Public Message to John36

[Bill - Seemiller]

John36,

 

Why are lying by creating new posts saying that I'm trying to prevent you from sharing your story?

 

You created a hair transplant photo album in order to share your experience like I requested that you do on this thread.

 

You simply created a photo album in the wrong section of the forum, so I moved it to its appropriate place.

 

You can find your experience and photo album in the appropriate forum "Hair Restoration Results Posted by Patients" entitled butched.

 

I even sent you a private message about this so that you didn't think I removed your post. Apparently, you blatatantly ignored me and tried to make it sound like I'm doing you and this community an injustice.

 

My private message to you was as follows:

 

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John,

 

Thanks for sharing your experience and photos.

 

Just as an FYI, I moved your photos to the "Hair Restoration Results Posted by Patients" section of the forum since it's more appropriate there.

 

I agree with the others that repair options are available if it's something you are interested in.

 

When did you have your surgery by the way?

 

Bill

 

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John, the photo album section of the forum is actually the most prominently viewed section of the forum and your posted album is more appropriate there. If you'd like, you may create a new thread in this section of the forum to share your detailed experience and then link to your photo album since other patients have done this. But photo albums are always moved to the appropriate forum.

 

We welcome your story here, but if you intend on plaguing this forum like a virus and creating a number of posts on the same subject and in the wrong forum, I will be forced to suspend your account.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

[Guest]

26000 compared to 11000? nah i dont think so

[lost my swagger]

Originally posted by botchedinatl:

26000 compared to 11000? nah i dont think so

 

this is a good point... it should be allowed to be viewed in the MORE POPULAR forum, before being MOVED to a section that has far less views and and far less exposure.....this is my opinion...

[Bill - Seemiller]

botched,

 

Your numbers "26000" and "11000" have to do with the number of posts, not the number of views.

 

The photo albums are prominently featured and viewd by a multitude of patients considering surgery.

 

This isn't even the point. Photo albums go in the "photo albums" section.

 

What part of this don't you understand?

 

Bill

[Bill - Seemiller]

lost my swagger,

 

Your point of view is ridiculous. I guess we should eliminate the photo album section since clearly I should just allow people to post wherever the heck they want right?

 

Let's leave order and reason elsewhere and leave things alone so members and guests visiting our forum can't find anything. Agreed?

 

Seriously people....

 

If you seriously question my motives simply because I've moved a topic to the appropriate forum, then you are welcome to find another forum to contribute to.

 

Bill

[lost my swagger]

ive not questioned your motives man, just looking for answers youve posted and explained your reasoning take it easy... not sure why your now attacking my 'ridiculous' reasoning... for what?? it makes sense to me that john should be able to post in THIS SECTION.. hes telling a STORY, its just involving pics in it... he was not posting a PURE "results" thread... it was his EXPERIENCE AND REVIEW more than it was pics...i believe it was posted in a very appropriate place... you do not...... thats fine with me... your the boss... but i should not be insulted just cause you disagree. i never questioned your MOTIVES, just your reasoning.

[Eman]

Bill- You are doing the right thing!! They need to understand that you are doing the work of a forum moderator and you are doing a great job.

 

If they cannot understand simple order or where to post things in the forum and argue with you about it, let them leave. This forum is intended to help inform and teach people about HTs (good and bad), not for guys to post inane and snide posts.

[wantego]

I'm a mod on a sports board. I constantly have to move threads. It is not any fun for me to move a thread but it is part of the job. It is done to keep things on the board organized and so people have much less problem finding information.

[Bill - Seemiller]

lost my swagger,

 

I never mind being genuinely questioned. But from your posts on another thread, you appeared ready to throw down the gavel as if you were some kind of judge and jury over this community.

 

I guess based on what you told me privately, I can understand that.

 

I'm sorry if I've come across a bit harsh to you. But I also suggest that if you have a question about my methods that you send me a private message and ask me with an open mind rather than one ready to execute my judgement

 

Bill

[Bill - Seemiller]

wantego,

 

I completely agree. Moving threads is not the highlight of my responsibilities. There also seems to be an epidemic of this as of late .

 

I'm even trying my best to send each topic starter a private message every time I move their post. I do this so that members know and don't think I've removed their post. Though I admit, this is getting more difficult to do since our forum population is continually on the uprising.

 

Though, I did create a featured pinned thread weeks ago called "Creating New Threads in the Right Forum".

 

Anyway, none of this was meant to be a big deal at all. I just don't like being accused when I've performed the simplest of tasks to keep this forum organized and easy to use for members and guests

 

Bill

[lost my swagger]

bill sorry if i came off like you were not trustworthy.. i feel you very well could be.. just was lookin for an explaination.. thats it... perhaps it should have been done privately first but i meant no disrespect... you took it that way.. please dont make it seem as though i already ruled you GUILTY for simply saying...' whats going on bill, can you explain? if not "one might wonder" whats going on".... this is what i said... i feel you took it as much worse. your making my post seem much more cruel then it ACTUALLY was IMHO

[john36]

I did not about the feature private message.I found about that later today.Therefore I did not know about your message before I reopened my treads again,the reason why were 2 is because on the forst attempt it could not take all my pics.Look,I could argue reasons why my topic should be in the review of surgeons/experience of HT.But I won't.You are moderator and I accept ok?But listen.I am 36 years old,war veteran,lived in Endland ando other European countries for years.Have had ups/downs.Don't please as you have,tell me what to write ,how to think,on what and how to focus,and put words in my mouth that I recruit Physicians for some crusade.I don't recruit,I asked them questions.Very reosonable.Questions such as do they violate or not the laws as I describe.I seek answer so I can inteligently decide whom to choose.

If you remove from this post for not good reason I am telling you straight,and I dont have "implied" message.I saved copy/paste all my blogs here.Will take to the prospective news reporter to write about your PUBLIC forum that is sued for defending Constitutional right of expression/speach.Your (by all means)just declaration why is that important to defend,and if you remove me without just reason,the hypocrrisy of this web site.And then Armani will have valid claim that this is nothing but mimicry,acting,pretending to be place of free expression,but rather biased promotion of certain HT surgeons.And then your defense that you promote free speach will dissapear.OK?Do not tell me what to focus on,what to feel,how to think.I am not a baby.OK?Fair enough?If not,then make your move

[PLEASE GROW PLEASE]

Danm man, it gets harder and harder to feel sorry about you.

I can see why Haber was like screw that ,go elsewhere.

People are taking their time to help you yet you keep crying like a little girl.

Chill out I know your miserable but you can fix all this easier then your acting.

[john36]

who asked for pitty?Why?I ask this and why is it hard to answer?

1.How many of you personally evaluate the patient sufficiently so you could formulate an appropriate pre-operative diagnosis, and how many of you use "consultant" non medical person to do it for you? In adition and related to thishow many of you explain pros and cons of HT surgery so patient inteligently can decide about his options (informed consent) and how many of you give that to the "consultant" as well?

2. How many of you perform or personally supervise all aspects of the surgery?Including placement of the grafts in the receptor sites?And how many of you carve the patient,take the strip,suture the wound,make incisions (holes) in patient head and then leave the surgical room and patient and leave the rest to the "surgical technicians"?Do you have in other words, aspects of the surgery outside of your supervision performed or supervised by another qualified surgeon with the consent of the patient?

3. How many of you fail to personally perform post-operative medical care?How many of you delegate post-operative medical care to a non-qualified medical professional or to a non medical proffesional at all?

4. Do you recklessly delegate medical tasks in violation of the Administrative Codes in your states?

5.Does any of you negligently and recklessly delegate the tasks of selecting the donor site to harvest the hair follicles for transplant in the preceptor site by letting the "surgical technicians"choose the location of the same by shaving and preparing patient just before surgery?

6.Do you and how many of you negligently and recklessly and ILLEGALY delegate the tasks of administering anesthesia to patient to persons not qualified under your state law? (everywhere in USA it is a law only DOCTOR can administer anesthesia)

7. How many of you negligently and recklessly delegate the tasks of preparing the donor grafts, and insertion of the donor grafts into the surgically prepared receptor sites ,with your supervision ,to your "surgical technicians"?How many of you negligently and recklessly delegate the tasks of preparing the donor grafts, and insertion of the donor grafts into the surgically prepared receptor sites ,WITHOUT your supervision ,to your "surgical technicians"while you chill outside the surgical room for hours?In violation of your administrative laws of your state

8. How many of you have never seen the patient untill just before surgery and therefore Lack Informed Consent in Violation of the Law in your state?

9. How many of you have "surgical technicians" engaged in the practice of medicine and surgery without the appropriate certificate from the State Medical Board in your state,in violation of the law in your state?

 

B.This questions are for the HT experts that post on this forum.

[john36]

No one said we don't do it.We respect the laws.

Hwo wants your sorry or pro bono help "man".Go ahead all of you bann me for here.Then this would be NO PUBLIC FORUM.But comercialised site for promotion of surgeons who claim that cetrain surgeon,Armani has questionable ethics,but on the other side don't allow man to ask here HEY YOU DO YOU BRAKE PATIENTS RIGHTS CONSTANTLY THAT CAN?COULD RESULT IN HEAD LIKE MINE?

[john36]

Danm man, it gets harder and harder to feel sorry about you.

I can see why Haber was like screw that ,go elsewhere.

People are taking their time to help you yet you keep crying like a little girl.

Chill out I know your miserable but you can fix all this easier then your acting.

 

I say,to Haber ,and you.Do you want butchery on inocent people in HT to stop or not?

[PLEASE GROW PLEASE]

Do what you feel needs to be done even though you are not going to get anywhere.

We all have ways to try and get back at this industry .

I had my way and you had yours.

Yours is much more civil then mine so type away my friend.

A bit of advice though take a xanax and down a few shots of Petron before you go in with doctor you choose.

You could scare away Medusa.

If you choose to stay the way you are

now then just fire away. There are alot of forums that you could also share your story to .Ill pm you the names

[john36]

The content of this message has been removed at the request of the original poster.

[Dewayne]

No offense, but I've added to my "ignore" list. It was interesting for a while, but time for me to move on....

[john36]

offense not taken move on then.

I posted a question in Q and A about sutures removal and position of scar.

[Bill - Seemiller]

John,

 

I'm really not sure your purpose here.

 

You've made it loud and clear that you have brought legal action against Dr. Weiss. You have also solicited the professional opinion of a few hair transplant surgeons including the well esteemed Dr. Haber. You've had your attorney send each of these doctors a letter asking them to sign something which helps your legal case against Dr. Weiss.

 

Unless I missed an important fact, isn't that precisely what I said above about trying to recruit surgeons on a legal crusade against Dr. Weiss?

 

If I am mistaken, then please correct me.

 

Personally, I feel for you, especially after looking at your photos. But I'm not quite sure how to help you since you seem to have no interest in getting repaired.

 

We have given you a voice by allowing you to share your story. You have also received valuable feedback by members genuinely trying to help you, including me.

 

I'm really not sure what else to do for you but wish you well.

 

Bill

[dakota3]

What the hell is going on here? Am I missing something here? What is this all about?

 

John, It's hard to follow you when you are not using complete sentences or staying on the same subject! Just make your point....

[john36]

to dakota3:

Hi.

Just asking the well esteemed doctors this questions:

1.How many of you personally evaluate the patient sufficiently so you could formulate an appropriate pre-operative diagnosis, and how many of you use "consultant" non medical person to do it for you? In adition and related to thishow many of you explain pros and cons of HT surgery so patient inteligently can decide about his options (informed consent) and how many of you give that to the "consultant" as well?

2. How many of you perform or personally supervise all aspects of the surgery?Including placement of the grafts in the receptor sites?And how many of you carve the patient,take the strip,suture the wound,make incisions (holes) in patient head and then leave the surgical room and patient and leave the rest to the "surgical technicians"?Do you have in other words, aspects of the surgery outside of your supervision performed or supervised by another qualified surgeon with the consent of the patient?

3. How many of you fail to personally perform post-operative medical care?How many of you delegate post-operative medical care to a non-qualified medical professional or to a non medical proffesional at all?

4. Do you recklessly delegate medical tasks in violation of the Administrative Codes in your states?

5.Does any of you negligently and recklessly delegate the tasks of selecting the donor site to harvest the hair follicles for transplant in the preceptor site by letting the "surgical technicians"choose the location of the same by shaving and preparing patient just before surgery?

6.Do you and how many of you negligently and recklessly and ILLEGALY delegate the tasks of administering anesthesia to patient to persons not qualified under your state law? (everywhere in USA it is a law only DOCTOR can administer anesthesia)

7. How many of you negligently and recklessly delegate the tasks of preparing the donor grafts, and insertion of the donor grafts into the surgically prepared receptor sites ,with your supervision ,to your "surgical technicians"?How many of you negligently and recklessly delegate the tasks of preparing the donor grafts, and insertion of the donor grafts into the surgically prepared receptor sites ,WITHOUT your supervision ,to your "surgical technicians"while you chill outside the surgical room for hours?In violation of your administrative laws of your state

8. How many of you have never seen the patient untill just before surgery and therefore Lack Informed Consent in Violation of the Law in your state?

9. How many of you have "surgical technicians" engaged in the practice of medicine and surgery without the appropriate certificate from the State Medical Board in your state,in violation of the law in your state?

 

So I can get informed and inteligently decide whom to pick for revision.well I am asking because I am confused.For example what Dr.Feller says and what Haber says are different things.I put my dillema in questions in Q and A section....kinda to give you input.

 

To : Bill

 

We clear.

I wish you well too.

[mgoldberg]

John: Here's the problem.. They are not Doctors.

[DeDom]

Hi John,

I really feel for you and I'm so sorry about your story.

 

As mentioned before, we all want to help you and told you about your repair options. There are several great doctors or their advisors posting on this board. Feller, Shapiro, Konior, H&W - they all helped so many guys. There's no reason to doubt. Aside from that, at this point you have to believe in someone. Feel free to have a look at the incredible number of weblogs created by patients.

 

To be honest: If you talk about your story countless times in overlapping threads, it'll be like a pain in the neck. We are no doctors. We are laypeople. We can't answer all your questions. And I even think, it's not necessary, because some of your thoughts are disconnected from reality.