Regular Member jc1052 Posted February 15, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hi ...I'm new to this forum/site and tried looking for the answer to my ? but couldn't.... so here it is. I'm looking to purchase a low level laser helmet. Does anyone have any experience with them? is one model better than the other ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted February 15, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2013 This type of therapy is still so new and ambiguous that there is very little if any evidence of one having more efficient results than the other. And they are very expensive to purchase to say the least. This is not to say that lasers have no place in treating hairloss. They are beneficial for other purposes in treating scalp discolorations, scarring, etc. And I am very careful as not to criticize any doctors that use them or recommend them. Someone has to establish this type of treatment and then provide the long term data right? Also be very careful of manufacturers' claims in the product literature. The FDA does not regulate them so there are no verifiable clinical trails from actual patients who use them. :rolleyes: Hopefully in the future there will be more verified data versus marketing. Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nativeremdies Posted February 15, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2013 It's the typical hairloss Maybe/Maybe not. The cost is too high for average joes to jump all over it. Then you have the nay sayers just for the fact its different. I have read about a few people saying they spent 2,000 to 7,000 going to laser therapy, and it did not work. But I think that is all suspect. Dateline said lasers work on hair, but then dateline rigs trucks to explode. FDA says lasers work on the hair, but then the FDA adds a new side effect to the Propecia bottle every year. Do a google search on "over macho grande laser" I never used it because of the cost. About 1,200. I bet you could find a used one.. I would love to try a run a 3 with a month laser. If they had a return policy I would have jumped all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nativeremdies Posted February 15, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2013 " Hopefully in the future there will be more verified data versus marketing." Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted February 15, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2013 " Hopefully in the future there will be more verified data versus marketing." Nope Would you please elaborate for us? Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nativeremdies Posted February 15, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2013 A couple of the doctors in your "Supporting Physicians:" offer laser therapy. Please ask them what they think about laser therapy, as they offer it. I want to think a laser solution works. I don't trust people's review of the laser comb, because I think people are lazy. A laser hat! I can see a normal lazy guy sitting there with a laser hat on, while jerking it to hot 5 on 1 action on pornhub (at least I would) So you would have a more consistent application I would love to to read one honest review from a sane normal person with no affiliation either way. Or that guy who does over macho grande, do a documented trial run to show it can work for someone. nativeremdies Super Patient Advocate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member greatjob Posted February 15, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 15, 2013 I used both laser comb and commercial laser therapy religiously in the past and I believe they are both garbage and a waste of time and money. I can accept that there may be some benefit in terms of wound healing which may make it beneficial after a transplant, but as far as treating mpb I think its a joke. I used the laser comb as recommended for over 6 months with no results. I was then offered laser light therapy in a clinical setting for free and I used it three times a week for almost a year with not benefit. Don't waste your time and money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nativeremdies Posted February 16, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2013 like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted February 16, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2013 Technically, the FDA never stated that low level laser therapy is an effective hair loss treatment. As I understand it, they labeled lasers as "safe" for a number of medical treatments in the 1970s, but never specifically said it's effective for hair loss. It seems like this label has been either misused or misunderstood for quite some time. As of now, we really don't have a lot of definitive information about the efficacy of the treatment. I've heard some reputable physicians state that LLLT has some application in female hair loss, and I hope we see some studies in the future reviewing this claim. In the meantime, I'd recommend individuals research proven treatments like minoxidil and finasteride. "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nativeremdies Posted February 17, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 17, 2013 I trust the FDA as much as I trust my the USDA, or my ex hooker girlfriend. My buddy took Propecia and it seriously F*** him up. He told me after a month on that drug, he felt like taking a 9mm to his own head. He is the most normal sane guy I have ever met, he smart, hot wife, awesome job, and balling $$. Just like to style his hair Then a couple years later, FDA adds depression to the label. Whatever, but the FDA approval doesn't mean jack or s*** in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted February 18, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 18, 2013 A couple of the doctors in your "Supporting Physicians:" offer laser therapy. Please ask them what they think about laser therapy, as they offer it. I want to think a laser solution works. I don't trust people's review of the laser comb, because I think people are lazy. A laser hat! I can see a normal lazy guy sitting there with a laser hat on, while jerking it to hot 5 on 1 action on pornhub (at least I would) So you would have a more consistent application I would love to to read one honest review from a sane normal person with no affiliation either way. Or that guy who does over macho grande, do a documented trial run to show it can work for someone. nativeremdies Super Patient Advocate Whether any of my "supporting physicians" offer it or not is absolutely immaterial to my own opinion of laser therapy. And I believe I made that clear. Yet as I stated in my second statement, the clinical basis has to be established by reputable physicians/clinics. At least some are trying to provide the long term data to determine to what extent the manufacturers' claims are actually true and/or worthwhile. I have consistently stated my opinions on laser therapy since its inception. Like you, I also want to believe that this type of therapy is beneficial to people that suffer from hairloss which includes myself, just in case you think that my affiliations have tainted my viewpoint in some commercial way. And if you think my viewpoints are less than honest or even suggesting that I am insane, than why do you read my posts? You simply do not know me. I know who I am and the fact that my passion is and has always been helping other hairloss sufferers. Still, you are entitled to your opinions. And by the way, thanks for the other compliments. Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member gillenator Posted February 18, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 18, 2013 I trust the FDA as much as I trust my the USDA, or my ex hooker girlfriend. My buddy took Propecia and it seriously F*** him up. He told me after a month on that drug, he felt like taking a 9mm to his own head. He is the most normal sane guy I have ever met, he smart, hot wife, awesome job, and balling $$. Just like to style his hair Then a couple years later, FDA adds depression to the label. Whatever, but the FDA approval doesn't mean jack or s*** in my eyes. I know what you mean as I have not been a big advocate of the FDA, still, it's better than not having any restraint or regulation at all. We have learned that the hard way in many unregulated arenas such as the financial industry to know what happens when you lets wolves in to pasture with the sheep. Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member aramis69 Posted February 18, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted February 18, 2013 I'd actually considered buying a laser helmet prior to my HT. However, I found quite a few people selling their used helmets on forums and sites, which led me to believe that they either found them to be ineffective or they were just too lazy to use them. I don't know about others, but if I had spent $1200 on a laser helmet, I'd be darned sure that I use it. Laser combs - waste of time and money! I used one for a few years. My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jc1052 Posted February 23, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 23, 2013 Thanks for all your input !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nativeremdies Posted February 23, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2013 Anyone hear about a clinic using "laser" therapy to speed up healing after a HT?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member evil Posted February 23, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted February 23, 2013 Anyone hear about a clinic using "laser" therapy to speed up healing after a HT?? The Colorado Hair Clinic that I just had my HT with offer it as a free service for 6 weeks (twice a week) after having a transplant with them, I would have taken advantage of it but I live in NJ & it just wasn't' something I could swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nativeremdies Posted February 24, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2013 That is why I was asking. In my multiple hours of being a internet doctor, have not come across it. Curious if its a valid therapy, hype or a warm fuzzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member greatjob Posted February 24, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2013 I believe that there is some validity to LLLT for wound healing and if a clinic offered it free of charge after a HT i would take advantage of it there are some studies pointing to the benefits of LLLT for wound healing: Low-Level Laser Therapy Facilitates Superficial Wound Healing in Humans: A Triple-Blind, Sham-Controlled Study An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie Influence of low level laser therapy on wound healing and its biological action upon myofibroblasts - Medrado - 2003 - Lasers in Surgery and Medicine - Wiley Online Library I do believe, however, that there is zero benefit from LLLT in the treatment of MPB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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