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Donor doesn't look too bad after extraction of 2400 grafts, for someone that 'supposedly' already had a below average donor before this hair transplant..

I'm even more curious how it looks when growing it out!

Do you know how much is left for maybe another procedure in the future?

On 10/11/2023 at 5:40 AM, jjalay said:

Dermmatch can cause contact dermatitis and harm your grafts with poor growth as a result.

Do you have proof for this claim, even if anecdotal?

Not saying you are wrong, but just curious..

So your concern is to be left with a hairy hairline and a balding mid-scalp + crown?

I get that, but most men have ±6000 donor grafts available, so you could maybe have enough to even out the front part with the mid-scalp to make it a bit more natural over time? Or choose a very low density for your mid-scalp + crown and go with hair fibers? Or a hair system behind the hair line.

Maybe not ideal, but I'm trying to think of solutions for you..

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On 8/3/2022 at 11:07 AM, NARMAK said:

This thread unfortunately exemplifies why the average Joe mentally justifies going to a hair mill. 

They are dealing with a depressing enough situation losing hair and confidence in an ever increasingly superficial social media age to look good and then are priced out of the quality surgeons and their options to turn to hair mills and play Russian Roulette with techs hoping they don't get the worst result and it looks better than they started with even if the hairline has more multi grafts and a bit more of a pluggy look. 

Personally i still think saving up a little smart and planning can get you a better place than a hair mill, but some people are going to be in between a rock and hard place based on dwindling economic opportunities. 

Hair mills take advantage of desperate people with hair loss and their naivety . Reputable docs take advantage of the fact that they are a minority in this business and up their prices to an extend where it's impossible to pay for the average Joe.

The thought of this makes me ill, though I understand that's how a free market works.

Governments should supervise/regulate clinics that do cosmetic surgery way more, as many surgeries go horribly wrong. Not only hair transplants, but lip fillers, botox, breast implants, you name it. Especially now social media have become a big influence on people.

Appreciate all your insights.

I get that people advise against taking a loan. Though I can't be the only one debating on being either miserable with my hair, or pinching pennies for 10 years with a happy head of hair.

3 minutes ago, mr_peanutbutter said:

tbh people get in debt to buy a car which they often dont really need so i dont see too muvh of a problem

That’s fair..

2 hours ago, mr_peanutbutter said:

how much euros are we talking?

All relative in my opinion. I meant paying off a debt for a cosmetic procedure in general..

2 hours ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

From what I can tell, lots of people on this forum have taken out loans in order to get HT's. 

Personally, I think this is totally insane, but it does seem that a lot of guys do it. 

 

I try to rationalize it by comparing it to loans for lets say a nice car, which isn't a high priority for me. Or something else expensive that people sometimes buy.

But when do you know you're taking things too far though..

Question
This might be a subjective question, but do you all think I'm willing to give too much, and/or should seek help elsewhere?

Context
My self-confidence (like many others here) is heavily dependent on my hair. You could say that not being bald is a minimum requirement for me to live a normal social and corporate life.

I've had a hair transplant that wasn't well-executed, so I'm in need of a repair. My first HT cost quite a lot of my savings. However, I earn an average wage (or slightly above) and I cannot settle for anything less than the absolute best in terms of a new procedure, since there's no more room for mistakes.

Would it be excessive to take out a long-term loan (>10 years) for something like a hair transplant?

I think that those who advise against it aren't confident enough that people micro-needle correctly. Which is understandable because you see more and more DIY derma rolling instructions over social media that are way too hard, and not careful, which could lead to scarring.

Microneedling with a derma-stamp without to much pressure/friction should be fine.

On 9/30/2023 at 8:14 PM, WreckedOne said:

he wanted me to test for it. But he didn’t say I can test in Europe (he said he doesn’t trust doctors here)

Did you actually test this in Europe as well? To confirm or deny his claims? 

Scarring due to the surgery doesn't always mean scarring alopecia. So if a damaged follicle is being examined, it could look like something it's not.
Did you have blood tests to see if you have a high level of anti-immune cells?

Just curious..

On 9/28/2023 at 11:47 PM, Melvin- Admin said:

I think you need to start at a frequency of 1x per week and slowly move up. Using it daily right off the bat is NOT a good idea. 

Do you know the shelf life of Xyon?

I believe it is in fact a good treatment, if used correctly and with the right tool (something not a lot of people do). 
 

Vigorous rolling with a roller I would advice against. Controlled usage with a dermastamp should be benefitial for absorption of topicals and creating collagen in the scalp.

I like to see surgeons saving peoples lives instead of only choosing the most convenient patients.

On 9/12/2023 at 9:51 AM, A_4_Archan said:

Skill and Technique of the Surgeon: While the surgeon's skill and experience are crucial, even the best surgeons cannot control all the variables mentioned above. However, choosing a skilled and experienced surgeon can certainly increase the chances of a successful outcome.

May I add to this the variety of techs/assistants that operate at a specific clinic. A clinic where the doc almost does all the work him-/herself has the same results most of the time. Good or bad..

Based on the post-op pics I would say the hairs grew, but the native hairs mid-scalp fell. You could try to even out the edges by going for more density behind the hairline region and go for a maturing balding crown over time.

I personally doubt your blood levels are that significant, if you are on the low side, but still within the normal reference values. Those levels are nowhere near anemia, right?

Someone on here with the right background, please contradict me if I'm wrong, because this is advanced knowledge. If this is important information, I think the whole network should know.

Why won't surgeons make blood tests mandatory, if otherwise?

Sometimes bad placed grafts can be replaced. Not ideal for sure, but possible if you got the funds for a good doc.

On 5/11/2023 at 3:43 AM, Hair4Days said:

Yeah your donor actually looks good to be honest. I’m surprised that’s only 50 fu with miniaturization 

Indeed. If this doesn't look like a dense, healthy donor, I don't know what does.

But I'm not an expert..

Sorry to hear,

To be fair your situation doesn't look too bad. I would try to salvage the situation with Minoxidil and Finasteride. Slighter thinner hair on the top isn't a weird look if you ask me. And if you disagree you could always use some concealer. Women wear make up everyday. Why shouldn't us men do the same?

The hairs in the front look like transplanted hairs to me. Are you sure nothing has come through?

3 minutes ago, Bandit90 said:

Even more so! Much higher risk of cross-contamination when using topical fin, things like your pillow case could easily be touched by your pregnant partner. On the other hand oral pills are film coated to project against cross-contamination. As long you are comfortable with oral fin maybe stick with this and use necessary protections during intercourse to eliminate  fin contamination risk. There are plenty of physician reps on here who would be able to you a much better and rounded.  @Rahal Hair Transplant  is generally one of the best on here. 

Thanks for sharing! Good points.

So your opinion is no continued use of fin before and while trying to impregnate? And after scoring the goal to resume oral fin and use protection.

Hi all,

There have been some discussion about using fin while conceiving or having intercourse with a pregnant partner.

Does this apply to topicals aswell, because those are less systemic?

What are your thoughts?

On 4/22/2023 at 2:07 PM, ThePerseverantWarrior said:

2.5 months on oral minoxidil. I don't think my shedding has stopped. Nor do I see any improvement whatsoever in my situation yet. Maybe it's too early. Or maybe, it's not working for me. No excessive body hair growth either. 

I'm going to give it at least another 3 months before taking a call. 

I don't think you should worry though. Shedding on switching medication is usually a positive sign. 1 month is too short a time to lose hairs due to stopping topical minoxidil, so it may be oral minoxidil induced shedding. Those hairs are likely to come back stronger

Thanks for sharing! Hope all works out for you

5 minutes ago, uk005801 said:

I had same but everything came back stronger in my view mate so hang in there touch wood no sides bar more hair in other areas but nothing major, I also think I get in grow hairs on chest but maybe due to me shaving the growth I don’t want from minox but small price to pay 

Appreciate it! 🫶
Let's hope for the best..