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Bill, With all do respect, I am not the one who owes anyone an explanation! I am not the one who stated that the positives of propecia far outweigh the negatives! I suggest that you demand an explanation along with 'supporting' evidence from the 'one' who 'stated' that the positives far outweigh the negatives! Bill, I must be frank! I am suprised at your less that impartial attitude! As a professional, i have always valued this site as a forum of impartiality! With all do respect, 'I' am not the one who posted an allegation without 'any' supporting evidence! I suggest that you direct your 'bark' at the one who posted the allegation about propecia without any supporting evidence! With respect to your allegation that I flaunted my profession, i suggest that you re-visit the U.S. Constitution. If I remotely believe that someone is attempting to mislead either myself or the general public, i have an ethical obligation to call them to task! The next time that you take issue with me expressing my, or any other members, right to proof of any allegation set forth by any other member of this site, such as Mahhong, I will be there to set the record straight! And to think that i suggested this site to countless other professionals in my community who suffer from MPB! I must say that i am embarrassed by your response to my post. Utilizing your logic, anyone is free to post any misleading statements without any supporting evidence on this site, and, if someone posts a challenging response, god forbid they do so withoutnot posting countervailing evidence! The result would be equivalent to your posting attacking me! Your logic defies all concepts of legality and impartiality. However, i am willing to bet my net worth that you will attempt to portray 'me' as the bad guy for demanding supporting evidence for mahhong's unsupported allegations! I cannot wait to share your response!

Mahhong, My childhood friend has been a urologist for more than 15 years. The day that i asked him to write me a prescription for propecia, i also asked him if there was any physiological evidence to support the OCEAN of reported negative side effects as reported on countless web sites. His response was....ABSOLUTELY! He also advised me that it is commonplace for most physicians to downplay reports of negative side effects as being merely PSYCHOSOMATIC! He also told me that he has always believed that such misleading medical advice constitutes a complete and inexcusable derogation from the hypocratic oath by which all physicians are bound! With respect to your allegation that the positive cases far outweigh the negative, I, and my Urologist friend, would like you to disclose the identity of the scientific study upon which you base your allegation. I come from a family of trial attorneys and as a trial attorney with 'vast' trial experience i have examined, cross-examined and subsequently discredited countless medical and lay 'experts' who have generated reports that were not worth the paper that they were written on! I understand that you would like to have a discussion on this issue but please do not start the discussion by 'stating' that the positive cases far outweigh the negative. this is simply 'not' true!

Mahhong, Instead of "trying to play devils advocate on the people who report negative side effects of propecia," I suggest that you ignore the bull**** 'nonscientific' statistics that may or may not have been reported and focus on the 'physiologically' and 'scientifically' confirmed results that have been reported on the use of propecia. The results are staggering! The side effects are 'clearly' 'not' psychosomatic as you sugges!

Bouningsoul10, You are not alone. The more research you do, the more you will find that there are countless men such as you and I that simply cannot tolerate the side effects of propecia. I was also told that the side effects might eventually subside with continued use but it never happened. Prezident

Default609, I stopped taking propecia because it caused extreme lethargy, not to mention the problems with erectyle dysfunction. Also, I am a trial attorney and simply could not perform with the same spontanaety or energy level that i could while not using propecia. Prezident

With respect to the issue of side effects from meds, i always feel compelled to point out the obvious. Remember, every human being that ever walked the face of the planet possessed a different set of fingerprints. Likewise , every human being that currently walks the face of the planet possesses a different set of fingerprints. Accordingly, every human being will have a different physiological response to any given medication that they subject their body to. I happen to be a human being that is very sensitive to the side effects of any medication that i put into my body. I, like millions of men, cannot tolerate the side effects of propecia. Accordingly, i believe that it is very important that all forum members keep this in mind when posting responsive comments! Unlike some members, i have had to endure and experience the loss of not only native, but also, transplanted hair because my body cannot tolerate the side effects of propecia. I know that i am simply reitterating the obvious but i ask that our newer members keep this in mind prezident

Janna, While I am on the mend I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank you, Matt, Dr. Ron and the entire staff of techs for my truly wonderful HT experience with SMG this past Monday October 26. There was never a moment that I did not feel completely relaxed and confident with the level of competency and professionalism of everyone involved. I also find it extremely noteworthy, especially for those considering a HT, that I was particularly impressed by everyones, including Dr. Ron's, patience! Patience is truly a virtue and in my opinion that patience made my experience with SMG a grandslam! A HT is, without saying, extremely tedious work but you guys made it look easy because it was obvious that everyone genuinly cared not only about the patient in the chair, but also the patients results. As a fellow professional, I must say that I have a world of respect for Dr. Ron because of the truly wonderful, appreciative and 'down to earth' relationship that he has with every member of his staff. To me, the relationship that a doctor has with his staff has an unquestionable impact and impression on every patient. Dr. Ron = A world class 'down to earth' surgeon! it doesn't get any better than that folks! Prezident

Armani-Patient, Did Dr. Armani ever give you an explanation for why you had such a poor result?

It is my understanding that the procedure will focus on the diffused thinning in zones 1 and 2. Of course the doc will decide definitively when he sees me in person on monday morning.

Thanks Bill, In my opinion (all BS aside), this forum, under your direction, has provided an unmeasurable level of support and encouragement, not only for me, but for all men who are adversely affected by male pattern baldness. Prezident

Hello all, After extensive research and soul rearching, I am scheduled for HT with Dr. Ron this coming monday October 26, 2009.The Funny thing is that I am not even nervous because I know that I made the right decision for my second HT. Prezident

Balboa, Please share with us any feedback you have gotten from Dr. Armani.

As I expected, the silence is deafening!

Fingers Crossed, What side effects did you experience with propecia?

Severn, Correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding that the 'high' majority of hair transplants that were performed in the 90s and early 2000s were FUSS procedures and not FUE. My 3500 FUE procedure performed in 2007 was ultimately a complete failure even though the transplanted hair initially grew out beautifully. The only other HT failure cases that I have come across were from patients that underwent the FUE procedure. In another post, Bill posted an article authored by Dr. Feller that is by far the most informative that I have read about the FUE procedure and the 'three forces' that a follicle must endure during the extraction process. I am lucky that I have a large donor site because my next procedure will DEFINITELY be FUSS! However, I wholeheartedly agree that the community needs some input from one of the HT Docs on this issue. Everytime I turn around I read about another HT DOC inventing a 'new' and 'innovative' FUE extraction device. Utilizing simple logic, what does that tell you about the 'true' nature of the FUE procedure. Hasson and Wong, who consistently have phenomenal results, do not even perform FUE. Go figure! Prezident

Spex, The native hair in zone 1 on the left side was so minimal before the HT that I would pretty much classify it as bald. My procedure was limited to restoring zone 1. It is unquestionable that I have lost a significant amount of transplanted hair, especially on the left side. Several theories have been advanced by Bill and Thana in another thread enhtitled 'new hair transplant device by Dr. Harris revolutionizes FUE procedure'. You will find it under the forum entitled 'hair transplant experiences and surgeon reviews'. One of the articles posted by Bill that was authored by Dr. Feller was by far the most informative that I have encountered on the FUE procedure. Even though my transplanted hair initially grew in beautifully, i firmly believe that over time the follicles eventually died off in the recipient site because, in the long run, they were unable to recover from the three traumatic forces that they were subjected to during the extraction process. These forces are outlined in great detail in Dr. Fellers publication. At this point, it is the only plausible explanation for what I am experiencing. Prezident

Dr. Charles, I underwent a 3500 FUE procedure in September 2007. Over the following year all of the transplanted hair grew in beautifully. However, around November 2008, the transplanted hair began to fall out and continues to fall out to date. Consulted with both an internest and a dermatologist. Blood work yielded perfect results and i am not taking any meds that would cause hair loss. The docs are mystified as well. I have obviously far surpassed 12-15 months post-op. Your personal thoughts are greatly appreciated. Prezident Prezident

ramj4013, How wide is your donor scar at the midpoint? I hate to speak for Severn but I think that this was probably the info he was interested in. Prezident

Johnc168, You are not alone! I am also in the middle of the same experience. When did your transplanted hair begin to fall out? It is quite possible that your hair, unlike mine, is going through a telogen phase and will re-emerge after a 3 month dormant stage. Prezident

Female HT, Im curious. If you are not dissatisfied with Dr. Feller's results, why did you feel the need to post comments that question both the integrity and competency of his staff? My procedure lasted 14 hours and nobody said a word. To be quite honest, I would have gladly welcomed a comment about the score of the superbowl. To me,It would have at least confirmed that the staff were not robots and, indeed, human! Dr. Feller is a recommended HT surgeon on this site. Unless you have a complaint about your 'results', I believe it is disingenuous to post comments that can, in many instances, confuse and mislead others! Prezident

Bill, I did reply by thanking you and Thana for your very helpful and collective insights. I have forwarded my pics to Dr. Feller and hope to consult with him soon. Dr. Feller did not perform my 3500 FUE procedure. My procedure was performed by another surgeon whose clinic has advised me that they do not know why my transplanted hair is falling out. Hopefully Dr. Feller will find the answer to this mystery. I do find it interesting that the doubles have held better than the singles. This may simply be coincidence or it may be that the doubles are holding better because they contain more DHT resistent DNA! I obviously have not performed an exhaustive count to confirm this. Prezident

Severn, I agree with your assessment. It simply does not make any sense. Because of the lack of feed back that i have gotten from my surgeon and others on this issue, I am only left to assume that the hair transplant industry, as a whole, does not want to admit that hair transplant surgery is a complete and utter failure in a certain percent of the population. If you think about it, how many people would second guess an expensive and painfull hair transplant if they knew that there was a certain percentage of the population that experienced a complete and utter failure of a HT procedure. I have learned, from my own research, that there are countless others like me who are left with absolutely no explanation as to why their HT was a total failure even though there was absolutely no medical explanation for it. Think about it! If I told you i wanted to charge you 30 or 40 thousand dollars for a HT procedure and then told you that it simply does not work on a certain percentage of the population, How many people do you think would decide to roll the dice with that kind of money? In my estimation, not many! Go figure! Prezident

Severn, The transplanted hair has been falling out since November 2008 and is not regrowing. The telogen phase only lasts 3 months. I initially thought the same thing but too much time has passed for the hair to still be in the telogen phase. I consulted with both a dermatologist and an internest and both do not have an explanation for the loss. I do not have any medical conditions, i do not take 'any' medication and to my knowledge the hair was not harvested from outside of the safe zone. Prezident

Thanks Bill and Thana, your collective insights were very helpfull. For your info I underwent a 3500 FUE procedure in September 2007. Over the following year the transplanted follicles grew out beautifully and my hairline was completely restored. However, around 14 months post-op the transplanted hair began to fall out and continues to this day. The procedure was limited to zone 1. Recent bloodwork yielded perfect results. The problem is not me. It is emotionally devastating to experience the loss of my hair for a second time. What are your thoughts on what is happening in my situation. Your comments and thoughts are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! Prezident.

Thana, Please Take a look at the question that I forwarded to Bill and let me know what your thoughts are. It would be greatly appreciated. I have viewed your previous postings on this site and I greatly appreciate your very candid responses. Unfortunately, in this day and age, it is very difficult to find people who are willing to dispense with the (edited for profanity) and cut to the chase! Thanks in advance. Prezident.