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I have had it done on multiple occasions, from Dr. Umar, the king himself, and yes, it works. It has worked in all of my numerous strip scars from the 90's, but more importantly, it has added density to awful transplants from the 90's. Were it not for beard hair I would still be wearing a ball cap everywhere. 

15 hours ago, Oxiborick said:

Dunno about that. One admin encouraged me to expose them over private messages, so there's that.

Yes, but we need more than that. We need a HT repair section, as well as a bulletin board of horror stories and doctors to avoid. Perhaps someone sees that BEFORE they are butchered. 

17 hours ago, Sanjar41 said:

But he did it already and personally I thank him for that. This forum is helping everyone and honestly I don't understand what you talking about.

I know you don't, I don't expect you to. I know this forum helps people, it's extremely beneficial. 

10 hours ago, Sanjar41 said:

I mean really there is no law here in the US to go after him or criminals like him and stop him once and for all? Maybe if admin agrees, one topic about him and his crimes might help many other victims in the future.

I don't think Admin. likes to shine a light on these kinds of unethical butchers, as it makes the industry look bad, and they get paid to make the industry look good. 

On 12/7/2022 at 10:15 AM, jjsrader said:

Dude - I've been around on Hair Loss message boards since the late 90's.  I stand by what I wrote.  He does alot of body hair/nape hair/leg hair - none of that will ever look completely natural on a repair patient.  Only less jarring.  No fault of his.  Thus - boutique/niche.

And he doesn't have alot of profile (doesn't need it).  Finally, he takes on very awful cases - alot of other surgeons do transplants day after day.  Dr. Umar does other plastic surgery; alot in fact.

So get out of my face already.  Ty

You don't know what you're talking about, and your judgement is flawed, as are your assumptions. But it's a free country, and you are free to be wrong. 

Getting back on topic, I have also visited Dr. Konior as I live in Illinois and he is not far away. I had hairline revision by him before he started practicing FUE, and he did, and does, great work. He had little to work with in my case, as my donor sources were almost depleted. I can personally say, from someone who has sat in the chair of both of these doctors, that ethically and professionally, they are both amongst the best choices you can make in a crowded field.

What sickens me is how nothing is done to stop this clinic from continuing to knowingly disfigure people, why hasn't someone contacted a medical board and posted pictures of his work? We have two members here that can attest to their willful negligence, are there no medical standards applied to this industry? 

Well, I do think that s a rhetorical question, and there has never been any standards applied to this industry. Make no mistake, it's still the Wild West out there. Technology has yielded excellent results, but only in the hands of those with talent and ethics, the latter often lacking in the history of this industry. 

So how do we stop this scumbag from butchering anyone else? Is the medical community, including every single doctor who publishes their results on this forum, going to coalesce as a unified group and utter a public condemnation, as well as contact their local medical boards with a photographic evidence of this so-called doctor's malfeasance, lack of medical efficacy and repeated violations of the Hippocratic Oath? 

1 hour ago, jjsrader said:

Dr. Umar has very little profile - boutique/niche surgeon.  Seems more plastic surgeon/repair/specialized.  I'd go w/surgeons that do regular hair transplants every day like clockwork.

You've been on the forum for how long? Dr. Umar was on here posting pictures of not only amazing repairs, but amazing HT's of guys approaching NW7, from as far back as I've been on the forum, which is 2007. You weren't around for all of that. I don't know what you mean by "boutique/niche" surgeon, do you? 

His extensive experience doing amazing repair work is certainly no impediment, and every one of his patients can expect an excellent result, as his body of work has repeatedly shown. 

19 minutes ago, WhereIsMyMind said:

Yeah if you don't name the clinic its okay. You don't have to. I think what most people actually want is to support you and help you with the part you seem to not be able to handle.

Whatever you do, we will support it 👌

We want to help him, but we also want to help others avoid his mistake. 

I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but I've seen your pictures, and you won't look anything like him, your density from the work you had done will not be anything resembling the density he has. 

Well, I am an actual patient of Dr. Umar, he did my hairline and it simply can't be done any better than it turned out. You live in California and are considering a flight to Europe when one of the premier HT surgeons is in Redondo Beach, probably an hour or two drive? 

Alrighty then. 

4 hours ago, Oxiborick said:

What's really awful about this is the psychological impact. I thought this guy (the clinic owner) was my friend. 

Going forward, if someone is friendly toward me, I'll always suspect they're just trying to screw me over. I have autism, too, so it's hard enough for me to form friendly relations with people.

Will probably name them soon, just got to make sure I'm safe doing that first.

Did you have a personal relationship with him before your surgery? If you did not, there was no reason to think of him as your "friend", if he worked to somehow make you feel this way, simply as a paying customer, then the guy sounds like a sociopath and a con artist, which further explains how he could do such awful work and then continue lying to you and now refusing to take responsibility. There are good doctors out there, this forum is where you can find them, but trust me, this aint my first rodeo, and this guy is taking the default position that was  the primary response to bad work for many decades. Did he make you sign any disclaimers before he operated on you? If so, forget legal action, and if you didn't sign anything, know that your chances of successfully suing him lie somewhere between slim and none. 

Furthermore,  it's smart to do your research and "trust, but verify", so don't let this scumbag change your worldview. Anything medical related, from HT's to  colonoscopy, needs to be thoroughly researched and the doctors vetted. There no guarantees even if you have done your homework, and if you haven't, well, you are more likely to sit in the same chair that you did for your procedure. 

9 hours ago, Berba11 said:

Also, as well as really needing to name the clinic that did this to you (there's literally zero benefit to you or anyone else by keeping it a secret, especially now that the clinic have effectively washed their hands of you having raised your concerns), it might be worth telling us which doctors you've been talking to regarding repair work. You've already blundered into one bad clinic without doing proper research - it's critically essential that you don't do it again. Most people can just about survive one bad HT (as long as the donor isn't savaged). Two strikes and you're well & truly out...

This times ten thousand. 

1 hour ago, Oxiborick said:

Thanks for your feedback. What was your botched procedure like, if you don't mind my asking? Was it as bad as mine?

Yes, it was, but I had two things going for me: I kept my original hairline, which had always been high, and my crown was untouched (this was 25 years ago, when they were doing something called "scalp reductions'" (Google it) so my repair was limited to filling in the numerous strip scars (exclusively beard hair) and softening the hairline (scalp hair) and filling in the front half (all beard hair) and I can vouch for beard hair, because without it, I could not have been repaired. I wore a hat for 20 years I was so embarrassed by my hairline and hair plug appearance, It was a long running nightmare, and there were only a handful of doctors in the world who could have repaired me. I'm extremely grateful, and relieved,  to look normal again. 

On 11/2/2022 at 4:44 AM, Oxiborick said:

Sadly I don't really have much of a beard to speak of, but my donor is pretty extensive from what I understand (both the "clinic" under discussion here and some other doctors have told me this) and apparently they didn't completely wreck it.

It makes absolutely no difference what the clinic who did this to you said, they have proven to be utterly negligent and incompetent and you cannot take their word for anything. This clinic should not be in business, it does look like someone who had never done a transplant before. It also makes zero difference with how nice and personable they have treated you, as you now face the prospect of getting repaired with a diminished donor, and prior to this procedure you were well on your way towards a Norwood 7 scale of hair loss. 

You have to be extremely careful moving forward, you cannot read some Google reviews and pick your next clinic based off of 5 star reviews, because you don't have enough donor to repair two mistakes, it will be challenging enough to fix this as you have a large area to cover. I strongly suggest you visit with someone who specializes in repair and has a proven track record of success doing that. I speak from experience, it took me years to repair my botched procedure and I had to use beard hair, as I was long out of scalp donor. Best of luck to you.

That's what you call a layup. 

On 9/2/2020 at 11:52 PM, Gatsby said:

I had given up on hair transplants after I had several procedures to remove the punch grafts in my early 20’s. I began researching hair transplants again only four years ago when I was rejected by Dr Bhatti who I saw in person. Other hair transplant surgeons said they could go ahead but give me a limited head of hair (framing the face, filling in the forelock, etc). I declined until I spoke with Eugenix very early in the year. 

Curious, why did Dr. Bhatti reject you? Did he discuss using alternate sources, like body hair, for your restoration? I was rejected myself for any repair work, because my donor was tapped and there was nothing to work with, and then in 2014 I found Dr. Umar, and he changed my life when no one else could. Perhaps there are others out there who can do the same now, but in the U.S., there was only Dr. Umar 6 years ago. 

Sanjar, how has your repair been going? At what stage in the process are you right now?

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Thanks for the article updated. The owner sold it last month but he still never got penalized. He finally gave me back all my money after a BBB mediation but he's still doing this to others. So sad! Sanjar never responded back to me regarding his case. I hope he was able to get help.

 

Once again, the butcher walks away scot free. Young guys need to realize it is still the Wild West out there, and just because someone has Dr. in front of their name does not mean you can trust that person. Like it or not, this business is populated by some very shady people. 

If they did a poor job the first time, why trust them again to repair it to your satisfaction? It’s time to cut your losses. Don’t throw good money after bad. You have a finite amount of resources to harvest and you are squandering those visiting this clinic.

On 7/18/2019 at 12:22 PM, Hairsonality said:

@Longevita

On 10/9/2019 at 6:54 PM, Harj said:

Hi I recently had a 4000 FUE procedure from Longevita at the Estetica Levant clinic in Istanbul and it was a total nightmare. DO  NOT USE THESE PEOPLE just forget it and erase the idea from your mind, their marketing is slick and the reps will pester you on whatssapp and text and email for months.

I similarly was mainly hadled or manhandled by the two technicians who were joking and chatting and even leaning very heavily on me at some stages. The IV feed in my arm was bent and bruised and the needles they used for saline injection kept popping off the syringe. I even passed out from the anestehtic and had to be revived.

The translator kept coming in  and out making morbid jokes like `im your only friend here` and `are you dead yet` . They totally wrecked the rear of my head just over harvested it and its so patchy now its embarrasing to be seen in public. I dont expect the follicles to grow or stay as they seemed to just cut the hair off from the root each time, as I heard a snip and implant the cut hair into the slits.

Most woryingly I have been having dizziness and tingles in my spine and limbs along with aches. My doctor says there are signs of hydrocephalus or water on the brain and I have to have an MRI and CT scan. The surgeon Yasmine Turgut took some pleasure in boring into the back of my head and inserting something twice into the bores, i heard it pushing in. The translator said ` we are going to close your channels now`.  I`m worried that they have restricted the flow of CSF Cerebral Spinal Fluid between my skull and spine.

The surgeon also used a small drill later on to make small holes in my scalp unrelated to the procedure or extractions that do not seem to be healing or closing up. They said in the post op consultation to never take a bath or swim or water will enter my skull.

Basically they have a two tier service - the cheap option is at Estethica clinic and is a mightmare of extractions and bogus implants that will all fall out. I`m not sure what the results of the more expensive FUE is.

Again save your sanity, health and social lives - do not use Longevita - do not get hair transplants people treat you as a pariah - just enjoy life and be natural.

 

What kind of house of horrors is this place? Why did they use a drill to make holes in your scalp that are unrelated  to your surgery?  I'm really sorry to hear about your result, and sincerely hope there is no hydrocephalus, you have to DOCUMENT everything, get clear pictures, doctor statements, etc., you can sue this clinic but I don't know if this is viable in Turkey or not, and if you have a chance to recoup damages. I think it is a shame this forum does not have a STICKY to warn prospective clients to STAY AWAY from horror shows like this clinic. 

Did this guy ever post his results? It would seem he did at one time but I don't see them now, nor remember if he did. All I see is a picture of him right after his surgery, which does not look like it's gonna lead to a favorable result.

On 1/7/2019 at 11:09 AM, HairLossMentor said:

-grafts were taken outside the safe zone, meaning they are not resistant to DHT and he will lose them as his hair loss gets worse

- a large punch, most likely 1 mm was used. I doubt this poor guy is able to get a second procedure after this

- there is no donor management, they just harvested as many grafts as possible.

While FUE scarring is a problem… The real problem is not having enough grafts when your hair loss progresses. A lot of guys won't discover this until it's too late. Even after thousand grafts, when done wrong, FUE can destroy you donor area. FUE has been hijacked by amateur hair transplant doctors, with little desire to learn how to do it correctly… This is a great example of it.

I wave of unhappy patients is coming… This is worse than the 90s and the era of plugs. Much worse.

It's not worse than the era of plugs, not even close. No need for hyperbole, because back in the plug/minigraft era, you often had no options for repair. Today you have multiple options for repair.

It sounds to me as though you are one of those people who will never be happy with their hair. You had 1000 grafts into a very dense and thick head of hair, probably unnecessary to begin with, and now you are obsessing over your result. I think no matter what you do, you won't be happy and will continue to obsess over your hair.

Your hair looks fine. Go live your life. 

14 hours ago, 2941grafts said:

So far I don’t see any reason to regret it. Although your experience was not particularly pleasant but the work looks great actually. This clinic is not a shady plastic surgery boutique or new to HT business. Infact it is well know in Georgia/Armenia/Azerbaijan region for practicing HT for many years. Also there should be a good reason behind your home doctor recommendation. The wait game has started and I think you will be satisfied at the end.

So you think looking at his pictures that he is going to be happy with the density he'll get from the number of grafts he received? You might, but I sure don't. 

Friedman I'd suggest you spend some time looking at FUE results on this forum, and look at the immediately post-op pictures. Notice what those patients looked like in relation to the pictures you posted. Another pass is going to be necessary, but getting it done on the cheap the next time will mean you'll have limited options and very limited scalp donor, and using non scalp sources is very expensive and not nearly as reliable. You' always spend more on repairs, and your results are usually never as good as doing it right the first time. Some people have good success at the cheaper clinics in Turkey, and even India, and your risks are far lower than what you took in Georgia. 

Save your money, do your research, and get it right the next time, and you'll be a happy camper.