Senior Member Time to do something Posted November 6, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2007 What are the pros and cons of using a different doctor for a second HT? I am going back for a second procedure in a few months and wondered if possibly there was a benefit to sticking with the same doctor or a benefit with going with a different one which might complement the previous doctor's work with a different method. I have no problems with the first doctor I was just wondering if there was any thought or experience with this topic. Thanks NW5 Dr. Epstein July 4, 2007 2520 grafts 471 one hair grafts 1540 two hair grafts 505 three hair grafts 5070 Total hair count Dr. Epstein August 4, 2008 2384 grafts 870 one hair grafts 1150 two hair grafts 364 three and four hair grafts 4262 Total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro November 18, 2009 1896 grafts 760 one hair grafts 852 two hair grafts 288 three hair grafts 46 four hair grafts 3362 total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro July 1, 2011 1191 grafts 447 one hair grafts 580 two hair grafts 150 three hair grafts 14 four hair grafts 2113 total hair count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Time to do something Posted November 6, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2007 What are the pros and cons of using a different doctor for a second HT? I am going back for a second procedure in a few months and wondered if possibly there was a benefit to sticking with the same doctor or a benefit with going with a different one which might complement the previous doctor's work with a different method. I have no problems with the first doctor I was just wondering if there was any thought or experience with this topic. Thanks NW5 Dr. Epstein July 4, 2007 2520 grafts 471 one hair grafts 1540 two hair grafts 505 three hair grafts 5070 Total hair count Dr. Epstein August 4, 2008 2384 grafts 870 one hair grafts 1150 two hair grafts 364 three and four hair grafts 4262 Total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro November 18, 2009 1896 grafts 760 one hair grafts 852 two hair grafts 288 three hair grafts 46 four hair grafts 3362 total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro July 1, 2011 1191 grafts 447 one hair grafts 580 two hair grafts 150 three hair grafts 14 four hair grafts 2113 total hair count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PLEASE GROW PLEASE Posted November 6, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2007 If you are really happy with the results from the first doctor and he has a reputation of delivering superb all around results, I would be hesitant on going anywhere else. I do believe though that different doctors do have their strong points so depending on what your looking for in the second surgery I would still go back and RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEACH and look at all the photos possible to determine if a change would be beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member balody Posted November 6, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2007 surely this is common sense isnt it?if your totally satisfied with ht#1 you would be mad to chance someone you havent experienced performing ht#2?if you are not satisfied then obviously you will go elsewhere 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Time to do something Posted November 6, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2007 Balody, I think you might have misunderstood my question. I don't believe this is common sense since I am not far enough along yet to know what the results are from the first procedure. I have no reason to believe the results won't be good. However, I don't think I would necessarily be "chancing" anything by using a different doctor since apparently ALL of the collation doctors are of the same caliber. I am asking this question assuming I will be happy with the results from the first HT. I have noticed that many people on this forum have had multiple HT's from multiple doctors. I know the geographic area usually isn't a factor since people travel across the country for the procedures. I wondered if having two procedures from two different collation doctors would blend the best of both worlds of two different methods of artistic ability and expertise or if sticking with the same doctor for uniformity is recommended. NW5 Dr. Epstein July 4, 2007 2520 grafts 471 one hair grafts 1540 two hair grafts 505 three hair grafts 5070 Total hair count Dr. Epstein August 4, 2008 2384 grafts 870 one hair grafts 1150 two hair grafts 364 three and four hair grafts 4262 Total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro November 18, 2009 1896 grafts 760 one hair grafts 852 two hair grafts 288 three hair grafts 46 four hair grafts 3362 total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro July 1, 2011 1191 grafts 447 one hair grafts 580 two hair grafts 150 three hair grafts 14 four hair grafts 2113 total hair count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hoose Posted November 6, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2007 There really is no hard and fast answer; it is subjective in a way; the previous posters gave you some good advice; ultimately it is up to you and how you feel about the 1st doc and your results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PLEASE GROW PLEASE Posted November 6, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2007 Good point ,but Ill probably get a little heat for saying this, but I dont belive every doctor in this coalition are on the same level. Yes they are ALL good at what they do but there are a handful of doctors on here in my opinion that blow the bottom feeders away. The coalition is an allstar team of doctors but for every A-rod they are three David Ortiz and one Travis Hafner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Time to do something Posted November 6, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2007 Please Grow Please, thanks for your honesty. What you said is what I believed was the case. I really appreciate someone offering their opinion and not sugar coating it. I totally understand it is just your opinion but since I am a novice at this subject I am gathering as many opinions as I can and look for recurring themes. I think we all agree the hair mills are bad. Without candid opinions (without slandering) this forum would not be as effective. NW5 Dr. Epstein July 4, 2007 2520 grafts 471 one hair grafts 1540 two hair grafts 505 three hair grafts 5070 Total hair count Dr. Epstein August 4, 2008 2384 grafts 870 one hair grafts 1150 two hair grafts 364 three and four hair grafts 4262 Total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro November 18, 2009 1896 grafts 760 one hair grafts 852 two hair grafts 288 three hair grafts 46 four hair grafts 3362 total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro July 1, 2011 1191 grafts 447 one hair grafts 580 two hair grafts 150 three hair grafts 14 four hair grafts 2113 total hair count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairbank Posted November 6, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2007 TTDS- I can tell you personally that I chose a different Dr. for HT #2 just because I had learned so much about HT's after HT #1 and knew more of what I needed. I did mega research before HT #2 and landed with Dr. Wong and have never regretted the decision for a second. I had scheduled a 3rd HT scheduled for this past August, also with Dr. Wong, (Doc from HT #2) but had to cancel for personal reasons. I may still go for HT #3 and will go with him if I do. To me, the benefit is that he did the majority of the work on me (3886 grafts versus 1200 from HT #1), is familiar with my situation, he can blend in with his own work better than anyone else and, to me, he's one of the best of the best-----I was extremely satisfied-----so why look anywhere else? Hope this helps! Hairbank 1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's 2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong 3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day My Hair Loss Weblog Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor (and have never played one on TV ) and have no medical training. Any information I share here is in an effort to help those who don't like hair loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 It comes down to personal preference. If you are happy with the results from your first doctor then certainly consider going back to him. In my case, I choose a different doctor for all 3 surgeries for various subjective reasons. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Time to do something Posted November 7, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 7, 2007 Your hair looks great I might add so in your case using different doctors looks like it complemented each others work. NW5 Dr. Epstein July 4, 2007 2520 grafts 471 one hair grafts 1540 two hair grafts 505 three hair grafts 5070 Total hair count Dr. Epstein August 4, 2008 2384 grafts 870 one hair grafts 1150 two hair grafts 364 three and four hair grafts 4262 Total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro November 18, 2009 1896 grafts 760 one hair grafts 852 two hair grafts 288 three hair grafts 46 four hair grafts 3362 total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro July 1, 2011 1191 grafts 447 one hair grafts 580 two hair grafts 150 three hair grafts 14 four hair grafts 2113 total hair count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TheHairLossCure Posted November 9, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 9, 2007 A patient who does his research will most likely find a reputable doctor. The research will also help that the patient set proper expectations in advance. If these expectations are satisfied, the patient has good reason to stay with his physician. Certainly, there is nothing wrong with going else where, assuming the same level of research is conducted. One possible reason to see 2 docs is the availability of Strip and FUE. If you are patient with a great strip and 2,500-3,000 or so grafts, you may be delighted with the result and the doc. In fact you may be so pleased that you feel you only need a small 100-250 graft touch up. For me, such as small procedure is ideal for FUE. If the doc that delivered the great Strip result does not do FUE, I think it reasonable to consult a few FUE specialists for a small job. Notice: I am an employee of Dr. Paul Rose who is recommended on this community. I am not a doctor. My opinions are not necessarily those of Dr. Rose. My advice is not medical advice. Dr. Rose is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nobuzz4me Posted November 9, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 9, 2007 I think Mrjb can attest to staying with the same doc. Of course, he had a top notch surgeon in Dr. True. Other than knowing that you are satisfied with prior work, The biggest benefit I believe would be that your doc would have a bit of a road map to success with your case. The doc is familiar with your scar, hair characteristics and most important, your plan to finish what you started in terms of placement/design etc. The key is to choose a great doc and communicate your desires and challenges as a team. NoBuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Time to do something Posted November 9, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 9, 2007 Good points NW5 Dr. Epstein July 4, 2007 2520 grafts 471 one hair grafts 1540 two hair grafts 505 three hair grafts 5070 Total hair count Dr. Epstein August 4, 2008 2384 grafts 870 one hair grafts 1150 two hair grafts 364 three and four hair grafts 4262 Total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro November 18, 2009 1896 grafts 760 one hair grafts 852 two hair grafts 288 three hair grafts 46 four hair grafts 3362 total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro July 1, 2011 1191 grafts 447 one hair grafts 580 two hair grafts 150 three hair grafts 14 four hair grafts 2113 total hair count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted November 10, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 10, 2007 I had the same doc for HT 1 -3 . Yes, I could have gone to another for a MEGASESSION or whatever but the grass is always greener on the other side ( this does not apply if you are not happy with your surgery). So, I stuck with Dr. True and now I could not be happier in anyway.He delivered on his promise and then some. There are many good docs out there so it does make it tough. The main point is to see a doc which might specialize in an area you need ( FUE, Repairs, etc.) JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Time to do something Posted November 10, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted November 10, 2007 I'll probably stick with the same doctor after reading your points especially after he told me I would received a little bit of a discount for procedure two. I just wondered a few days ago if different doctors had different strengths and weaknesses and if using two different ones might blend the best of their strengths together. It is probably such an minuscule difference though when dealing with the top doctors that it wouldn't be worth starting over with a new doctor who isn't familiar with my hair, scalp etc. I just read a few times on here that certain doctors are known for more density and/or better hairlines. I haven't been able to figure out why a doctor would provide less density if the donor grafts are available. I don't want the hair line of an 18 year old but I don't want a sparse one either that looks wispy like I am thinning. My hair is very thick on the sides and back so to have thinner hair on the top would look off balance. I have no reason to believe I won't have some good density once the HT matures but if I had one of the doctors that provides less density then I wouldn't be as happy as I would had I gone with another doctor that provided more density. My doctor is conservative which I appreciate because I don't want to be sold a bill of goods. I am a NW5 and my hairloss has pretty much stabilized since I am 46. I had 2520 grafts placed in the front third in July. The doctor said I'd be really happy with the results and he said he packed the grafts in there pretty tight. In January I am going back for procedure two to address what to do next. I am either using the next grafts in the front to thicken it up or on the crown or a combination of both. NW5 Dr. Epstein July 4, 2007 2520 grafts 471 one hair grafts 1540 two hair grafts 505 three hair grafts 5070 Total hair count Dr. Epstein August 4, 2008 2384 grafts 870 one hair grafts 1150 two hair grafts 364 three and four hair grafts 4262 Total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro November 18, 2009 1896 grafts 760 one hair grafts 852 two hair grafts 288 three hair grafts 46 four hair grafts 3362 total hair count Dr. Ron Shapiro July 1, 2011 1191 grafts 447 one hair grafts 580 two hair grafts 150 three hair grafts 14 four hair grafts 2113 total hair count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dr. Michael Beehner Posted November 10, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted November 10, 2007 If a patient jumps between several doctors to complete his final hair transplant result, I would question the quality and depth of the initial consultation. It is this all-important visit at which the surgeon assesses the particular needs of the patient, the ratio between balding scalp and available donor hair, the patient's unique hair characteristics, his financial ability to complete the task, and, perhaps most important, the patient's psychological stability and maturity. A bond of trust is formed, a plan is laid out and both surgeon and patient "buy into" that plan. Obviously, sometimes things such as financial hardship (loss of job), marital changes, or illness can get in the way of that exact plan unfolding on schedule. How the patient wants to style his hair and how long he expects to be able to cut his donor area hair down to also factor into the equation of the plan. I have had people come to me who clearly wanted to keep the option to shave down their heads and wanted FUE, and I gave them a list of doctors who enjoy doing large sessions using this modality, as I usually limit my FUE sessions to around 400-500 grafts. People needing scalp expanders to cover large areas of burn damage I likewise refer to a hair surgeon who has this in his repertoire. But 95% of the patients who have a first session with us stick with us and complete the plan we set up at that first consultation visit. When the patient leaves from their first surgery, we give them a 4-page handout titled "Expectations," which explains what to look for and when, so their expectations are realistic. Each surgeon, no matter how exalted his reputation, has occasional cases where the donor scar is wider than he would like or the growth is less than desired, and those patients occasionally do end up in another surgeon's office, but, if the doctor-patient relationship is good, he will return to his original surgeon and that surgeon will "make good" on reaching the original goals one way or another. But it's important for that second surgeon to be a little understanding of what happened and lot lambast the previous surgeon's reputation to the patient or on the internet, as that same surgeon almost surely has some of his patients doing the same thing and showing up in other doctors' offices. We only see other doctors' unhappy patients, we don't see all the happy ones who are sticking with that doctor. Obviously, if a surgeon is consistently butchering patients, you maybe have an obligation to speak up, but that's the exception today fortunately. Mike Beehner, M.D. Dr. Mike Beehner is a highly esteemed member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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