Regular Member aramis69 Posted August 3, 2012 Regular Member Posted August 3, 2012 I am just wondering whether any shock loss hair that is likely to come back after a HT, will it regrow the same rate as your transplanted hairs or both at the same time? I am now at 9 weeks post HT and seems like I am seeing some regrowth of my existing hair shed, due to shock loss. My Hair Loss Website
Senior Member gillenator Posted August 3, 2012 Senior Member Posted August 3, 2012 The existing hair that is non DHT receptive recycles very similiar to the transplanted hair. Transplanted hair taken from various donor regions is considered to be terminal hair and non receptive to DHT as well. They both behave very similiar regarding their growth cycles. And I am referring to follicle behavior. The exisitng hair within the recipient area or what we refer to at times as "native hair" is usually subject to DHT and therefore subject to the debilitating effects of DHT. These ill effects include a slower growth cycle, meaning, the follicles can be slower to return to the growth phase because as they fulfill each growth cycle, the hair comes back weaker, thinner in hair shaft diameter, and even begin to lose pigmentation. The future growh phases become slower and shorter in duration and eventually hair production shuts down altogethor. This is why we often inform patients to give their respective procedures a full 12 months to evaluate. The 12 month post-op period provides enough time for both DHT receptive and non DHT receptive hair follicles to cycle back to their growth phase to where they are both providing visible coverage. The new emerging growth is also intermittent so the follicles sprout up at various intervals, not all at the same time.:cool: The best is yet to come for you and wish you the very best results! Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY
Senior Member blkblk Posted August 10, 2012 Senior Member Posted August 10, 2012 I had worse than average shock loss between months 1 and 3.5 It filled in at roughly the same time as the transplanted hair grew, perhaps a tiny bit faster.
Senior Member AdamAJ Posted August 11, 2012 Senior Member Posted August 11, 2012 everyone is different....On all 3 of my hair transplants I have barely experienced shock loss if any at all
Senior Member MAGNUMpi Posted August 11, 2012 Senior Member Posted August 11, 2012 Ive read that it's possible to permanently lose some native in the HT process if it was on the way out anyway. (Hair that might have stayed in for a few more years until the next natural cycle!). I've seen a lot of pics of guys with a thinner general area near transplanted hairs (that was looking more natural pre-HT). So in the end they have more hair in the front for instance, but right behind it the shockloss took some natural density away for good. ...or am I mistaken? Maybe not for everyone but for some?
Regular Member Dr. Glenn Charles Posted August 11, 2012 Regular Member Posted August 11, 2012 I generally tell my patients that if they have any shock loss of the original/native hair that some will be temporary and some will be permanant. The hairs that are very weak and unhealthy will likely be lost , but that healthier hair that fall out post operatively due to shock will grow back at the same time or sometimes a little sooner than the transplanted hairs. When they call me and say they think the transplanted hairs are already growing I explain the them that the hairs that are growing first are likely the shocked hairs. Dr. Glenn Charles is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians
Senior Member gillenator Posted August 14, 2012 Senior Member Posted August 14, 2012 Possibly the transplanted follicles take a bit longer to show emerging new growth because they are getting established (healing) in a new environment of blood supply whereby existing native hair follicles are already established and connected to their blood supply. Just a thought. :cool: Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY
Senior Member bonkerstonker Posted August 15, 2012 Senior Member Posted August 15, 2012 I often wondered while my huge shockloss was growing back was the hair I'm seeing shockloss regrowing or ht hair but I never could tell. Check my blog in link below to see month by month shock to regrowth. Bonkerstonker! http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=1977 Update I'm now on 12200 Grafts, hair loss has been a thing of my past for years. Also I don't use minoxidil anymore I lost no hair coming off it. Reduced propecia to 1mg every other day. My surgeons were Dr Hasson x 4, Dr Wong x 2 Norton x1 I started losing my hair at 19 in 1999 I started using propecia and minoxidil in 2000 Had 7 hair transplants over 12200 grafts by way of strip but 700 were Fue From Norton in uk
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Regular Member jetfan11 Posted March 27, 2013 Regular Member Posted March 27, 2013 Aramis, Did your shock loss recover? If so when did recovery start and when did you back to even? I'm 3 months out and had terrible shock loss.
Regular Member aramis69 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Regular Member Posted March 28, 2013 Hi Jetfan11, Thankfully, yes, I did recover from the significant shockloss. My shockloss was experienced at about the one month mark Post HT. The native hairs lost due to shockloss started to regrow at about 2 and a half months. I have attached two photos, one photo at the 1 month mark and you can see I too had terrible shock loss and the other photo now at 10 months. Some of my native hairs on my crown did not regrow, I think they were on their way out, because they were quite weak. My Hair Loss Website
Senior Member michaeljames Posted March 28, 2013 Senior Member Posted March 28, 2013 I am just wondering whether any shock loss hair that is likely to come back after a HT, will it regrow the same rate as your transplanted hairs or both at the same time? I am now at 9 weeks post HT and seems like I am seeing some regrowth of my existing hair shed, due to shock loss. Hello Aramis69, As you are aware shock loss occurs for many HT patients before they see their results. Hair loss during shock loss usually will return to a normal growth cycle so just be patient. Most people see things balancing out within 6 to 12 months after their HT. So hopefully no worries for you. Did your doctor prescribe finesteride post surgery? Keep us updated and add some images if you have time. All the Best, Michael Michael James is a Patient Advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi, who is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network; and not a physician. Visit Us On: Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | LinkedIn Comments give here are only for intellectual consideration and in no manner to be construed or accepted as medical advice. It is important to seek the advice of a physician in all medical circumstances including hair restoration, dietary or others directly or indirectly related to the subjects in this forum
Regular Member jetfan11 Posted March 28, 2013 Regular Member Posted March 28, 2013 Thanks for responding. Much much appreciated. Do you have pre op photo? How did you know was shock loss recovering and not new grafts? I ask because I have little faith my new grafts will grow. So your hair fell out at 1 month but recovered 2.5 months afterr that? Or recovered 2.5 months after surgery date? Sorry for all questions!
Regular Member aramis69 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Regular Member Posted March 28, 2013 It's a pleasure jetfan11. Yes, you can check my blog for pre-op photos. I have attached a few more here. "How did you know was shock loss recovering and not new grafts? I ask because I have little faith my new grafts will grow" That's a good question and a valid one I might add. I have a pretty good analysis of where the grafts were placed and some of the native hairs were weak (thin) to begin with and if plucked, they would come out easily. If you look at my pre-op photos, you can see that the hair on the left-side mid scalp region were still strong and dense, these were not touched during surgery. The techs did not shave my hair, instead they implanted grafts in between native hairs. The new implanted grafts that have grown are distinguishable in that they are thicker, wavy, darker and much stronger than the weaker native hairs. But, then again I could be wrong. "Did your doctor prescribe finesteride post surgery? Keep us updated and add some images if you have time." No, Michael. The doctor did not mention it at all. However, at my age I would have avoided it at any cost due to potentially damaging side effects. My blog has been updated today with new photos. My Hair Loss Website
Senior Member michaeljames Posted March 29, 2013 Senior Member Posted March 29, 2013 It's a pleasure jetfan11. Yes, you can check my blog for pre-op photos. I have attached a few more here. "How did you know was shock loss recovering and not new grafts? I ask because I have little faith my new grafts will grow" That's a good question and a valid one I might add. I have a pretty good analysis of where the grafts were placed and some of the native hairs were weak (thin) to begin with and if plucked, they would come out easily. If you look at my pre-op photos, you can see that the hair on the left-side mid scalp region were still strong and dense, these were not touched during surgery. The techs did not shave my hair, instead they implanted grafts in between native hairs. The new implanted grafts that have grown are distinguishable in that they are thicker, wavy, darker and much stronger than the weaker native hairs. But, then again I could be wrong. "Did your doctor prescribe finesteride post surgery? Keep us updated and add some images if you have time." No, Michael. The doctor did not mention it at all. However, at my age I would have avoided it at any cost due to potentially damaging side effects. My blog has been updated today with new photos. Well, it looks like you are progressing nicely...and there certainly is some good improvement, congratulations. All the Best, Michael Michael James is a Patient Advocate for Dr. Parsa Mohebi, who is recommended on the Hair Transplant Network; and not a physician. Visit Us On: Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | LinkedIn Comments give here are only for intellectual consideration and in no manner to be construed or accepted as medical advice. It is important to seek the advice of a physician in all medical circumstances including hair restoration, dietary or others directly or indirectly related to the subjects in this forum
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