Jonathan

I’ve been gone from this forum for a couple of months now, did we ever get Dr Barghouthi to start his second fue trial?

6 minutes ago, Fox243 said:

Hey, I wouldn't say that. Melvin has been so helpful to our efforts and I'm gracious for all the work he's done so far.

Lol I was trying to have some playful banter but realized that’ll probably look bad online over text.

3 hours ago, Melvin- Admin said:

I think that’s extreme at this point. There’s not enough data yet. Hair transplants are tried and tested.

Melvin you say this because you used like 99% of your donor hair lol

5 minutes ago, takuma said:

that's a good question... that's why it's important that we test it for that, not just hair transplants. Because this could be a revolutionary hair loss cure even without a transplant, but we won't know if it's not tested

This idea seems far fetched though that it just “restarts” your skin/hair wherever it’s injected. We should reserve the testing for the more reasonable ideas for now. 

7 hours ago, Fox243 said:

The doc is close to ready. I will share it here and people can help make edits: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s3JkF9woMIebkXbpE_UxrjBfNy9i7AuBclDqn9HGrAo/edit?usp=sharing

Great work Fox!

On 10/7/2023 at 12:02 AM, Nikoni said:

It seems you were right Dude (((

Yep it was all just common sense haha.

14 hours ago, Nikoni said:

As I understand from his massage, testing the dosages is key. So we will need good amount of trials to find out the best dosage and potential uses ( scar repairs, hair regeneration in recipient area etc).

Maybe also worth to combine with scar gels.

Unfortunately the things are moving forward very slowly. Hopefully if Dr. Bloxhams trial shows success more doctors will be motivated to join.

If results are there, it will pick up, hopefully with Dr Bargouthi  as well, should’ve been 3 months in on our last trial but things happen.

On 9/5/2023 at 5:54 PM, Gatsby said:

Thanks Melvin. Looking back it’s a reminder of how grateful I am. I wouldn’t have even attempted this without yourself, this community and Eugenix. I also never dreamed I would have hair again, let alone the disappearance of scars in this lifetime. 🙏

Can you still grow a beard or is it too depleted?

43 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

I don’t think he should be pressured either. Rushing research is never a good thing. 

Don’t think anyone’s rushing when it’s been postponed 3-4x?

Thanks for trying guys, I think it was expected but at least we tried. Next step is for someone to communicate this info to DR B

9 hours ago, sr1486 said:

man, I remember being so confident that tsuji was THE solution. 

Imagine if we would have cured this Bs back in 2020, i remember back in like 2017-2018 that felt forever away now it feels forever ago lmao.

10 minutes ago, alopeciaphobia said:

I'd be really interested in hearing how much verteporfin that would require if done all over the donor in a full FUE. Wouldn't that be quite a bunch of visudyne bottles, which go for well over a thousand bucks each? Maybe we would have to find the support of a synthesis chemist to keep that feasible 😅.

Yes, but it would at least be doable, that would’ve and still motivates the hell out of me. I think hairloss gave me a purpose, back when Dr tsuji was supposed to be our by 2020 and it would cost 100k, I saved it up and even if the cure would cost 1mil, I’d find a way! Haha

6 hours ago, Nikoni said:

Dear @DrTBarghouthi, I wad reading the beginning of this thread, and you were  really enthusiastic willing to try different possibilities.  Now we've been waiting for  a new trial for more than a year, and we don't hear much updates from you.

You were first to try Verteporfin and  we are really grateful for that, none of us has any right to put a pressure on you, but I think we have right to know your plans regarding future trials.

I hope you are still with us, and many disruptive circumstances that happened during last year are in the past, and the things will start moving forward faster, but please in any case good or bad, let us know about your plans.

Lol how can you possibly dislike this? I think everyone understands this wouldn’t be possible at all without Barghouthi. It’s like you can’t ask to be kept updated without people thinking you’re being ungrateful. In any other circumstance EVER, you say a date and everyone will keep you accountable for that date except for on this forum where we have to just be bent over and take it.

5 hours ago, MrFox said:

That’s not what I said at all. I agree we should continue with the 2nd FUE trial with Dr. Bargouthi and not wait. The only point I was making is that we should not be discouraged by one interview being pushed back. 

Ahh ok, I must’ve gotten you confused with the other fox, this forums only big enough for one of them. 😂😂

36 minutes ago, alopeciaphobia said:

I'm sad to admit that I'm also struggling not to lose faith in a second FUE trial happening anytime soon. Looking at how many times something caused it to have been postponed since the original goal date of August/September 2022, and even after the incredible $15k donation, it's hard not to see a never ending pattern.

Agreed, date keeps being postponed left and right then no updates for weeks, postponed no updates after, postponed. Never ending cycle, we do have to keep fighting if we want there to be a difference tjough.

34 minutes ago, MrFox said:

It hasn't been posted yet by Dr. Bloxham, that being said the initial photos are not going to prove or disprove anything at this point. We need to let the healing process happen, and that is going to take a few months. The point is that there is research being conducted, so it is not as if one interview is going to derail the other trials. 

Exactly my point, you’re speaking about it as if doing the FUE is now useless without Dr Verteporfin masters profound advice that keeps being rescheduled. Not against that but use it for the next trial rather than waiting potentially months or even a whole trial time worth. FUE and FUE are both completely different and deserve to both be tested differently rather than acting like the results will be the same on both.

20 minutes ago, MrFox said:

We have the current trial with Dr. Bloxham on FUT, the surgery already happened so it's not like we are not seeing any progress.

What’s the progress so far then?

On 8/6/2023 at 2:44 PM, Fox243 said:

Why? FUT is predicted to show a greater difference in results because of increased SHH signaling. Can you please explain the science of how an FUE could work while an FUT might not? 

Science can work in funky ways, we have at least a little bit of proof that it works in FUE, with 0 proof that it works in FUT. Also Melvin and him rescheduled for the 28th, proves my point that days turns to weeks to months. Wouldn’t doubt it if it just gets pushed onto next year at this point. 

38 minutes ago, Fox243 said:

We already have Dr. Bloxham doing a new trial with feedback from Dr Barghouthi. There’s not much to improve on that. There’d be a lot of redundancy. 

FUT Vs FUE, huge difference.

On 8/5/2023 at 10:31 AM, Fox243 said:

Why should we not wait for Longaker? If we can find out in a week or two, that would be huge. Could mean the difference between success and failure. We've waited so long anyways -- one to two weeks is nothing compared to that.

Because we’ve already had success, of course limited and it’s possible that there’s things we can improve on, this trial was scheduled to start around April/may if I’m not mistaken, two weeks can turn into months which can turn into never. Let’s just do the trial how we did it before with different dosages as planned and keep moving forward, if longaker has advice we can do it on the next trial. Just my opinion.

@Melvin- Moderator He said it won’t regrow hair and now we can’t all be chads like you huh? Just give us the bad news! 😂😂

Wow this guy looks like he’s in his early 30s, hot girlfriend as well, living the life, congrats.

Melvin the goat

11 hours ago, Square1 said:

Great work!

A while ago, a backer donated around 15.000 to fund a trial. Has that trial already begun?

That’s what is funding the next trial that will start very soon or already started and dr Barghouthi will update that with us very soon.

12 hours ago, MrFox said:

Guys we are all on the same team here! If there was complications let’s give Killian and the surgical team the benefit of the doubt. I think it’s important to remember that anyone taking this drug is serving as a test subject so it is up to the individual to make that judgment call of risk tolerance. Let’s just keep looking forward to more updates with all of the trials going forward! 

Completely agree, the problem is right after the surgery, telling your viewers you’ll have updates about verteporfin soon, hyping everyone up just to announce on your video you didn’t actually use it. That just makes you look like an attention seeker. But I agree with you on everything else.