with such rich and complex history that you barely can scratch the surface in just one visit. I know I will be back. Dr Bhatti and his team are like distant relatives to me now, anytime I look at myself in the mirror I can't help but think about them and how much they've done for me.
A few last thoughts two years into this journey. Number one, trust Dr Bhatti and his work and don't cheap out on the PRP therapy that he is advocating as it is an essential element in the transplant result's success. Second, as one would be tempted to get every single possible hair grafted in one shot, the true artform lies in the work not being detected, specially by those who know you. I have noticed in the last two years friend commenting in social media about people they know who have gotten work done and they poke fun at the fact that they can tell they've had work done due to a combination of unesthetic looking and excessive restoration, in my case the only comment I've received in numerous times has been that I don't seem to age, a testament to his work, a boost of confidence to me and a win for all.

Thanks a lot. Happy for you.

On 9/25/2015 at 4:53 AM, SunSeeker said:

Hi steph13. Thanks for writing up your story. I have never thought of using smp tattooing with fue before. Cool idea. I see that you said you would not have been satisfied with only fue hair transplant. Do you have any pictures of your fue grown out without the smp? I am researching fue and all of this is really helpful. Thanks.

If I am not wrong these may be the pictures. SMP has come a long way and we do SMP in our clinic routinely for difficult cases where there is not enough hair for coverage.

On 10/5/2015 at 6:22 PM, FUE2014 said:

Dr Bhatti a couple of surgeons before (Dr Armani and I think Dr Feller) have claimed that clippers can cause traction alopecia by pulling on the grafts. What is your take on this and what are your instructions to your patients about shaving the recipient area post op?

Sorry for missing this one out!

Yes, any form of sustained pull/traction can cause traction alopecia. The commonest examples are Sikhs who tie a tight top bun and African ladies who tight braid their hair.

Thanks for the query and apologies for the inordinate delay.

16 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

This seems odd, was there a promise to pay? How was he able to leave without fully paying? 

@Lennney

were you given a receipt? This is a big accusation and I agree if proven false this is no doubt slander.

Hi Melvin, I am to board a flight at 12 noon, 10 minutes from now. The office will share the details of pending payments with Shera my representative, who I will request to post  here. I will be away till Monday.

Only my representative shall be continuing this thread on my behalf.

10 minutes ago, Drhairloss said:

@Melvin-Moderator 

I paid cash, and obviously he does not give receipts in his clinic, that's why came up now with this silly joke. 

I also paid for the medications and got no receipts, did I take it and ran ?! 

I did a follow up every day during my stay, would he do a follow up for a patient who did not pay for surgery?

In his last email speaking about the hotel expenses, it is obvious I had no remaining bills, he should have thought twice before this childish accusations. 

New patients going to him, should take care to insist taking receipts, even if he refuses or asks for extra money. In India if they give you receipts, they are supposed to pay taxes !  

This is another slander.

You are speaking to the doctor who pays the highest tax in India in the field of hair restoration. And this can be proved.

I wonder if any patient of mine till date has not been given a receipt.

If you had paid money, you would have surely insisted on a receipt.

Are you so naive? No, you aren't!

Ask him to post the receipts of payments made. 

I am curious to know what he will say to that.

12 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

@Dr Tejinder Bhatti 

Dr. Bhatti, if you’re going to post emails, please remove personal information from the posts. While, these allegations have been made public, we don’t need to know his personal information to see the responses. 

KIndly delete the portion you feel goes against the forum's conscience.

How can you have a person anonymously slander my reputation here and blackmail me on this platform without talking to him privately  and getting to the root of the problem?

This is unacceptable to me.

Hi to all !

This year he contacted me on 10 May, 2019.

The whole thread copied below is the conversation between him and myself without any editing.

His bills are still pending and we shall soon start the legal process to retrieve our loss.

I am posting this here to retrieve my image which he has tried to so easily sully.

11 hours ago, jj51702 said:

Maybe a copy of the email vs a receipt of the bill(s) you were charged. 

Hi Melvin,

Thank you for the permission to post emails. Contents of 2017 communication are in the post below. 

This matter has to be sorted out here itself since he is the one who started the thread to blackmail my practice. Lest forum members get suspicious and believe his statement that matters get sorted out underhand on this forum! And this is a common feeling the members have and he has sought to take advantage of.

I have tried explaining to this patient several times that the 3 day cost (the only issue he had) for the hotel is not on us. 

This is not the core issue, however. He needs me to waive off the amount pending from him. And this I will not do!

The entire conversation with this client has been on mail and there is no way he can escape it. He is just bargaining. And every time I post he edits the content of his previous post here on this thread. 

Never come across a doctor who will behave this way. We were totally caught unawares.

I am copying his first email to my representative Shera in Aug 30, 2017 and Shera's reply to him in great detail (after this I will post a tabulated page to show the whole conversation in one document ever since he again contacted this year)-

From: darlingbudsuk@gmail.com

Dear 

Thanks again for contacting me with regards to your interest in a further hair restoration surgery following your initial surgery of 3500 grafts in Turkey 3 years ago.

After examining your photos, Dr Bhatti has noticed that you have been clearly over-harvested in your last procedure.

Therefore the scalp will need to be dealt with care and Dr Bhatti does not feel he will be able to extract more than 1200-1500 scalp grafts. However, Dr Bhatti will try to get as many grafts from the scalp as possible without compromising your donor area any further.

Dr Bhatti also mentioned that SMP could improve the look of your donor area even with your present condition, I can discuss this with you further if need be.

Besides the scalp grafts, Dr Bhatti will be able to harvest 600-800 beard grafts from the underside shadow area of your chin and a further 200 grafts from your chest area.

That’s potentially 2500 grafts which should give you good density along the hairline and mid scalp with the remaining grafts to be used for the crown if available. Again graft placement can be discussed further.

The procedure itself will be completed in a day.

You are requested to visit the clinic for a post-op consultation a day before the procedure date where Dr Bhatti will assess you in person and then agree and finalise the proposed surgery, discuss the hairline/proposed procedure and answer any further queries in person.

At all times you will be accompanied to the clinic by a member of staff until you feel you are comfortable venturing out on your own. At the clinic you are very likely to meet up with other patients and find a friend or two to share your experience with. When I was there, patients were from Singapore, London and Colorado. If you wish I could try to hook you up with other patients there so you can share your experiences.

Moving onto the costs, the premium package will include pick-up and drop off from Chandigarh airport and other extras detailed in the link below,

http://www.darlingbudsindia.com/hair-transplant-cost

You will also find a live currency convertor on that page.

So assuming that Dr Bhatti completes the full 1500 scalp grafts and 1000 beard/chest grafts as recommended, the actual procedure costs will be as follows,

Costings

Please note that all prices are governed by the current exchange rate at the time of payment. As such the price in Indian Rupees will always take precedence over other currencies.

Premium Package

The total cost for the Premium package will be 351,050 Indian Rupees which currently equates to €4,588.37.

A 20% deposit of 70,210 Indian Rupees currently €917.67 is required to book the procedure date and the subsequent amount of 280,840 Indian Rupees currently €3,670.70 is to be paid prior to the procedure being carried out usually at the post consultation stage a day before surgery.

NB The quoted Euro values are valid for 5 days only, due to fluctuating currency exchange rates.

The deposit amount is required to book the procedure date. It is highly likely that a preferred date will be taken by another patient if you do not pay a confirmation deposit in time. It is highly advisable to only book flights once a date is agreed. 

It is acceptable to settle the bill in either currency. Credit and Debit cards are accepted but you may want to clear with your bank or credit card company first. Also, please check the charges, there is a 2.5% charge on some credit cards. There is no longer an option to pay in cash due to India’s new strict monetary rules.

If for any reason, the number of grafts utilised are less than proposed, then you will be refunded that amount post procedure, if you utilise more grafts then the final bill will be adjusted to reflect this.

Medications, Pre-existing conditions and Inoculations.

Also it would be wise to consult your GP/doctor who will advise of any inoculation you will require before visiting India.

Getting to Chandigarh

Airport pick-up and drop off from Chandigarh airport will be arranged with one of Dr Bhatti's drivers, this is included in the premium package. I will need your flight details and a good clear recent facial picture for the taxi pick-up sign the driver will hold up at arrivals.

If you decide to fly to Delhi, then airport pick-up from there will be an additional €45, it is a 4-5 hour drive to Chandigarh, so unless you really feel you would like to experience Indian roads at least once in your lifetime then it may be wiser to arrange a connecting flight to Chandigarh for a little extra.

You will be able to arrange the connecting flight from the UK or online. (See https://book.goindigo.in/, www.spicejet.com)  Carriers that have been used recently by patients include Air India, Emirates, Virgin/Jet Airways and KLM. You may want to avoid school holidays to avoid paying hiked up prices for your journey.

Another essential thing you will need is a flight pillow, this will especially come in handy when sleeping post op night, you can usually pick these up at supermarkets, chemists or Amazon (see link below).

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008RVNTMK/ref=twister_B008V9LR9U?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Drugs

The following drugs are recommended ;

Minoxidil 5mg Foam/lotion (late evening)   

Biotin 5mg (early morning)                 

Fin 1mg (early morning)                  

Dr Bhatti's clinic can get these for you; it costs around 5,500 Indian Rupees (approx. €65, about 15% of the EU cost) for a 6 month supply. Many patients opt to get a years supply.

Hotel Stay in Chandigarh

Also I would personally advise you to stay in Chandigarh for 2 - 5 days post op to relax and recover and explore. However you are free to leave the day after the procedure once you have been checked out by Dr Bhatti and your dressings have been removed.

Following removal/swapping of the dressings the day after the procedure you will receive detailed post op care advice from Dr Bhatti and clinic staff. You will be shown how to wash your hair and Dr Bhatti will personally provide you with aftercare advice.  You will be free to visit the clinic everyday for a hair wash, any other advice or even just for a coffee during your stay in Chandigarh. You will always be made to feel most welcome by all. There is no extra charge for this, it is all part of the aftercare service the clinic provides.

As for staying in Chandigarh, you have already told me you have friends there but in case you need a hotel to stay, the following is recommended.

The hotel Abs 17 is very local to the clinic and is where I stayed; the clinic will be able to book a room there for you at a discounted rate at 2575 Indian rupees (approx. €34.00) per night. The hotel room is comfortable on a par with a UK/US Travelodge with air con, en-suite with free coffee/tea making facilities. Also it has satellite TV, the Star Sports Channel shows live Premier league games and cricket and there is Wi-Fi so you can make free calls through whatsapp.

I would advise at least 2 nights stay in this hotel, pre procedure night and post procedure night. Personally I stayed here for the seven nights I was in Chandigarh; I found it to be a good comfortable and affordable base.

The prices quoted are final; there will be no other added costs.

Contact Numbers

Some useful numbers that you will need to put in your phone are

Darling Buds Clinic

tel.     +91 1724018140

tel.     +91 7307171688

mob    +91 9814531111

Of course, I will be available on the phone/whatsapp/wechat at any time during your stay.

The Darling Buds clinic is located in Sector 17; the clinic is located above the Hot Millions 1 restaurant.

The ABs 17 hotel is located above the Hot Millions 2 restaurant within 5 minutes walking distance, again in Sector 17.

Sector 17 has many shops, a few bars and many restaurants/eateries for you to enjoy, I will expand upon this if need be nearer to your procedure date.

Indian Visa

Another thing you will need is a visa, the Indian eVisa system was extended to include the UK in August 2015, the link to the application site is below.

https://indianvisaonline.gov.in/visa/tvoa.html

Please read the information very carefully before applying.

It will be best to apply about 10 days before flying out, just to be on the safe side (also depends on the length of stay, maximum 60 days from visa issue date).

I have just completed a visa for a patient; I applied for it online on a Friday morning and it was received by the patient by email less than 48 hours later. It can be a bit fiddly online when uploading your photo and copies of your passport so I could do this for you after you partially complete the form online and then pass me the reference to add my bits and submit. The cost of the visa is currently approx. €65.

The type of visa to apply for will be a medical tourist visa, this is a new concept recently introduced and you will need a medical invitation letter from the clinic.  I will supply you with a detailed guide with step by step instructions on completing the on line form nearer the date. I will check the information entered and I will even complete and submit it for you should you have any difficulty.

PRP Option

There is also the option of having a course of Platelet Rich Plasma Therapy (PRP) prior to surgery.

The cost for this is an additional 15,000 Indian Rupees (approx €200), considering this treatment costs £800 a go in western countries, it is worth having a think about it. PRP will theoretically help your scalp recover from surgery and provide a boost to your newly implanted grafts.

To Proceed

The next step is for you to let me know what date you prefer and I will check availability. We can give you some available dates 1 – 2 months in advance but if you choose you own specific date then it may well have to be booked a bit longer in advance due to limited availability.

Dr Bhatti personally completes each procedure, therefore is usually fully booked way in advance.

Once we have agreed upon a date, then you will need to pay the deposit within 5 days to hold that date.

From there I will personally guide you through your HT journey.

That should be everything covered for now, once you have had the time to read through this email, I would appreciate it if you could contact me to discuss any other queries you may have.

I look forward to hearing from you.

(No, I am not reporting this Post, Dr Al-B.

You forgot to mention you are a part time hair transplant doctor yourself!)

After over a 100 cordial mail exchanges and numerous phone calls since 2017 (before his Turkey procedures) and a difficult revision procedure meticulously done, this is what the Clinic gets in return! Slander and blackmail for unpaid bills.

However, it is not that I was not expecting this esp. from a patient like him who still has an unpaid bill. We have been waiting for him to transfer the remaining amount and he chooses to blackmail us.

Also, there is a reason we ask for an advance for confirming a booking, and we do not ask much- just USD 200. He was not willing to part with it.

He did tell me he was a doctor (wanting a professional courtesy) after which I gave him the Summer Offer of a dollar a graft from scalp (not body). The sequence is there in the email thread which I will post if anyone wants me to. (This has to have the express permission of the moderators of the Forum.)

Pending that, I am just posting this patient’s comments the day after the procedure. Since we did not part bill him before the procedure on his request, the whole list of complaints and unfulfilled promises emerged gradually over the 5 days he was in Chandigarh after his procedure.

To say that I charge patients differently is a blatant lie since all patients this month have paid what is listed on the website unless it is an old patient who gets a small discount of 10%.

As far as not taking verbal consent for inserting an intravenous line goes, the girls sometimes presume that since the consent to shave the area while putting the IV line in difficult cases has been signed, they just mention it before doing the shave. All his veins were thrombosed and it was a real effort to find a vein. All staff are over 25. Being in the medical profession he should know the entry level to a nursing degree is 18 years. The earliest one becomes a qualified nurse is 22.

Also I am posting his pictures of 2 previously done procedures at his partner’s clinic in Turkey. I will post more later. This is why his ‘doctors’ there are #1. So much scarring in the donor that it is plastered and stuck to the cranium. He should have chosen a better Turkey clinic for himself. There are good ones there too.

For such a difficult revision case he has been bargaining to not pay even the rock-bottom discounted price quoted.

I have all of this patient’s e-mails with me which can be forwarded on this forum if the moderator permits.

Both previous procedures done at rock bottom rates in technician clinics with hotel stay, airfare, food and transportation thrown in!

We at Darling Bus Clinic take great pride in our work and this is borne out of years of dedicated hard work & single minded passion. Patients mean the world to us and we go the extra mile to care for them in every which way we can. If there were a patient who genuinely could not pay the amount due, we would have helped him out. However, this guy has been given a huge discount, and he is a practising doctor!

This case here is an aberration.

Thanks for updating.

I advise Propecia only for 6 months after which patients stop it. Even he did stop at 6 month mark.

Thank you for your interest in the case.

Thank you for posting your final result.

I am happy for you.