Nelly

On 7/1/2023 at 8:58 PM, TEXAN35 said:

Of course, the basic requirement is that doctors do all the design and incision.

I would prefer if the Doctor can do some implantation specially in critical areas like hairline or in temple. Also, I would prefer a doctor to be in the operating room around 20-25% of the time at least monitoring the work of the tech. if we are paying 5 to 10 K , I think it's reasonable to expect the Doctor to spend 2-3 hrs in the Operating room.

The treatment should be fair to all their patients.

I think that it’s more than reasonable. I think all doctors need to take higher levels of accountability. I’m seeing an ever increasing volume of doctors attempting several cases in the course of the day, which is clearly to line their pockets with as much income as possible. 
 

as safe as the procedure is there are ethics and good will and a doctor just being there as a name sake is shocking. 
 

It’s a shame there isn’t a gold standard that all clinics and doctors should aim for. 
 

assuming it would be bad for the industry but would be a lot better for the patients potentially wanting to have work done. 

1 hour ago, asterix0 said:

5 euros per graft is the price I believe

Not bad at all but 8000 grafts 40k euros damn! Anomaly surgeon anomaly prices 

This is just unbelievable. Great surgeon donor is pretty much as good as it can get after that many grafts. 
 

hiw much did he charge

3 hours ago, mr_peanutbutter said:

i think as long as they dont tag both the surgeons and the technicians (by name) both incision any extractions should be done by the surgeon. incision is a no brainer but even with extraction you can really damage the grafts; so if its done by technicians it should be known to the people who of the technician has done the extraction if you present a case. the technician will be as important as the surgeon then. 

 

 

i noticed both @DrMunibAhmad and dr zarev are basically do everything and they have the best results (including survival rate of the grafts). however obviously this comes with a price tag many cant pay.

That’s interesting. I agree a technician doing the extraction should be named. There is a political issue that I’ve just thought about and I suppose it is a barrier to entry. If surgical extraction is delegated because it is technically challenging to retrieve grafts a new surgeon can relatively easily enter the fray and do incisions only. Maybe that’s why particularly here in the U.K. the old guard is very anti-tech extraction. 
 

but imo I think any cuts made into the skin should be done by a doctor. And also if possible doctor to implant. But must be a Herculean task to do all 3 so can understand implanting done by techs. 
 

grafts can still be damaged on implantation.

4 hours ago, mr_peanutbutter said:

this is actually a very valuable thread. this or something similar is pin-worthy

What’s your opinion?

So preference should be:

doctor extracts

doctor does incisions

technicians replace grafts and separate

and a max of 2 surgeries in a day.
 

I agree with the above. I don’t think an unlicensed person should be making any cuts in someone’s head. By the same token you wouldn’t train a recpetionist to start cutting into someone’s brain just because they have experience, and skills. They should be licenced to do so.

Do we know if there is any licensing arrangements  for techs? Are they insured to cut into peoples head? 
 

I know physician assosciates are now heavily involved which is more ethical imo and licenced nurses who do minor procedures. 
 

And surely you wouldn’t pay 10-20k dollars to have a doc do 1 hours worth of work I.e just the incisions. Seems ludacris

Your decision at the end of the day but it looks decent the way it is. Have you got any thoughts/ ideas on where you’d want a hair line to be placed? Maybe design something and post a picture of it

I think we should discuss in an open and transparent way the surgical steps taken in doing FUE and the role of each team member as a whole in each step.  This is so that a clear indication is given on what is deemed gold standard and what isn’t?

FUE: 

hair line design should be done by operating surgeon. I’ve read and herd clinics allow other members of staff or patients to draw their own hair line? 

There is no clear consensus on any forum I’ve seen that a doctor should make the cuts into the donor area for extracting the follicles. What are peoples opinion on this. Should it be delegated to a tech or should the doctor do this.

seperation of grafts use of microscopes to be done by doc or tech?

incisions done by doc or tech. Surely same creedance applies to both extraction and incisions. But mostly doctors will do this part.
 

implantation should this be done by doctors or techs? Forceps or implanter pens.

would be interesting to read the communities thoughts on this. 
 

Imo, docs should do the extracting and incisions. And I know some doctors are moving into doing implantation with forceps too. 
 

Mate this guy is a f**king genius! No way in gods earth are you going to think you’ve ever had a hair transplant. Kudos to the doc. How does he get such soft single hair follicles even in the darkest of hairs 

On 6/21/2023 at 1:14 AM, HappyMan2021 said:

this is the majority of surgeons, including most of the "elites" 🤣

Yes messed up industry to be fair, why do patients allow those who are not doctors cut into their skin. I mean does it mean I can start doing it if I wanted to without any medical knowledge 

Dont worry about it too much your entering a shedding phase and will go on to lose most of the implanted hairs from week 3

Favorite Five HT Doctors*

1)zarev

2)nusbaum

3)munib Ahmed

4)schambach

5)Lorenzo

Worst

1) difficult one I think a surgeon attempting to perform several procedures a day and delegating the bulk of the process should be a big red flag

Most Overrated

1) Bicer (she uses a large number of grafts in smaller areas. A good surgeon should utilise the least number of grafts to get maximum output)

Most Underrated

1)  Mittal

2) Laorwang

3) Pinto

Best Value

1) Laorwang from a pure price point and outcome perspective 

1 minute ago, RTC said:

You are right, and his work is decent from what I've seen. But the reviews just rankle me. And Nelly the Elephant comes across as a real creep tbh

This guy forever the keyboard warrior. Mate you know you’re doing a disservice to other ptients not a service. Until you see the guy get to know his work and his ptients you haven’t got a clue. And I won’t back down on this one because if the above ptient is real and there’s no reason to think he isn’t, given what he has written half way through the thread, then no wonder he doesn’t come back to repost. You’re a demoralising t*t. If you haven’t got anything constructive to say keep your keyboard firmly tucked away. 

2 minutes ago, RTC said:

I don't like shady marketing techniques and boiler plate reviews clearly provided by the surgeon to patients so they can post.

You come across like a 'Dr Mani' stan. Literally every time he is mentioned you pop up.

And every time any one writes anything positive about the guy you try and put him down. What a guy. I am keen on seeing how patients get on with him especially based off my experience. And pal there are several reviews lengthy reviews with constant updates and engagement on this site. You are just a sad mofo. Ahaha and this guy was also commented on Dr Mani Mittal being the worst. You’re a joker!

6 minutes ago, RTC said:

@Nellydo you work for 'Dr Mani' in any capacity?

Bro you’ve got it bad for Dr Mani. Almost as though you work for a clinic in some capacity or whatever an earth you asked earlier  A frequent hater of his. No idea why?! Someone must have broken you real bad.  Have you had any experience of him? Or spoken with the guy. Or you just a sour individual and trying to tarnish the guys reputation 

Just now, RTC said:

@Nellydo you work for 'Dr Mani' in any capacity?

No I do not. Just a happy patient in contact with the clinic for my finasteride every 6 months 

1 minute ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Surgeons are invited to post here on our surgeons section. However, any patient can post or share their reviews from any surgeon.

So to be clear surgeons need a formal invite before they can post? 

On 6/17/2023 at 12:34 AM, Berba11 said:

It doesn't read like the most authentic review. At best it reads like this patient was asked to come on here and post rather than someone who came here of their own accord to engage and document their journey. The work looks really good nevertheless, If Dr Mani is asking patients to post here (which is fine), it would be nice if Dr M himself posted and offered his insights, experience and cases as well.

I can reach out to Dr M about this, however thought surgeons had to be invited to post on here?

maybe @Melvin- Moderatorcan shed some light on this.  

On 6/18/2023 at 6:41 PM, Speoj said:

Here's my 5 month update!

Sorry it's been a while, work has been crazy and to be honest I haven't really been thinking about the HT as much the last few weeks / months. Which I suppose is a positive. I couldn't be happier with my progress at this point. I'd be quite content if this is the extent of the growth but there is a full 6 months+ to go before final results which is proper exciting. 

The first few images here are me with wet hair and slicked back, then dry hair held back and then finally how I usually have my hair at the minute and the donor area. 

I turned 30 last week. When I was originally planning the HT I wanted to do it early in the year because it fit in with a gap at work but also so that I gave enough time for regrowth before my birthday. And I've been glad to see some early progress. In the days after my birthday on separate occasions two girls at work thought I was turning 25. So that's a bit of a result lol. My confidence in how I look and feel hasn't been this good in years, maybe ever. I'm still with the person I mentioned in the previous post, after we gained some trust I did end up telling her all about the HT, and even showed her this post, she found it all interesting and was supportive. I haven't told any of my friends yet but I'm telling myself that if I'm asked directly about my hairline improving then I would talk about it, until then I don't feel the need. 

On my birthday weekend I went swimming in a river with a bunch of mates and for the first time I wasn't embarrassed about getting my hair wet, instead after I plunged my head under the water I then slicked my hair back. No one batted an eyelid but it felt like a significant moment in my HT journey and worth documenting.

Mate this looks ace! You’ll get a lot more density and the hairs will soften over the next 6-12 months. Do you have a Birds Eye view too with hair pushed back. Love the story of coming out of the water. Hair restoration is great especially when you are selected as a good candidate. 

On 6/14/2023 at 12:29 PM, Laurie H said:

They have a number of patients videos on YouTube if you look the clinic up.

 

Option 1 - 1500 grafts was £7k

option 2 which was over 2 days and up to 3000 grafts was £12500 

 

Images below is the proposed new hair line from Harley Steer Hair Clinic 

Hairline design is a sensible one to be fair, the price is that Raghu Reddy, or Vida? 

11 hours ago, Laurie H said:

Hi, 

Sorry to jump on this thread but seemed relevant for me.

I’ve seen a number of surgeons for consultations in the UK including Dr Reddy.

I’ve ended up booking with Dr Greg Vida from the Harley Street Hair Clinic and wondered if anyone could share their experiences.

I had three consultations there in total, one was back in 2019 when I was told I was too young at the age of 26. 
 

I’ve then had another two in the last 6 months. The last one being April of this year when I made the decision to go ahead and book. 
 

I understand this clinic has been around a long time but I can’t help but find it a little confusing why I cannot find any feedback of the clinic or Dr Vida on this forum. 
 

I also found my consultation with Dr Reddy confusing as the initial conversation was around filling in the frontal temple recession up to 1800 grafts.
 

However my girlfriend attended the consultation and mentioned lowering my hairline slightly this then lead to Dr Reddy discussing a 2 day surgery where he would also fill in some of the gaps in my crown region.

when receiving my consultation I was given two options for either a 1 day or two day procedure which really confused me. The reason being is that every other consultation I’ve been to has refused to go into my crown region due to the amount of native hair and advising it could damaging the existing hairs. 
 

although I’m booked in at the HS Hair Clinic in September I’m still feeling very confused as to weather or not I’ve made the right decision and would be grateful for any advice/experiences anyone can share. 

 

Check out Dr. Manish Mittal and Ed Ball

21 hours ago, ScottishGuy21 said:

His instagram / stories tend to have decent updates .

I agree he’s still a risk purely because he’s so new. The more independent reviews that come in the better. 

I think any surgery poses risks. In the current climate it’s not just results but the amount of care and support you get, and god forbid something go wrong can your doc manage the complications. 

On 6/8/2023 at 9:44 PM, RTC said:

Read my comments above bro. Reddy is a decent surgeon. Mittal I just don't know. Personally I wouldn't go to him. Farjo is ok too.

You would be doing yourself a disservice by not going to Dr Ball for a consultation.

One thing alot of the UK surgeons have in common is that they are very conservative in their hairlines.

RTC, agreed Dr Ball is a great doc, extremely conservative by nature. Unsure why you’re anti-mittal. A lot of people have had a great experience with him and one of the few dOC that actually cares, and is doing things properly, and only focusing on one patient a day. 

Just now, Nelly said:

All the names you’ve mentioned are great options, however havnt seen much From D’Souza. Raghu Reddy is not a member of the ABHRS, but I don’t think it adds much. Just an extra qualification. Reddy does produce great outcomes as does Mittal. Farjo is a tried a tested name that also do great work. I think it’s an intimate procedure and one where your surgeon will be in close contact with you after the fact. So you should be able to get on personally too. That was my take on it. And a surgeon that can produce good work even with smaller number of grafts. 
 

consultation is the most important things, and the best doctors will charge you for their time. 
 

if you have any q’s more than happy to help answer. 
 

post a few pics too.

 

good luck

Oh and look at the IAHRS. There is a great list of excellent doctors on that list, and it’s apparently a vetted list too

23 hours ago, burnerboy808 said:

Hi all,

Have been doing some research in trying to find a good surgeon in London for a hair transplant. Completely understand I can go out of the UK and get a 'better' job done at probably a fraction of the price but I do not wish to travel.

I will add I am a norwood 3 at the moment with a slight crown balding

Upon research I have discovered a few surgeons that seem to always appear;

Manish Mittal, Raghu Reddy, Farjo and Dr D'Souza 

From what I understand Reddy is the most expensive but produces superb results

Manish Mittal looked good and was my first option before I started researching/looking deeper.

However a  lot of the reviews I see on forums are from people with 1 post/new accounts etc. Seemed a little fishy, plus I believe a lot of his before/after pictures are in bright light/dimmed light

Furthermore he doesnt seem to be accredited by the ABHRS which I found very strange?

I have heard good results from thedsouzaclinic but it seems they have no before/after pictures on the website which I found  strange too? How can I rate a surgeon if i dont see their work

Farjo I have heard is hit or miss from my research

Does anyone have any experience with the above people and can recommend them? Is ABHRS Accreditation as important as it sounds?

All the names you’ve mentioned are great options, however havnt seen much From D’Souza. Raghu Reddy is not a member of the ABHRS, but I don’t think it adds much. Just an extra qualification. Reddy does produce great outcomes as does Mittal. Farjo is a tried a tested name that also do great work. I think it’s an intimate procedure and one where your surgeon will be in close contact with you after the fact. So you should be able to get on personally too. That was my take on it. And a surgeon that can produce good work even with smaller number of grafts. 
 

consultation is the most important things, and the best doctors will charge you for their time. 
 

if you have any q’s more than happy to help answer. 
 

post a few pics too.

good luck