any one had Dr. Richard Ochs beverly hills

[danoush]

Originally posted by dro:

Originally posted by Jamesisgoingbald:

Originally posted by danoush:

Please take my advice and choose another Dr.

 

even the best have of surgeons have disappointing results. good luck with your hair restoration.

 

Do NOT fall for his scam $2 per graft advertisement ( which he has now revised to $3 a graft) do not let Dr. Richard Ochs with offices in both Beverly Hills and Culver City take your hard working money and give you the worst result. Research and see what others say about this doctor ( except his associates who had a surgery with him, I am not able to find a single person saying that he did a good surgery) was unhappy with the result.

 

His ad reads:

Hair Transplant

15 yrs experience in Beverly Hills. Free Web Consult 1-866-HAIR-866

 

research and find a good Dr. . You will end up going to another dr and you will end up paying more anyway. why to waste your money then.

please take a look at the picture attached. I paid for 4000 grafts and here is what I received. By the way the picture is taken approximately 2 years after my first hair transplant by Dr. Ochs for 4000 grafts.

 

By the way I have already been tested for possible alopecia and the result was negative. I , therefore, know that this is caused by this terrible doctor

 

Dear Danoush,

 

I was about to call Dr. Ochs for my HT. I also saw his $3 per graft ad online and I decided to do a little search before making my final decision. it seems that I did the right thing. While searching, I came across another person who had surgery with Dr. Ochs. his 5 months posts up pictures are not as bad. I am afraid to do my ht and then look like you. I think that I am going to choose another Dr. Have you done any research to find out a better dr who is not expensive? I thought to ask as it seems that you had a bad experience. I was thinking about dr rassman.

 

I like his website photos. I just do not know if I get the same result If I do my operation with his coly as he charges more

 

I am not sure about how they do their HT. I just visited their website and the pictures looks more than perfect. but you may want to ask other people. I can not find a single forum complaining about their jobs. So I guess this means that they are not like Ochs.

 

Here are my suggestion to you:

1- Do not let Ochs do your sugery

2- read what you sign before signing it.

3- I do not know if every doctor makes their patients to sign arbitration agreement. research and if this is not the case, tell your doctor that you are not going to sign one.

4- Do not choose Ochs. so many people with bad experience.

 

take a look at this :

http://hair-restoration-info.c...881047143#4881047143

 

Same experience! In fact, identical to mine. Paid him for 4000 grafts and received allot less by Dr. Ochs.

[danoush]

Originally posted by dro:

Originally posted by danoush:

I just wanted to Dr. Ochs know that from this moment on, I will not accept any form of money, second procedure or anything. I did emailed him a week ago and since he did not reply, I decided to post this also here so he can not accuse me of black mailing him. I will continue sharing my story daily in every website and I will post my website links ( if the moderator here allows it) once it is ready. I am building a forum for those people who had trouble like me and I am dedicating a great portion of it to my experience with Dr. OChs terrible hair transplant.

 

 

danoush

unfortunately, your dondor hair did not respond well to your procedures and you suffered poor growth in spite of the number of grafts transplanted. should you ever change your mind I am will to perform a scar revision and another session in an attempt to correct your result.

 

As you can see per above, he is now offering me new HT session. as you all also know, it was because of this forum and your help that he decided to do another surgery.

I have a question, if you were me, after all this trouble would you let him to do another correction surgery? what would you do?

[dro]

Originally posted by dro:

Originally posted by danoush:

I just wanted to Dr. Ochs know that from this moment on, I will not accept any form of money, second procedure or anything. I did emailed him a week ago and since he did not reply, I decided to post this also here so he can not accuse me of black mailing him. I will continue sharing my story daily in every website and I will post my website links ( if the moderator here allows it) once it is ready. I am building a forum for those people who had trouble like me and I am dedicating a great portion of it to my experience with Dr. OChs terrible hair transplant.

 

 

danoush

unfortunately, your donor hair did not respond well to your procedures and you suffered poor growth in spite of the number of grafts transplanted. should you ever change your mind I am willing to perform a scar revision and another session in an attempt to correct your result.

[hairthere]

danoush, I would not return to this doc for another HT. Looking at your donor it doesn't seem you should have had a HT in the first place.

[BigBill1234]

I would agree. It is not worth any amount of money or free transplant to risk messing you up even more.

[danoush]

Dr. Ochs,

 

1- I strongly believe that the poor growth on the first HT was due to an error made by you and your staff as the second procedure was better than the first one. ( while still not good)

 

2- Unfortunately due to the above reason and due to the email exchange we recently had, I can not trust you as a Dr. anymore. Therefore, another procedure is not an option for me.

 

I already sent you an email and you said that you can not accept and I am not going to, therefore, accept anything. You may want to call me to discuss this.

 

I will continue to post and post on daily basis and I will let you know once the forum that I am building is ready. So far, it looks perfect

 

as you can see this terrible HT , so far, made you to lose more patients.

 

To remind you, here is what you have done to me:

[dro]

Originally posted by danoush:

Dr. Ochs,

 

1- I strongly believe that the poor growth on the first HT was due to an error made by you and your staff as the second procedure was better than the first one. ( while still not good)

 

2- Unfortunately due to the above reason and due to the email exchange we recently had, I can not trust you as a Dr. anymore. Therefore, another procedure is not an option for me.

 

I already sent you an email and you said that you can not accept and I am not going to, therefore, accept anything. You may want to call me to discuss this.

 

I will continue to post and post on daily basis and I will let you know once the forum that I am building is ready. So far, it looks perfect

 

as you can see this terrible HT , so far, made you to lose more patients.

 

To remind you, here is what you have done to me:

 

danoush

you are definitely in need of a scar revision before any additional transplants. My offer to do this will remain open.

[dro]

danoush

 

posting about the same negative experience on a daily basis as well as creating a web site about me, will not address your surgical needs. I understand that you are upset but please focus on your hair restoration and not your anger.

[Curious]

Dr. Ochs,

 

Why not refund him his money and let him have any additional surgery with a different doctor?

[danoush]

Originally posted by dro:

danoush

 

posting about the same negative experience on a daily basis as well as creating a web site about me, will not address your surgical needs. I understand that you are upset but please focus on your hair restoration and not your anger.

 

 

Dr. Ochs,

 

I really appreciate that you care about your patients like this! Unfortunately , there is no way that I let you cut my head again as I am not going to have any idea what am I going to look like after a year.

 

Based on your reply, I think, that this approach is simply your new way of pretending that you are a good Dr and that you care about your patients. I strongly believe that you do not mean what you are saying here.

 

Please prove me wrong! If you really meant it , you would not send this email:"> thank you for your offer to settle for a refund for 2000 grafts or 1/2 of

> the initial cost. Unfortunately I am unable to do so at this time.

>

> Also, you have already made blog entries defamitory to my reputation.

> which

> makes settlement useless to me.

>

> dr richard ochs d.o.

> hair restoration medicine & surgery

> 310-666-4334

"

[dro]

Originally posted by danoush:

Dr. Ochs,

 

1- I strongly believe that the poor growth on the first HT was due to an error made by you and your staff as the second procedure was better than the first one. ( while still not good)

 

danoush

my staff and I have performed over 5,000 procedures in 15 years. they are top notch. again you have suffered a rare complication through no fault of me or the staff

 

2- Unfortunately due to the above reason and due to the email exchange we recently had, I can not trust you as a Dr. anymore. Therefore, another procedure is not an option for me.

 

I already sent you an email and you said that you can not accept and I am not going to, therefore, accept anything. You may want to call me to discuss this.

 

I will continue to post and post on daily basis and I will let you know once the forum that I am building is ready. So far, it looks perfect

 

as you can see this terrible HT , so far, made you to lose more patients.

 

To remind you, here is what you have done to me:

[danoush]

you said:"danoush

my staff and I have performed over 5,000 procedures in 15 years. they are top notch. again you have suffered a rare complication through no fault of me or the staff"

 

1- Yes, who else can you blame? Lets not to go to that route. You are not suggesting that you never mentioned that you made a mistake of trying to cover a big area with 4000 grafts?

I wonder why after 15 years you did not know this.

 

2- You had two opportunities already. So , I regret to say that I do not agree to what you are saying. you already had your chance TWICE. If you want to perform another surgery, you would have to guarantee the result in writing. Otherwise, I simply want to go somewhere else to a Dr. that I can trust

 

all I am asking you to refund half of the money that I paid you. As you know and as you can see from the pictures, I even look worse than what I was before the HT. So to be fair, you actually have to reimburse the full amount plus the money damage you have done. I am not asking for any of this!!! I understand that you also spent your time and money. The procedure you have done, however, does not worth a penny to me.

[dro]

danoush

you have suffered from the rare complication of poor growth. I remain available to revise your scar and hair restoration.

[dro]

Originally posted by danoush:

Please take my advice and choose another Dr.

 

Do NOT fall for his scam $2 per graft advertisement ( which he has now revised to $3 a graft) do not let Dr. Richard Ochs with offices in both Beverly Hills and Culver City take your hard working money and give you the worst result. Research and see what others say

 

about this doctor ( except his associates who had a surgery with him, I am not able to find a single person saying that he did a good surgery) was unhappy with the result.

 

danoush

after may 15 years and 5,000 procedures < I am having no trouble finding happy patients. you suffered from the rare complication of poor growth. I remain available to revise your scar and your hair restoration

 

His ad reads:

Hair Transplant

15 yrs experience in Beverly Hills. Free Web Consult 1-866-HAIR-866

 

research and find a good Dr. . You will end up going to another dr and you will end up paying more anyway. why to waste your money then.

please take a look at the picture attached. I paid for 4000 grafts and here is what I received. By the way the picture is taken approximately 2 years after my first hair transplant by Dr. Ochs for 4000 grafts.

 

By the way I have already been tested for possible alopecia and the result was negative. I , therefore, know that this is caused by this terrible doctor

 

Picture is taken 2 years after a hair transplant done by Dr. Ochs for 4000 grafts

[danoush]

Dr Ochs:

 

I am sure that you searched other posts and you are aware of your terrible results:

 

here is another unhappy patient of yours:

 

"seems like he insert few grafts on the top of my head? not 4000 grafts. when i look at the mirror using another mirror i see all top like 98% is empty and there is no red spot tell me it was any grafts were inserted on my head."

 

and yet here is another post:"My husband had a surgery with him and the result is terrible. I do not recommend him at all whatsoever."

 

So what you call RARE is not rare. by the way go to www.drochssucks.com/forum

 

the forum is getting ready

[Forrest Gump]

Originally posted by danoush:

2- You had two opportunities already. So , I regret to say that I do not agree to what you are saying. you already had your chance TWICE.

 

As you know and as you can see from the pictures, I even look worse than what I was before the HT... The procedure you have done, however, does not worth a penny to me.

 

I have to go with danoush here. He definitely looks horrible. I don't know if the unfortunate results are due to any physiological flaws in his system or if it is due to inefficient surgical procedures, but the final results suck.

[dro]

Originally posted by danoush:

Dr Ochs:

 

I am sure that you searched other posts and you are aware of your terrible results:

 

here is another unhappy patient of yours:

 

"seems like he insert few grafts on the top of my head? not 4000 grafts. when i look at the mirror using another mirror i see all top like 98% is empty and there is no red spot tell me it was any grafts were inserted on my head."

 

and yet here is another post:"My husband had a surgery with him and the result is terrible. I do not recommend him at all whatsoever."

 

So what you call RARE is not rare. by the way go to www.drochssucks.com/forum

 

the forum is getting ready

 

danoush

the poster BIBARZ had more than 4000 grafts. he did suffer from post op effluvium and hair loss which made hime believe he did receive the approprite number of grafts.

 

perhaps it is time to take this matter to our attorneys. the web site drochssucks.com is the last straw !

[danoush]

Perhaps you want to reread the posts:"i see all top like 98% is empty and there is no red spot"

 

no red spot means no grafts.

 

I am ready to fight until the end. even If i have to spend so much more.

 

It is very interesting that one day you act like you are the best dr ever and the next day you show the true you.

 

I am sharing my terrible result to the world and I will not stop.

[dro]

Originally posted by danoush:

Perhaps you want to reread the posts:"i see all top like 98% is empty and there is no red spot"

 

no red spot means no grafts.

 

I am ready to fight until the end. even If i have to spend so much more.

 

It is very interesting that one day you act like you are the best dr ever and the next day you show the true you.

 

I am sharing my terrible result to the world and I will not stop.

 

 

Danoush

yes you will

[danoush]

You made one bad choice of trying to ignore me thinking that I would go away.

 

Now you are making the second choice of taking this to another route

 

just like I said, I will not stop:

 

drochssucks.com is not confusingly similar to your website;

* I have rights or legitimate interests in the name, ???to use it as a foundation for criticism??? of your bad hair surgery; and

* The domain name is neither registered nor used in bad faith.

 

I did my study prior to deciding what I want to do. and no I will not stop.

 

You may want to return my call so we can discuss.

[HughShaw]

This would be my worst nightmare after doing a HT. You truly have my sympathies and I truly hope you get justice after all is done!

[freakin]

One of many lessons to be learned from this newbies, would be to ask for any legal documents forthright. Request any papers that require your signature to be presented to your legal counsel (for interpretation and clarification) prior to making any commitment. The frequent M.O. is to present them minutes before you enter the surgical arena. Good luck brother, appreciate your candor.

[phil mascallpen]

Originally posted by dro:

the web site drochssucks.com is the last straw !

 

Wow if you're this upset about a website I wonder how you'd feel if someone butchered your head? BTW I think the name of his site is kind of tame. Maybe drochsslicedmymelonopenandleftmescarredforlife.com would be more accurate?

[Bill - Seemiller]

Ok guys...

 

I think this thread has run its course. Both the patient and physician has had plenty of time to say all they need to and then some. There's really no new information being presented and this thread has become destructive with patient and physician going back and forth with nothing but bullying and legal threats.

 

At the end of the day, I truly hope that Danoush can get over his anger and move on with his life. There are dozens of excellent physicians that can probably help him get his hair and his life back and I encourage him to consult with some of them.

 

I also encourage Danoush and Dr. Ochs to resolve their concerns privately, which will be far less stressful and more cost effective than doing so legally or via websites designed to harm someone.

 

But now it's time to lock this thread and move on to other important topics.

 

I also ask that nobody re-create a new topic on this issue. I appreciate everyone's understanding and cooperation on this.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill