Berba11

Where are you based and what is your budget? Are you prepared to travel if so?

A very undeserved reputation - most options in Turkey are terrible, with only a small number of clinics doing HT work to a higher level. Personally if you’ve had a couple of successful FUT’s and now want to finish the job a bit cheaper, I’d be looking at someone like Dr Loarwong in Thailand. In terms of a very experienced surgeon with lots of independent reviews producing very high level work at a budget price, I’m struggling to think of a better alternative.

If you’re asking for a list of worldwide reputable surgeons then there’s a big recommended” list at the top of the forum to browse through. If you want more specific advice then some photos showing your current hair loss as well as info such as age, location, family history of hair loss and budget will help us to start narrowing down the options a bit more.

Your question has been answered already. The answer isn’t suddenly going to change mate! If your shampoo could “burn the grafts”, then every hair on your body that it comes into contact with it would theoretically burn, too. Unless you’re now smooth as a newborn baby all over, you’ll be ok!

Honestly… a lot of people in this thread need to calm down and massively lower their expectations. We have no idea if verteporfin will work in the way we hope it will yet, let alone to the levels required to start talking about “cures” and “limitless donor areas”. We have a tiny, tiny amount of encouraging evidence that warrants further investigation in both human and non-human animal cases. And that’s about where we are - no further. It’s going to take a long time before we know with any certainty if there are testable and demonstrable benefits from using vert in HT patients, and an even longer way away from widespread adoption among surgeons.

Amazing how quickly the hairline suddenly looks spot on. I know there's more extractions and refinements to come in the next session, but just getting the hairline position to a more suitable place and with a more natural widows peak shape has made a dramatic different to the balance of everything.

Very interested to see how this turns out for you. Should be a very dense result all goes well!

You have a nice and natural widows peak. Most of us on here who have had HT's would trade places with you in a heartbeat! You've nothing to worry about, your hairline looks killer!

A return flight to Bangkok is probably going to be around £600-800 depending on the time of year, and you could cut your post-op stay down to no more than a week. Accommodation costs can be as expensive or as cheap as you like in Bangkok and food is super cheap, too. You should easily be able to keep things at no more than £7.5K. Your best UK options are going to be at least £3 per graft, so a 3K graft surgery will put you decently above your estimated costs for surgery in Thailand. Same deal in Europe really. The better options are going to be starting around a similar price point, from 3-4EUR per graft minimum. FUT tends to be cheaper than FUE, so you may find some savings to be had with surgeons/clinics that offer both options, and 3-3.5 grafts from a strip surgery is worthwhile (you want to get as much out of a strip as possible ideally). Unfortunately this is a gamble we all take when going for elective surgeries. The best we can do is mitigate risk as much as possible by carefully selecting surgeons. Dr Laorwong is a very good and experienced surgeon indeed, so you'd be mitigating the risks of a poor outcome by choosing him. But all top doctors have poorer cases within their portfolio nevertheless.

Donor area will hopefully improve over time, but the small concentrated area that they took grafts from is pretty poor in my opinion. They should be extracting more homogenously across the entire donor, using the sides as well. It's a bit odd that they didn't address your midscalp as well, unless this has been planned as a two-step surgery? Who was the clinic?

Played after 3 weeks on both occasions with no issues at all (both FUE surgeries). You'll be fine.

Well done! I hope everything goes well for you. When you feel up to it, it would definitely be great to see your journey documented on the forum. I think you'd be one of the first Dr Ted Miln cases on the forum, and certainly the first female case.

This has been standard practice for years at Eugenix. Their surgeries do seem to take longer in general (I speak from personally experience as well), and to their credit their techs will slow right down or stop implantation if a patient is oozing a bit too much. One of the advantages of doing slits first is that you aren't committed to having all your grafts implanted in the same day if there are issues like excess oozing etc, as slits can remain open for up to 72 hours.

100%, for the simple reason that 99.9% of prospective HT patients know nothing substantial about what good hair restoration requires and looks like, and there's no independent body that sets a clear standard for what passes as acceptable work and holds surgeons accountable to that standard.

It won't harm the grafts, no. But At 14 days your scalp is still healing. Personally I'd err on the side of caution and not put unnecessary product onto your scalp.

Sure

I'm talking about that entire 2cm strip of hairline. There's two surgical approaches to fixing a hairline: 1. Implant more grafts in front of the problem grafts in order to hide previous bad work. 2. Punch out all of the bad grafts, raising the hairline over the course of two or three session, before rebuilding the hairline in a more natural way. I think in your case you need the second option, because trying to camouflage the current hairline will be difficult as your current hairline looks too low to begin with (so putting more grafts in front of it will be a problem), and virtually all of the grafts they've used are angled poorly meaning they won't blend as well with newly implanted 'good' grafts. Furthermore, trying to camouflage the hairline will require taking more grafts from the donor, whereas punching out the hairline means you can reuse those grafts further back, and then use a much smaller number of soft single grafts to rebuild the new hairline. Here's a case from start to finish to give you an idea: And here's another case from this week:

Yea so... At your own risk. Personally I'd not want to play the lottery with my head, especially if this first surgery doesn't turn out the way you hoped it would.

I agree with this. The hairline is extremely harsh - all thick multigraft hairs and it looks to be poorly angled as well. I would want to fix this before doing anything else.

They have this very same picture propped up on a throne inside the Taj Mahal.

And which clinic was this?

And even then, only if we're looking at zoomed in pictures and trying to find any evidence of extraction! @track_rat- everything here looks clean as a whistle. No evidence of surgery at all, and I say that as someone who needs to get a better hobby than looking at bloke's heads on the internet everyday!

It's hard to say if it will be enough and if you'll be happy. The only thing we can say is that you'll be 2,000 grafts better off than you are now if everything grows in, and that will yield a positive improvement from where you are. Personally you'd be taking a load off your shoulders by not hoping that this 2,000 graft surgery is the be all and end all, but rather to view it as one more step on the ladder. You may need or want another pass down the line, but this one should get you the frontal third and first portion of the midscalp looking good, leaving a lsightly thinner crown that will resemble a natural "back to front" balding pattern. Who is the surgeon?

I understand that, but that's not the point I was making nor the question I was asking. Why would you go to that particular city for a HT? Which highly regarded surgeon with a body of work showcasing excellent results with afro hair are you expecting to find in Istanbul? To my knowledge, there simply aren't any. So you'd be putting yourself at risk for reasons I don't understand.

5 months is still early and you could be a late grower. Obviously I’m hoping you see improvements soon. The design looks spot on though I have to say. Why on earth would you go to Istanbul? If this HT turns out poorly then the last thing you want to do is head of to Istanbul. You need a surgeon with a lot of experience with your hair type.