Dr Hakan Doganay 3367 grafts, 22nd Jan 2014, pros & cons, nerve pain! etc

[JohnnyDrama]

Hopefully you will have a satisfactory result. I had FUE done with him in Feb and have not been very pleased quite yet due to them not conveying what they had performed per my request and procedure plan. I will wait a while longer before I can fully assess the result.

 

I'd also be interested to hear exactly what you mean.

 

1 week ago you posted this

I just had over 3400 grafts performed by Dr. Hakan a little over a week ago. You should have no worry to wire the funds as I had concern as well but it went well. Good doctor, good staff, good accommodations…better than anything in the US, for sure.

 

which sounds quite the opposite to what you are feeling now.

 

What has changed since?

[CS88]

Yes, I said good doctor, but there is huge difference from great, right. Myself previously being in dentistry can attest to that with my experience for demand in aesthetics. Since I had a previous FUT done I somewhat knew what to expect. I wanted to correct what was done previously via FUT therefore decided on FUE after researching numerous dr.'s worldwide. Nothing has changed btw. I have been waiting to see how they would answer some of my concerns from what we had agreed upon prior to the surgery in placement of the graft locations and now I am not quite satisfied with what I have been told. I just received that response from them yesterday. I will wait patiently now to get Dr. Hakans thorough explanation and reasoning.

[johnny2000]

Yes, I said good doctor, but there is huge difference from great, right. Myself previously being in dentistry can attest to that with my experience for demand in aesthetics. Since I had a previous FUT done I somewhat knew what to expect. I wanted to correct what was done previously via FUT therefore decided on FUE after researching numerous dr.'s worldwide. Nothing has changed btw. I have been waiting to see how they would answer some of my concerns from what we had agreed upon prior to the surgery in placement of the graft locations and now I am not quite satisfied with what I have been told. I just received that response from them yesterday. I will wait patiently now to get Dr. Hakans thorough explanation and reasoning.

 

When you get the answer, Will you be kind enough to share it with us here?

[FUE2014]

Hopefully you will have a satisfactory result. I had FUE done with him in Feb and have not been very pleased quite yet due to them not conveying what they had performed per my request and procedure plan. I will wait a while longer before I can fully assess the result.

 

This is very worrying.

[Mickey85]

This is very worrying.

 

Indeed....

[voipman]

Could elaborate a little more CS88 on what you are not happy with as this is a concern to me as i will be having surgery in April.

 

Was this to fix a strip scar or poor scalp work ?

[FUE2014]

TBh, CS88 doesn't do the community any favours at all coming on here, expressing a problem with his procedure, but failing to elaborate on it....if you are waiting to hear from Dr Hakan first with an explanation, then it would have been prudent to have reserved judgement IMO before painting the surgery in a negative light.

[Mickey85]

TBh, CS88 doesn't do the community any favours at all coming on here, expressing a problem with his procedure, but failing to elaborate on it....if you are waiting to hear from Dr Hakan first with an explanation, then it would have been prudent to have reserved judgement IMO before painting the surgery in a negative light.

 

Very valid point. I think things should remain neutral until evidence and something of substance has been submitted. Until then....

[CS88]

@ FUE2014. My request from the start was to fill in the crown. Some work was done on the strip scar as well. After surgery it was tough to see exactly how low the area of the crown (vertex)was filled in but apparently it was not. I will have to wait now after growth to see how it all fills in but based on the post op photo it will require another surgery of which I am not very excited about. My goal was to have accomplished my goal this time around based on the estimated 3500 grafts. The Dr. is working on this with me presently and has been responsive to my concerns.

[fueman]

@ FUE2014. My request from the start was to fill in the crown. Some work was done on the strip scar as well. After surgery it was tough to see exactly how low the area of the crown (vertex)was filled in but apparently it was not. I will have to wait now after growth to see how it all fills in but based on the post op photo it will require another surgery of which I am not very excited about. My goal was to have accomplished my goal this time around based on the estimated 3500 grafts. The Dr. is working on this with me presently and has been responsive to my concerns.

 

i hope everything works out good for you at the end, you'll know in a few months if it gives you the coverage you are looking for

[fueman]

Fueman - how hands on was Dr Doganay during the op, did he implant all the grafts himself, or did the techs do it ?

 

i was knocked out so have to take the surgery's word for it... he doesn't do the extractions but implants all the grafts himself

[fueman]

Hello there.

Congratulations with your HT.

Is it normal to use gas to numb the patients?

Or did the doc ask you if you want it?

Also how Many grafts have you Got?

 

for me as it was a large procedure in one day, it was important to be under general anesthetic... however i was not gassed! lol for me it was by injection...

 

i was told they give that option to the patients to choose if they want local or general anesthetic? personally i would prefer local - that way you are awake and know who is doing what

[fueman]

Hey buddy. Looks good.

Are you saying those who mention you hairloss first find out you have hairloss now?

I mean it was not so difficult to see before your HT, unless you used to hide it with concealer.

 

Hi Mate

 

my hair loss before although was there it was not too apparent... the pics i put in my opening post were to show the extent of my hair loss, but when i covered up it was much better...

 

I've added a few pics so you know what i mean:

[CS88]

i hope everything works out good for you at the end, you'll know in a few months if it gives you the coverage you are looking for

 

I appreciate that, thanks. It was decided I go back to Turkey to have that corrected and will leave shortly. Better to do it quick as it can still be done at this stage than wait another six months. The Dr. was very accommodating and willing to take care of it.

[Mickey85]

@ FUE2014. My request from the start was to fill in the crown. Some work was done on the strip scar as well. After surgery it was tough to see exactly how low the area of the crown (vertex)was filled in but apparently it was not. I will have to wait now after growth to see how it all fills in but based on the post op photo it will require another surgery of which I am not very excited about. My goal was to have accomplished my goal this time around based on the estimated 3500 grafts. The Dr. is working on this with me presently and has been responsive to my concerns.

 

I wish you all the very best CS88. I do have to agree, I would not be particularly impressed about them forgoing to implant into an area that was requested prior to surgery... Good to hear the Doctor is giving you full attention now but you should have gotten that from the very beginning. Every patient should be given full attention to on the day of their surgery.

[CS88]

I wish you all the very best CS88. I do have to agree, I would not be particularly impressed about them forgoing to implant into an area that was requested prior to surgery... Good to hear the Doctor is giving you full attention now but you should have gotten that from the very beginning. Every patient should be given full attention to on the day of their surgery.

 

I appreciate that Mickey85. Trust me, I would not voice my opinion here if it was not for the good of anyone seeking top quality care. That was my frustration in thinking…did I miss in communicating something here? I did not want to be sold on something or accept less than what is asked for. The Doctor has a good reputation and what matters is how one handles a particular situation. Just unfortunate I have to fly back to Turkey so soon…that's life.

[Paulygon]

Congrats mate, I'd say the first week or so is tough going. I found it difficult to sleep and was itching like crazy but stick with it, it'll calm down in a few days.

 

 

I agree- the first week was a little itchy and my donor region (I did FUT) was a little numb.. but I've basically forgotten all about that... the results are worth that first week of annoyance (you'll just remember it as an annoyance).

[FUE2014]

I appreciate that Mickey85. Trust me, I would not voice my opinion here if it was not for the good of anyone seeking top quality care. That was my frustration in thinking…did I miss in communicating something here? I did not want to be sold on something or accept less than what is asked for. The Doctor has a good reputation and what matters is how one handles a particular situation. Just unfortunate I have to fly back to Turkey so soon…that's life.

 

CS88, thanks for your input and what a nightmare having to fly back. I trust they will not charge you foor the cost of the folllow-up?

[CS88]

CS88, thanks for your input and what a nightmare having to fly back. I trust they will not charge you foor the cost of the folllow-up?

 

 

You are correct on that. Lesson be learned…I wired 6000 Euros per their request prior to having any work done the first time around.

[voipman]

CS88 Do you still consider Dr Hakan with high regards as im to have surgery and im at a loss as to why you did not get what you required. Did it get lost in translation etc.

 

I guess as youre going back to him you must trust his skills.

 

Good luck for your next surgery

[CS88]

CS88 Do you still consider Dr Hakan with high regards as im to have surgery and im at a loss as to why you did not get what you required. Did it get lost in translation etc.

 

I guess as youre going back to him you must trust his skills.

 

Good luck for your next surgery

 

voipman…That was the same question I had as well. From the initial online consult the request was to fill in the crown and touch up the temples with estimates from numerous doctors at 2500 to 3500 grafts. I chose Dr Hakan wisely due to the initial communication, prior results and skill level. The decision was made apparently during the procedure to balance out the grafts to create a more natural appearance and even density, I guess thinking that the hair at upper area of crown may fall over the thin crown to conceal some of it. Maybe, if I wear my hair long but not with a shorter cut. No grafts were added to the lower portion of the crown. Regardless, I was puzzled. So perhaps it did get lost in translation, who knows, as we are all human. I still do have high regards in his skills and hope I can have a result one can be proud of.

 

*I wonder if many hair doctors use a PowerPoint type presentation as in dentistry with a template that would show the before and end result of the work to be done on the patient?

[voipman]

Well i must felicatate your approach as not to bring Dr Hakan into a negative view given your situation. Forums are too easy to voice negative views once behind the comfort of the keyboard

 

I have high hopes from this great Doctor and will follow your and hopefully post my good results

Edited March 11, 2014 by voipman

[Paulygon]

*I wonder if many hair doctors use a PowerPoint type presentation as in dentistry with a template that would show the before and end result of the work to be done on the patient?

 

I would love to know if this exists.. anybody aware of any surgeons providing "expected results" in the form of diagram or powerpoint? What an advantage that would provide to patients. Tho, I do understand Hair Restoration is artistry, and artistry is unpredictable to a degree

[Paulygon]

I would love to know if this exists.. anybody aware of any surgeons providing "expected results" in the form of diagram or powerpoint? What an advantage that would provide to patients. Tho, I do understand Hair Restoration is artistry, and artistry is unpredictable to a degree

 

The closest thing I've seen to this-- which is more of a step toward it -- is Doctor Mohebi's Hair Now app for iphone. You need to upload a current picture of yourself (this would be the BEFORE) and then you choose from a series of actual post-HT results (from Mohebi's past patients) and then the software automatically superimposes those AFTER hairstyles onto your head... thereby creating your AFTER result.

 

I hope the App can get more scientific than this.. and somehow actually create predictions for AFTER results tailored to your specific scalp... how cool would that be? Any tech-savvy people here have any thoughts on the possibility of that kind of software existing in the future? Man, I would invest in it..!

[CS88]

Well i must felicatate your approach as not to bring Dr Hakan into a negative view given your situation. Forums are too easy to voice negative views once behind the comfort of the keyboard

 

I have high hopes from this great Doctor and will follow your and hopefully post my good results

 

I think aesthetically demanding people push each other to improve and bring one another up rather than destroy with negativity. That is counter-productive. I wish you the result you desire from Dr. Hakan and enjoy your investment months from now.