Regular Member jonn Posted February 27, 2006 Regular Member Share Posted February 27, 2006 hello everyone will try and make this quick 1st im in UK im 26 been losing hair now i guess 2 years mainly temples but also on top getting thinner. i hide this at the moment with quite long hair. (my style anyway) i am well aware this wont last forever. i know i have MPB. i have now ordered a 6 month propecia course to try and help this. i want to have replacment at the frontal area. i am lost there is so much infomation about strip, fue. i can not work out what to do. what surgeon to speak to, or especially who to trust. i am scared in short. can anyone please help me with advise of any kind? thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jonn Posted February 27, 2006 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 27, 2006 hello everyone will try and make this quick 1st im in UK im 26 been losing hair now i guess 2 years mainly temples but also on top getting thinner. i hide this at the moment with quite long hair. (my style anyway) i am well aware this wont last forever. i know i have MPB. i have now ordered a 6 month propecia course to try and help this. i want to have replacment at the frontal area. i am lost there is so much infomation about strip, fue. i can not work out what to do. what surgeon to speak to, or especially who to trust. i am scared in short. can anyone please help me with advise of any kind? thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member johnnie69 Posted February 27, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted February 27, 2006 I would try to treat it non-surgically first to see if you get a positive result and also to stabilize the loss. Then, if necessary, explore surgical alternatives....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jonn Posted February 28, 2006 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 28, 2006 thankyou. would you reccomend propecia ? is there any shampoos that have any real value to them as so many claims are made and you dont know what to believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member johnnie69 Posted February 28, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted February 28, 2006 I personally wont use propecia,but most of the guys on the forum do... Really the only proven shampoo is nizoral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Pat - Community Publisher Posted February 28, 2006 Administrators Share Posted February 28, 2006 John, Welcome to our forum. I think you are wise to try Propecia. If you use the "Find" feature you will see hundreds of posts about Propecia and also FUE. In my opinion, I think value of FUE has been way over sold online. But to learn more about FUE and how it compares to strip excision surgery, click here. Best wishes for stopping your hair loss. Pat Never Forget - It's what radiates from within, not from your skin, that really matters! My Hair Loss Blog Sharing is what keeps this community vital. Please join in. To learn how I restored my hair and started this community, click here. Follow our Community on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted February 28, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted February 28, 2006 John, I think you will need at least 1 year to fully evaluate whether Propecia works for you. Most of the research shows that, if it works for you, it will stop hair loss after 6 months, but any new growth won't be seen for at least a year. That has been exactly my experience with the product. I have some new growth, but the hairs are so fine that they are hard to notice. My MPB seems to have completely stopped, however (knock on wood). PerfectFew PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member johnnie69 Posted February 28, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted February 28, 2006 Noone here has ever had negative side effects to Propecia? Everyone promotes it like it candy.....I have read some horror stories elsewhere online.... Thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jonn Posted March 1, 2006 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 1, 2006 thankyou for your replies. i have recieved my propecia today. im not sure if im allowed to say but i ordered them from euromeds.co.uk (they have been shipped from california) im trying to check they are genuine they are kinda pink i guess and they have the symbol (propecia) on one side and propecia wrote on the other. anyone else ordered from these guys are the real brand ones pink ? cheers guys (sorry if ive broke any rule mentioning the website) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted March 1, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted March 1, 2006 Originally posted by johnnie69:Noone here has ever had negative side effects to Propecia? Everyone promotes it like it candy.....I have read some horror stories elsewhere online.... I haven't heard any horror stories. If you know of some, I would love to study them more closely. Please post links to them. The side effects of Propecia are very well documented: Less then 2% of the men in the clinical studies experienced sexual side effects (libido, difficulty in getting erection etc.). The side effects went away after stopping the medication. Those who continued the medication in spite of the side effects saw a decrease in those side effects to 0.3% after the 5th year of treatment. There have also been some allergic reactions like rash, swelling and itching. These reports are very uncommon. I have not heard of one person who suffered any long term affects or died from taking the drug. I don't want to promote this drug, but it is hard not to recommend it as an option since it works so well. Anyone who is considering it should do their own research, however, and talk with a qualified doctor. Nobody on this forum (including me), except for the few physicians, are qualified to prescribe it. I only know that this drug absolutely works for me, and I have not seen one single side effect. I am very happy I decided to take it, but I only wish I had done it sooner. I would have much more hair today. On a side note, I personally think candy is much worse for you than taking Propecia. The sugar content in candy has much worse effects on your body. Adult onset diabetes is one major side effect of sugar. Propecia (Actually, Proscar--a larger dose for treating enlarged prostate) has been shown to decrease the incidence of prostate cancer: http://www.ishrs.org/articles/finasteride-prostate-cancer.htm Cheers, PerfectFew PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member johnnie69 Posted March 1, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted March 1, 2006 I was considering Propecia myself....I'm 36. I did some reasearch and actually went to an endocrinologist, who advised me not to take it..Which in itself, is no big deal, cause one isnt supposed to drink and smoke etc... One of the side effects listed was gynecomastia....bitch tits....I dont want any of that, nore a limp d@$k!! I copied and pasted this from a discussion forum on gynecomastia..... As an aside, I dont care either way who takes propecia or not....and if you do, I ope that you dont get any side effects. But I do know that it is a life commitment, so for a man 20 yuears old, that is potentially 60 years of hormone interference as your body progresses through changes with age. I welcome comments....I would LOVE to reap the rewards of Propecia, but to me, the risk is greater. PASTED BELOW: propecia contains Finasteride. Finasteride lowers the potent male hormone dihydrotestosterone. Dihydrotestosterone is required for erections and libido. So as you can imagine that isn't good Hypogonadism is termed as a deficiency of testosterone and/or its metabolites. Dihydrotestosterone is a metabolite of testosterone. In other words Finasteride can and does cause hypogonadism. Finasteride is used as a treatment for prostate cancer. to chemically castrate men- instead of physical castration. I know of a number of men who have developed hypogonadim as a result of taking propecia. According to Eurgene Shippen one of the worlds leading authorities on hypogonadism and male hormones- propecia and other drugs containing small amounts of Finasteride can in a minority of men cause a form of hypogonadism that is very difficult to treat. Here is one such person who has ended up with hypogonadism as a result of the use of propecia (story is on the testosterone deficiency Centre); http://www.androids.org.uk/stories.html Here is his website and a link to other men who have suffered as a consequence of using finasteride based products; See the affects of propecia below http://www.propeciasideeffects.com/ and view the comments of one top hormone doctor here http://www.gynecomastia.org/cgi-bin/gyne_yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=1;action=di splay;num=1139738214 P.S Do not touch propecia or any product containing finasteride with a barge pole- avoid like the plague and use at your peril. Holy freakin' sh*t!!! And to think propecia is marketed for hair loss in male pattern baldness....with those side efffects.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted March 1, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted March 1, 2006 Hi I've been taking Propecia for close to 7 years with no erection problems whatsoever.No loss of libido, no nothing?? I can't speak for others but no problems here JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member johnnie69 Posted March 2, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2006 Holy freakin' sh*t!!! And to think propecia is marketed for hair loss in male pattern baldness....with those side efffects.... that was pasted from the site by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Martin Posted March 2, 2006 Regular Member Share Posted March 2, 2006 You should meet with spex, he offers himself as a showcase and is one of the good guys. I recently met him and he was very helpful! spex web site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted March 2, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2006 I've been taking it for about a 1 1/2 years. I don't have any erection problems or bitch tits (wouldn't that be interesting... lol). I do have more hair, but I'm not looking like Johnny Depp because of it. Those stories are definitely scary, but I don't necessarily worry about it. The dosage of Finasterid taken for hair loss is very small. I'm willing to take the risks involved if it means I can keep my hair. If I grow some bitch tits, hypogonads or get a limp noodle, I'll let you know right a way. On a side note, I had a recent blood workup (6 weeks ago) to test for diabetes, prostate cancer and testosterone levels. My testosterone was absolutely normal. This was a routine checkup unrelated to any condition, just something I do once a year because my father had prostate cancer. So, I say -- Study the risks, talk to your doctor and make your own choice. PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jason_d Posted March 3, 2006 Regular Member Share Posted March 3, 2006 I have been taking propecia for about 4 years. I really have not had any side effects that were severe. There was a moment when the sexual side effects did show some presence, but as of now, I do not have any, in fact, the only side effect I have sexually is that i do not cum in 2 minutes, it takes for a while. If you are willing to travel to usa, i would suggest Dr. Bernstein for a consultation, the man is very educated, knows his business and is very honest. I would love to have my second HT with him but his prices are to high. Besides DR. B, try Dr. Feller located in Great Neck NY, those are the only two doctors that I have had consultations with. For you, I would suggest using propecia for about a year, because it took me about 1 year to truelly see results. I have not had any improvements in my temple area but my crown has gathered itself really nice. I will say this, if it was not for propecia, I would not have 50 percent of the hairs that I do have on my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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