BaldGuy

24 minutes ago, Jamie79 said:

Hello . Has any been to dr Cinik in Istanbul? Is he a decent surgeon with a track record ? Thank you 

You can search for Dr Cinik's results on this forum by typing his name on the search bar. In the link below you can find results of Cinik and information as well:

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/search/?&q=CINIK&quick=1&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy

HLC, Pekiner and Freitas are at the same level and they are top options for hairlines. HDC is lower level than the other three. I think on this forum, there are more people going to HLC. In HLC and Pekiner all steps of the procedure are done by doctor (implantation and extraction), which is quite important fact.

I have seen a very bad case from HDC (Dr Maras), which is the following:

Great Result and super natural. Congrats 😃

I think thats a very good result. The hairline looks sof and natural... Very happy for you. 😃

4 hours ago, humezzz said:

Yes, exactly. The technician is very experienced and knows his Job. The clinic does a maximum of 2 Patients per day.

Thank you for these details. The fact that dr Turan does up to 2 patients per day is very good...It seems like you did a very good choice with Dr turan at a very good price. Waiting for your updates.

3 hours ago, humezzz said:

Thank you! Sorry if I use wrong words or phrases. As a Iranian born and raised in Germany, English is not my mother language  

I am 31 and suffer from hair loss since my early 20s. I thought about getting a procedure for a long time. Probably would've done it 2 years earlier without Covid. I started using Fin and Min since 18 months which was perfect timing, so I guess it's alright to have done it now. 

At first you have to know here in Germany there are 2 clinics which are very popular. Elithair and Cosmedica both have 2 small clinics/offices here in Dusseldorf to consult their patients and they do a lot of marketing here. Dr. Levent Acar even speaks german and they have german YouTube channels with tons of content which makes them very popular in here. I discarded Elithair right away as I knew they had many bad results but Cosmedica seemed fine and I liked some of their work. However after consulting with them I started researching more intensely and got to this forum and the famous Facebook group where I heard about those hair mills. Cosmedica quoted 3700€ for up to 5000 grafts with the team doing all of the surgery or 5000€ for Dr. Acar doing the implantations. 

After some more research I contacted Fuecapilar in June and they sent me 2 proposals (Dr. Turan and Dr. Gur). Dr. Turan proposed to do 4000 grafts, restoring and lowering the hairline without transplanting the crown in a 2 day procedure (4000 Euros). Dr. Gur wanted to go with 3000 grafts without lowering the hairline (3500 Euros). My biggest priority was to go at least a bit lower with my hairline instead of transplanting more densely because I have thick and wavy hair which helps making my hair look more dense than it actually is.

So I went with Turan. They told me I can come in February 23, but soon after someone cancelled his surgery which was scheduled 22/23 December and I took the date happily. I flew to Istanbul 2 days earlier with my fiancé and asked Fuecapilar if they could pick me up from the hotel in Istanbul instead of the airport, which was no problem. On Wednesday, 21st they picked us up and drove us o the hospital to take some blood and then to the hotel in Avcilar. The Hotel was really nice and clean. We had a large room with a large bed.

The next day our driver, who was perfectly on time always, picked me up at 9.15. At the Hospital we did the consultation first. My translator Jon is a cool guy, very friendly, speaks perfect english. They asked about my expectations, which I told them (restoring and lowering the hairline). We agreed that I continue my current treatment, which contains 3mg Finasteride per week and Minoxidil once daily. However, I will top up my Finasterid dosage by 1 and after some time 2 mg per week, as I have zero side effects. 

I signed the papers, they took pictures, shaved my head and began to draw the hairline after measuring my face. At this point 6-7 people were staring at me, speaking in turkish and discussing my hairline. However, their first approach was fine by me. I remember thinking that I did not even expect them to go that low. Now I think it's still a bit conservative but it fits my facial proportions and age and everyone tells me it's perfect.

After that they gave me a Xanax, which somehow never really kicked in. Jon told me I would definitely feel it, but I guess it came very softly and made me relax a bit during the surgery.  Then they took more pictures with the drawn hairline and I went into the surgery room. Really felt nervous at this point and I think my blood pressure was saying the same  After they put in the needle for the IV into my hand (really hurt) I felt dizzy. Really not a great start for all of this. They told me to lay down which immediately helped. They gave me 5 minutes to relax, asking up to 10 times if I was okay lol. Generally, during the whole 2 days they asked at least every 30 minutes of everything was fine and if I was okay, making me feel being in good hands. After the 5 minutes their anesthetic guy started to do the pre anesthetic. To be honest somehow this was more unpleasant than the needles. Don't get me wrong, the needles burn. The first one burns the most and with every single other the burning gets lighter. But I really expected it to be badder than it was. The pain is gone after 2-3 seconds. Some areas of the scalp hurt more. The forehead is really not a good place to get needles into, but it's really nothing to be too afraid of. After the incisions are done, you don't feel anything. They start taking out the grafts which sounds funny, but you can relax. 

On day 1, they took about 2000-2100 grafts. The last 1,5-2 hours were the worst. I didn't go to the bathroom prior, so I really had to take a pee and my back hurt bad from laying. So I was really really happy when they told me I'm finished for the day. I entered my hotel room at 6 PM looking like this:

 

 

The next day, I was picked up at 9.15 again. Went straight into surgery room. This time the IV-needle was no problem, but my blood pressure was. I didn't feel as nervous as the day before but somehow my body reacted like this. After 5-10 minutes blood pressure was fine again and they started to do the anesthetics again. No problem again, maybe slightly more painful than the day before, but really tolerable still. I squeezed the stress ball they gave me and went through it. Btw: they asked me to tell them immediately if I feel anything during the implantation phase. They told me I shouldn't feel anything while they're implanting because this could affect the grafts from being placed properly. Maybe 5-8 times I felt it and told them to give me more anesthetic. To be clear, it didn't hurt, but I felt it, so I told them. At this stage the needles didn't even hurt as bad, because my scalp was so numb I guess.

After lunch break I saw a lot of people running in the floors, which made me curious. Jon told me the doctors mum has an emergency, nothing serious, but Dr. Turan needs 30 minutes to check after her downstairs in the hospital. I took a chat with Jon about football and turkish politics. They brought me fruits and tea. After maybe an hour Dr. Turan was back and we went on. 

At the end of the day they took another 1500 grafts so after the 2 days they implanted about 3600 grafts. They told me my donor area has very soft skin which made it a bit complicated to extract the grafts. It bleed more than it does with other patients. This was the first reason they didn't go with the full 4000. Other reason was that after examining my hair they saw that I don't need more than that, as I have thick and wavy/curly hair and can expect very good results with this amount. 

The whole team is very nice and friendly, they took great care of me and really did a great job. I can recommend going to Dr. Turan. He is an expert and really knows what he's doing. 

Thanks for the detailed post. Its very descriptive.4000€ for a 2 day procedure with Dr Turan seems very fair price.  So Dr Turan does the plan, design and implantation of grafts while a technician is doing the extractions?

Awesome result...Are you on meds?

Thanks for sharing your journey. Nice hairline design and density on hairline. Dr Turan seems to be quite popular choice in Turkey. Can you share with us more about your whole experience there and also the cost of your surgery?

I wish you all the best!!

On 3/5/2022 at 6:50 AM, Tony711 said:

 

He took one look at my beard and my chest hair and said we can give you full head of hair!!   Probably 10,000 to 12000 grafts.    I was not expecting that, he said let’s do 3000 grafts.  So we decided to do 3000 instead of 2000. 
518 was scalp and 2500 beard.  
 

He told me my beard is very good and can probably do the crown too. 
 

 

 

 

If you read the initial description it says that Dr Sethi told to @Tony711that his beard is very good and he can extract 10000-12000 hairs from beard and chest...So he can give him a full head of hair. Thats why Dr sethi got this case, because he felt that he could give a full head of hair with the OP's beard grafts...Otherwise he would refuse him as a patient.

However the first surgery was not successful as it was expected and the majority of his 2500 beard grafts did not survive, therefore i dont think that Dr Sethi still believes that he can give a full head of hair to @Tony711.

The best solution for the OP is to shave his head, do an SMP and get a money refund from Eugenix for the lost beard grafts.

Great hairline design. Happy growing ! Can you tell us which parts of the procedure were done by dr sethi himself and which ones by the techs ?

10 hours ago, Gatsby said:

TWELVE MONTH UPDATE 

I can’t believe that in 10 days I will have reached one year since my surgery at Eugenix with Dr Sethi. This has been the best thing that I have done for myself bar none. It’s an incredible feeling to be able to finally jump in the car and head off without worrying about scars, hair pieces, etc. In ten days I head off to have my second and last procedure. I cannot thank this forum enough for giving me the courage to get back in the chair. It’s to this community that I owe a massive debt of gratitude that I will never be able to repay. So here are the pics in the same spot outdoors with no fibres for the twelfth time. 
 

Congrats Gatsby. this is a massive transformation! 😀

On 1/4/2023 at 1:29 PM, Bandit90 said:

Month 10 Update 

Happy new year all! Thought I would change things up for the month 10 update and share photos in harsher outdoor lighting. I’m pleased with the overall density of the results so far and even under the toughest lighting conditions i.e. outdoors, it still gives the appearance of a relatively fullish-looking head of hair for the front and mid-scalp which I am delighted with. Crown-wise I am now at month 3, and still not a huge amount to report, I can certainly tell this is going to be a lot slower growing than the front, but that’s common knowledge I suppose. The implanted hairs into the side corridors on the second sitting are also starting to come through.  All in all very happy to date and sometimes have to remind me of my starting position. Very much a working project, however I am hoping to be one of the lucky higher norwoods who are done in two sitting.  

Really good result on the frontal part. Congrats! For crown is still early now..The hairs that are visible now in your crown are beard grafts? Cause they look much darker compared to your native hair..

If you take finasteride and minoxidil, then there's no reason for PRP, which is also quite expensive and not as effective as the other two.

13 hours ago, RTC said:

Despite the hairline not growing in the way I want it to thus far, I have to say, the temples have grown in beautifully and the re-shaping of the hairline makes me look so much better (especially from far). Mwamba removed hairs at the corners and bolstered the temples, and credit where credit is due, there is a vast improvement.

There are a few hairs that weren't caught first time round, if I did go back for a second procedure I'd definitely remove them.

If the hairline grows in the way I want it to I will be a very happy man, but it remains to be seen. 

 

Temporal peaks indeed look nice and natural, but the problem with your case is the sparse hairline and its see through effect. If the density wont change by the next month, it will be a problem... I wish you good luck !

Perfect result already with an awesome hairline...

Any update here? The result was dissapointing with low yield until month 7

2 minutes ago, 5BetaReductase said:

No idea as I haven’t consulted with them. I would ask one of the patients here. I do know however that they have multiple locations as well.

If they have multiple locations and different doctors, then they can afford many patients per day i suppose...

7 minutes ago, 5BetaReductase said:

The demand is high, in part, due to the marketing. There are at least 3 other sites that I am aware of that eugenix pays to be part of. This is on top of the YouTube videos they put out. It’s not like they didn’t see this coming. They literally paid to make this happen. Although I think there might be some truth to offering lower tiered packages to help patients in India with costs, this is not in any way a charity.
 

So what do you do when the demand is high (per your own plan)? You scale the business. You bring in “junior doctors,” “senior doctors,” and more technicians that you delegate more parts of the surgery to.

 

I personally am not on board with this. I think eugenix has the ability to put out good results and they have. But I have also seen cases too many posted cases where there were technical mistakes and errors. Was this just coincidence or because they are juggling far too many patients at once?

 how many hair transplants per day do you think are done in Eugenix clinic?

Happy growing man. Looks solid work. With too many grafts in a small area you will get a pretty dense result! Can i ask you something? why you did not do the hair transplant with Dr Bisanga in BHR clinic in Athens, like you did with the consultation ?

Good to see more Freitas patient cases...Nice surgeon choice. all the Best !

You are going to get good coverage with this number of grafts on that specific area. With the second procedure it will be a massive transformation. I will following your jurney ! Happy growing !

On 12/6/2022 at 12:47 PM, Bandit90 said:

Month 9 Update 

The front and mid-scalp seem to be making subtle improvements month after month, I’m noticing the hair is becoming slightly less wiry too. I have probably reached the peak now for the front and growth-wise I don’t think anymore will come, except for the side parting corridors and the area behind the temples, which had grafts implanted in sitting two. Crown-wise I’m on month 2 and very much in the ugly duckling phase, although I do notice that some of the beard hair implanted hasn’t shed and is growing. Also really pleased with the donor area, considering I have had 5,800 grafts taken from there this year.  

Eugenix is a top choice for higher norwoods. The frontal part looks awesome...Excellent progress so far in your second hair transplant..I think by the end of your second hair transplant you will get a total transformation! Keep us update !