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And yet another first time poster. Now do you see what we're talking about, Blake?

That Kevin and his gang were doing the same thing- remember him and ScalpMed? I think that long thread is STILL up at Hairsite. Even if they weren't shills for ScalpMed...he had that stupid request for donations/contributions. I wouldn't be surprised if these are the same guys. Same M.O. Website...asking for $...new posters tag-teaming/ganging up on both results and against those questioning them.

All 3...yes 3...threads at HLT started by these clowns have been deleted. Same for at HLF. Same stupid tag-teaming slimeballs as well.

I was thinking of a free phone app. If anyone would care to set up a website on one of these ideas we can then get together and tag-team our way to financial independence.

^You...have got to be...kidding me. Of course they're not stupid enough to use the same IP addies. Do we really have to even say any more? LOL!...I'm not even going to bother...

Come on Hair Restoration...these guys have been spamming all the forums with this nail-rubbing crap-site. In each one another newbie, sometimes even 2 or more, responds that it's working for him. It's "free"..but then they have a contribution page- that's all they're doing here. Shocked the OP is even still up..

Why not just list all the protein shakes out there that are supposed to be good for hair/skin. I'll start with this one: (promotional link removed)

If I may.... You hit on one major obvious red flag- cueball to furball in 4 months. Actually I thought it was 3..but either way- no way. As for mentioning the other products along with Scalpmed....what you said there is exactly what he/they are hoping ppl will think. On a certain forum that he posts at..there are now 2 other ppl talking just like him, and tag-teaming away. Stuff like this has been going on for years with that company. On silica..I've taken microsilica before- for heavy-metal chelating. Otherwise it's(regular silica or horsetail) just been in various supplements I've taken, including a hair combo I now take.

He's been spamming all the forums.........

So you fell for the marketing material You'd think you'd want some updates in this thread first..??

Can't really argue with anything said in the article. If I could afford it..I'd get one of hose Laser Cap's...but I wouldn't expect much.

So how does he get away with it? There are plenty of other issues regarding this Dr and his products. Here's an ad in Texas Monthly(back in '87..that's how long his stuff has been around) in which he says there's a "comprehensive three year clinical study". Texas Monthly - Google Books That study never happened.

Thanks for the response. Well..this actually has to do with Proxiphen and Proxiphen-N, and maybe even NANO. I'm sure you're aware of these products, that have been around for decades. The Dr. behind the product himself has talked about ingredients that he won't divulge that are supposed to make the product(s) even better. "Mysterious ingredients" are the words thrown around since at least the late 90's.

BioSil or JarroSil

I thought maybe someone here would know- does a company have to list ALL the ingredients they put into a product? Is there a problem with a company saying via email or even in a forum like this- that there are extra goodies in the product, but I/we can't say what they are...? Maybe someone has a link to a FDA page that lays out the rules. Thanks

I actually have been getting quite a few from Amazon lately. Especially the ones that have the 15% off for auto-shipment...free shipping as well. Just have to keep an eye on the prices as they can change. You get a notification prior to each shipment..what the price is etc.

Swimmy...as the person that introduced ppl in these forums to that Mibelle Biochemistry line...as well as the Phytocelltec...the ingredients are good. Maybe you could give some examples of products with "random crap" in a bottle...but I'd like to point out that they could have gone with more ingreds that actually have some evidence for hair regrowth or even use for hair health. Many of the ingredss *are* in other products..even if not the Mibelle branded ingreds. Phytocelltec as well..many products these days with the apple stem cells. Some with the other Phytocelltec plant stems cells as well- Andalou's being one. BTW..I was also the one who pointed out that they need to be careful not to let the stuff freeze(can't say I'm not trying to be helpful ). I posted this in another forum and it was relayed to their forum..not sure if it was you who did that or not. I guess I would also suggest they ask Mibelle if it's a good idea to shake the product up.

I rarely use a conditioner. To me it doesn't make sense unless your shampoo is frying your hair or something. Or I suppose if the conditioner really makes that much of a difference in making your hair look better. I'm always using a "scalp therapy"..a topical.

My favorite is Lamas' Chinese herbal styling gel. Morrocco Method also makes a good one..as does Andalou Naturals. John Masters is one I have yet to try yet.

Guys..seriously....you could go to Iherb.com or Swansonvitamins.com and pick out 6 supplements and/or combos that would make just as much sense or more. One of my favorites is acetyl-glutathione. Not cheap..and I'm not even going to say it's doing anything hair-wise. But I'd probably put it up against that whole line mentioned above. I also take MSM...with bioflavanoids.

Actually many of the ingreds are not "entirely different from the norm". But it is a good list..although the hype over it- which is the norm for that group- is probably going to disappoint folks. As for ...there's so much to say about that...but I'll just say there's a reason why their websites and names etc aren't allowed in a few forums. BTW..is Immortalhair ever going to show us his hair that could never be any better? Good luck with it Swimmy.

This/these guy(s) have been spamming all over the place. Including where I mod at. Even after their posts were deleted..they come back as "someone else". It's odd the # of companies that do this too. Why not just introduce yourself...say you've got a product that *may* help..maybe even offer a discount in the beginning..etc?? Of course if you're allowed to do that in whatever forum you're in.

This from chrome over at HLH: And here is an email i received from the FDA themselves regarding the Hairmax laser comb "clearance": ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your interest in contacting the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) through your recent e-mail is appreciated. If you look at the Indications for Use statement in the 510(k) data at the link, you will see that the HairMax is indeed cleared for promotion of hair growth in those with male-pattern baldness. I hope this response proves helpful to you! Cynthia Benson Office of Communication, Education and Radiation Programs Center for Devices and Radiological Health U.S. Food and Drug Administration 1-800-638-2041, ext. 109

Bill...you still cannot just comment on the pictures or provide the FDA ones for Propecia or Minoxidil. And go ahead and post the 10,000 others- I'm sure I'll have fun with them as well. I've already pointed out WHY I'm asking for those photos. Another way of putting it is how I put it at HLH just: "Actually they do have a place in this discussion since no one has provided me all those before/after pictures of the trialists from the FDA approval of those substances. And I mean ALL of them, not just the best(haven't even gotten those). They were approved but that doesn't = major results like you're whining about regarding LLLT." And btw..Dr. Feller HAS moved the goal posts there. Before it was ANY proof that LLLT works. Now it's "significant results" etc.

Bill...I have posted links to photos. Reread my previous post where I once again ask for you to comment on the others I posted. You still cannot find the photos of the minox only and propecia only trialists. I still may ask in the forums for people to direct us to those that are forum participants, but like what you posted- most are going to be of users using other things as well. To both you and giants, I asked for the FDA pictures- I didn't get them. The vast majority of those that were posted were using other things as well, such as nizoral. I also pointed out where OTHERS were questioning the pictures etc- there was nothing special about those photos at all. As YODA said: "What's funny is that those photos, for example, if I were to say they are all from Low Level Laser Therapy patients, Dr. Feller and all the other non-believers would find a way to DEBUNK each and every one. LOL..Oh, this guy just grew his hair longer...Oh, this guy had towel dried hair in his before photo...Oh, this guys after photo is a little darker, etc etc....LOL!!!" Have you guys seen the thread over at Hair Loss Help I'm referring to? It's right here