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I'd like to bump this thread, I have the same question. Obviously, nobody has been to both places, so we'll never get a true evaluation on the question... but I'm really leaning to Eugenix, Dr. Gur has results and they look great and the videos from Grant are excellent, it's just that Eugenix seems to me like such a well-oiled machine and folks here who have great experiences there are so detailed and numerous.

For Eugenix it's a bit more travel for me and doctor involvement is a bit less (exclusive package), but their method of slits then DHT and the tech team that goes to work in that process seems super competent from what I've seen. So that's very appealing. Bu then so do the results from Dr Gur, very soild and his techs clearly do adequate work

@NARMAK I know you're happy with your trip but have a couple pending issues at this point.... if you had it to do all over again would you do anything differently?

@Gatsby Obviously, you're stoked, great results. Do you ever think man maybe I could have gone to (insert alternate clinic)...

@Ryan Daniel I guess same questions to you as above, your results have been great and your detailed experience echos most all I read. Any second thoughts ever?

I guess that's it... would love to hear some thoughts on this or aspects of Eugenix that maybe got glossed over in your reviews that made it special for you or perhaps you think back and think that wasn't all that cool. Thanks!

Excellent results for what was done! A second pass will totally square things up up top. What a great graft success rate!

Nice update, looking like all is going according to plan!

You're gonna be ok... rest easy. We'll see how this fares in a few months and you can continue to research options for the future, but for two months now you're looking ok in the donor I'd say.

Yes shiny egg... that's what they say about fin. If you tolerate fin which most people do, you can be at 1mg and stablize things then look at a procedure. and I've seen fue results that I can't tell a difference... but be sure to research and go to for a quality procedure. You're close to some great and reasonable places being in France.

Man looks great so far! Nice update. 

Yep what Gatsby said... you're gonna be ok... but dang I def understand the worry with it after wacking her head like that and having to deal with all that. But you're good bud, rest easy.

Great results! 

Been researching options and this is just an exceptional thread.... great results and love the detailed thread! Much appreciation!

Rico excellent results bud, how about a roughly 9 month update! Also how was your travel... were you there for as they suggest day 1 arrive, day 2 surgery, day 3 checkup, day 4 wash then fly out?

Yeah you'd want to bring that line back closer to the current hairline as @Doron Harati suggests and then fill those recessions and have it all balance into the temple area and for that I'd spitball a guess at around like 2500 as well, maybe up to 3k. Keep in mind where the line is drawn isn;t what the look is like when the hair is all grown, the hair extends out some even if styled with gel up. 

Additionally, once this gets done... it's a waiting game and procress to endure... trust that if that begins a month or so off from your ideal time frame it's better to have the right situation because once you're down the road at say 6 or 8 months post op you'll be far happier to be sailing with great results from a proven doc

Yep what Pbaird said... and I'd say for those price quotes, save some money and  travel and enjoy Brussels or Athens with BHR... I'm sure you can comb through here and find some other great options! 

Grant, really great result and phenomenal documentation via those videos and what a great result! Congrats man. 

Couple questions, I read Dr. Gur does pre made incisions, was that your experience? Sorry you may have mentioned it but as im sure you'll recall in researching all this stuff it kinda runs together. Also anything about the techs contributions that stand out in your experience? 

Yea this is common and I don't believe it's any different in extraction. Estimates... maybe about 75-100 grafts in a thin small scar and going up up from there

This doesn't concern me too much and listen I'm a definite there needs to be growth at six months person.... but I think this looks pretty ok. I'm not seeing any bare spots or anything alarming. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see this be a great result. You have lots of growth in there and likely lots in there that's just getting going or transitioning from wispy almost invisible hairs to better caliber. Maybe I'm seeing those pics wrong but it looks like you're well on your way.

You've come to the right place. I imagine that graft count is in the ball park, maybe some bumping it up to 4k. I'd really research and be open to travel with this if I were you, being in the UK you've got some great options not too far away.  What they drew on you is alright, always keep in  mind that that line is deceptive because the hairs pop from that line some even if styling the hair up. I would say explore the temple area a little... not necessarily creating temporal peaks given those appear naturally non existent but make sure that blend is smooth in any design you choose. This design is pretty solid, I'd just keep that aspect in mind as you look at what others have done who have similar hairlines. 

I can't speak to the cigarette issue, but yes 100% about the other stuff. That's all bound to help. Also be sure to sleep correctly with the neck pillow for 7 days if not 10 full days and keep the graft area clean and don't touch the area. Follow the clinic guidelines to a T. 

Excellent, thanks for the insight! It's much appreciated!

3 minutes ago, Steve B said:

I wasn’t able to do the first wash there. I was in Turkey over a weekend so the office was closed Sunday. I flew in Sat, had the procedure on Monday and then left Tuesday after a checkup. If she recommends doing the wash, I’d go for it. The timing just didn’t work out for me.

Cool, wow so you had a quick turn around. I keep thinking I'd want to hang in country and let grafts take but then I see folks like you who are jet setting around hardly 48hrs out from surgery😅 and not having an issue whatsoever with results. It's a long flight, were you keeping the grafts sprayed down in flight?

Great results, did you have them do that first wash before you left? You mentioned 3 nights, was that your stay? Really phenomenal results thus far!

Looking good should be all growing from here! I'm also in the US and am considering Dr. Bicer among others, just trying to evaluate the travel logistics and time to allot around the day of the surgery. Your experience thus far speaks volumes in her favor.

Oh I just mean post op... follow clinic instructions and I like to error on the side of extra caution. So usually by day seven you can get back to normal on some things, grafts have taken root... but I think like 10 days is safer. Some guys are trying to get back into the gym on day 5 and things and I just think hold tight and follow instructions and endure the pain in the neck it is to sleep with the weird neck pillow and shower with care and stuff like that.

Narmak,, this looks great I gotta say. For six months you have the established hairline and growth, from six months forward its all about getting fuller and more robust. 

Yep happy nails it... better worth it to go short before hand and get folks being like oh short hair a month or so before then take a week off during procedure and then return no one will notice a thing then slowly grow your hair back out over the falling months... trust that you don't want to jam up long term results or compromise best results over something like this