36y/o seeking opinions!

[Aogl]

Hello, I have been in contact with different HT-cliniks here in Sweden and gotten different awnsers as to what can be done with my hair situation.So I wanted to hear what peopel in here think.I started Finasterid like six weeks ago hoping to strenghten the donor area and reverse the thinning crown dipping down into the donor.

So, do you guys believe that HT can work for me or is it a lost case?I can add that there is a number of beard hairs to that I could part with but no clinic in Sweden does that. Only avalable tretment here is regular FUE.
I can live with a bald crown, mainly want to get something that poses as a hairstyle to cover upp the two first thirds of the head and frame the face.

Thanks for any reply!

[mr_peanutbutter]

you are a very advanced norwood

i think you should go with clinics that are specialised on high norwoods such as

 

pittella (brazil)

zarev (bulgaria)

eugenix (india)

and to a certain degree hdc in cyprus

[Aogl]

1 hour ago, mr_peanutbutter said:

you are a very advanced norwood

i think you should go with clinics that are specialised on high norwoods such as

 

pittella (brazil)

zarev (bulgaria)

eugenix (india)

and to a certain degree hdc in cyprus

Thanks for replying. Dr Zarev is closest to me but his prices was monsterous coming in at 9 EUR/USD per graft, that would be like two years salery for the procedior of say 5k grafts. Cant realy afford that tbh..

[GoliGoliGoli]

In my opinion you are not a good candidate unless you have VERY conservative expectations. If I had to guess Zarev would reject you as a patient =/ 

[Aogl]

8 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

In my opinion you are not a good candidate unless you have VERY conservative expectations. If I had to guess Zarev would reject you as a patient =/ 

Thanks for replying. 
Im sorry to hear this but m hoping the finasterid will changes the equation for me.
Also im pretty conservative, im willing to accept a bald crown, just wanting to have some kind of hairstyle on top and pretty fine with it beeing sparse.
Altho not at all fine with Zarev´s prices lol. 9EUR/graft is alot

[GoliGoliGoli]

I heard Zarev was like 5 euro per graft but I could be totally wrong. 

The thing is in your case, Fin might help, but I still think your donor is too sparse to consider a HT even if you're very conservative. 

I don't mean to be a buzkill, but I think a HT would be a big mistake for you. You seem to have signifigant thinning in your "Safe donor" area, so even if you moved the hairs from there to the front I'm not sure they would survive long term. 

[BaldReaper]

your donor is inappropriate for an ht

[Britanium]

I don't think you're a candidate for a hair transplant. Advanced Norwood with what appears to be multiple issues with a very narrow band of what even could be remotely usable for you're particular "Safe" donor zone. 

Be wary of clinics that will just accept you and just tell you what you want to hear. @DrMunibAhmad

 

Edited December 20, 2023 by Britanium

[jjalay]

You should take finasteride for at least 12 months and then reasess your situation. Your donor right now looks really sparse and you are not a goog candidate fot ht.

[mr_peanutbutter]

i dont see it as bad as the others 

 

with beard pittella and eugenix got good results in similar cases

[Aogl]

2 hours ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

I heard Zarev was like 5 euro per graft but I could be totally wrong. 

The thing is in your case, Fin might help, but I still think your donor is too sparse to consider a HT even if you're very conservative. 

I don't mean to be a buzkill, but I think a HT would be a big mistake for you. You seem to have signifigant thinning in your "Safe donor" area, so even if you moved the hairs from there to the front I'm not sure they would survive long term. 

He bumped it to 9 as of right now looking at his website.
Would a good respons to finasterid changes this, maybe that and the option of taking beard hairs could give me hope for the future.
 

[Aogl]

1 hour ago, Britanium said:

I don't think you're a candidate for a hair transplant. Advanced Norwood with what appears to be multiple issues with a very narrow band of what even could be remotely usable for you're particular "Safe" donor zone. 

Be wary of clinics that will just accept you and just tell you want you want to hear. @DrMunibAhmad

 

Yeh, I have gotten alot of offers from clinics saying 2000-2500 grafts for the front of my head is doable but I have gotten a feeling that some of them want to sell me on the procidiure like a pitch.

All in all I would be fine with a hairstyle like a NW 3-3,5 or the like. 

[Britanium]

4 minutes ago, Aogl said:

Yeh, I have gotten alot of offers from clinics saying 2000-2500 grafts for the front of my head is doable but I have gotten a feeling that some of them want to sell me on the procidiure like a pitch.

All in all I would be fine with a hairstyle like a NW 3-3,5 or the like. 

Very few Dr's could achieve a reasonable result, the ones that are worth consulting with would be @DrMunibAhmad

@Dr. Felipe Pittella

And then Dr Zarev, however he's booked out for years already. Staying on Fin is absolute essential, giving it at least 12 months before considering going ahead with a procedure. Yes beard grafts are a invaluable source for high Norwood levals but it's important to have enough scalp hairs too. 

[GoliGoliGoli]

44 minutes ago, Aogl said:

He bumped it to 9 as of right now looking at his website.
Would a good respons to finasterid changes this, maybe that and the option of taking beard hairs could give me hope for the future.
 

Personally, even if you were a super-responder to finasteride I still don't think you're a good candidate 

[Aogl]

6 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

Personally, even if you were a super-responder to finasteride I still don't think you're a good candidate 

Are you basing that on a vision of full head of hair? I do feel ok with something that covers the main part of the scalp and that can be sparse

[ScottishGuy21]

54 minutes ago, Britanium said:

Very few Dr's could achieve a reasonable result, the ones that are worth consulting with would be @DrMunibAhmad

@Dr. Felipe Pittella

And then Dr Zarev, however he's booked out for years already. Staying on Fin is absolute essential, giving it at least 12 months before considering going ahead with a procedure. Yes beard grafts are an invaluable source for high Norwood levals but it's important to have enough scalp hairs too. 

Should also mention at the reported €9 a graft you’d probably also be looking at €80-€100 k with Zarev . So you’d also need very deep pockets.

[Britanium]

6 minutes ago, ScottishGuy21 said:

Should also mention at the reported €9 a graft you’d probably also be looking at €80-€100 k with Zarev . So you’d also need very deep pockets.

Exactly that, even if he would take it on it would become very expensive fast. I'm not so sure any Dr is going to have a particularly great outcome here, and the only ones that should even be considered are going to come with a pretty hefty price tag. 

[SY7]

Maybe Bisanga, HDC or Sikos?

[Reecee]

Your donor is weak. Perhaps you could consider a transplant partly comprised of beard hair combined with SMP. You would have to keep your hair short but something is better than nothing

[Gatsby]

To be honest just going by the pics supplied I think your donor might be too sparse for surgery. You could possibly get away with some thin coverage on top but I would tread carefully and focus only on high Norwood surgeons. Shaving with/without SMP is not a bad option. 

[SY7]

So Zarev or Eugenix? And HDC and Sikos? Saw that they have experience too. Bisanga also did some higher Norwood cases I guess?

[Aogl]

Thank you all for replying.
I have gottin in contact with a clinic, one listed above as a good chioice, and they feel comfident that they can do 2500 grafts from my donor and 1500 from my beard.

My question to you all is of cource what do you think that 3,500 would do for me?

[BackFromTheBrink]

25 minutes ago, Aogl said:

Thank you all for replying.
I have gottin in contact with a clinic, one listed above as a good chioice, and they feel comfident that they can do 2500 grafts from my donor and 1500 from my beard.

My question to you all is of cource what do you think that 3,500 would do for me?

What are you planning to do with the extra 500?

In all seriousness, 4000 grafts would give a strong hairline, medium midscalp and would barely touch the crown. It all depends on what you would be satisfied with. 

[Britanium]

1 hour ago, Aogl said:

Thank you all for replying.
I have gottin in contact with a clinic, one listed above as a good chioice, and they feel comfident that they can do 2500 grafts from my donor and 1500 from my beard.

My question to you all is of cource what do you think that 3,500 would do for me?

Which clinic has said this? 

[SY7]

I think Sikos usually does 2 sessions of 2500 everytime, at least every guy in his website. And Eugenix and Zarev too expensive?