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Hi all, wanted to provide you with an update. You have been so supportive and encouraging, so thank you very much for that. My procedure at Eugenix was clearly a very poor result. I don’t think there’s any other way to view it. I will never get the time I lost back, but here’s to hoping I continue to make progress and am at a point where I’m content soon. Life stopped post surgery. I lived in a hat and was in a very bad place with low self esteem and an enormity of regret. After many tens of thousands of dollars and numerous visits to experts around the globe, I found a dynamic duo (Konior and Mwamba) that has yielded some success. We have plans to continue in the coming year. Excuse some of the extra cropped photos. I value my anonymity very much but am sharing in hopes this helps somebody else. Step 1: Konior | ~450 beard graft removal and redistribution Before Konior surgery. Day of Konior surgery. Focus was to remote the helmet head / birds nest of beard hair to yield a more natural blend, even if I looked more bald in the process. Goal was to look more natural and less people staring at me. Step 2: Mwamba | 800 scalp grafts into outer ring, 500 beard grafts combination of filling in beard gaps and also lower horseshoe of head, 500 chest grafts into donor Mwamba had a tall order on this surgery. Objectives: - Build around the island that Eugenix implanted on to try and merge the sections. You can see in prior photos there was nothing implanted in the outer ring and much of below, and things just looked awful. - Implant into my neck/beard to restore the empty patches left by Eugenix. - Implant into the top corners of my head where there was no work done prior. - Remove the remaining Unger hairs from my temple that were not pulled in India. There were so many. - Remove some hairs at the center of my hairline to lift it, as it was made to dip way too low. - Do all of this with a no shave technique. The red rings here would be his focus for the second session we had about a year later. About 8 months later: Step 3: Mwamba second session | 300 scalp grafts into various areas, some beard grafts into empty patches, some chest grafts into donor Objectives: - Continue to rebuild back of head with empty areas. Mostly refilling the red rings shown above. - Remove additional hairs from center of hairline to raise it. The prior session was less aggressive as a test to see how it would heal. - More touch ups on gaps in beard I didn’t take as many photos here. I was comfortable with Mwamba, and it was a relatively minor session with only a few hundred grafts moving. After approximately one year, and current state: The next session is with Konior coming up in a few months. We will be using scalp donor that I’ve been preciously saving to start giving me more volume on the top of my head. He has proposed a few sessions with a few hundred grafts a pop. It may seem nominal, but a few hundred in his hands can make a difference. I will also continue to see Mwamba to make use of body hair and targeting empty areas in the donor. Please let me know your thoughts.

Hey my friends, I will carve out some time this week to get you an update. Thank you for checking on me.

Thank you, Dr. Ozturk. I do unfortunately wear a hat on a daily basis, and have made some adjustments in my life (like finding a remote job) to live within my comfort zone after the surgery at Eugenix. I’m still going to the gym and find a lot of therapy in lifting weights. Appreciate your kind words and encouragement. I will hope to share good news here some day. Will provide a thorough update soon mate. I was treading lightly and not posting recently as I was still pleading with Eugenix to try to make things right. I was finally able to get a few minutes with the clinic last month but Sethi suggested I look elsewhere for care. Wishing you all the best man. I will update you all eventually. I had a stellar experience with Dr. Konior. He is a brilliant man and did as good of a job as he could given the canvas I had. He described my crown as a birds nest and made every effort to get me as close to normalcy as he could in one session. This required expertly selecting grafts that were at certain offensive angles and then placing them in a way that would add visual strength to the back of my head. He also had my instruction that I had to be back in the office (my prior job) in 3-4 days, so to try make this look as clean and without evidence of significant trauma as he could. It was a tall order, but he understood what I’d been through and did his best. Appreciate that brother. I have some travel coming up to see more specialists and I have not given up. I can’t afford to give up, and I want to live a normal life. I know it can be done; but I need to take the absolute correct steps. I’m not so concerned about my hairline or midscalp or weakened chin/mandible, many Drs can fix this. It’s the crown that’s going to be difficult. Removing all 1500 beard grafts from a crown is probably not possible, but I recall a time approximately 3-4 months after this surgery where the early growth (which is a fraction of all that was implanted) actually harmonized slightly with my existing vellus hair. It was only after all the beard hairs matured and grew in the crown did it become unsightly, overpowering, and unmanageable. The goal would be to find a surgeon that will be able to balance the area out to achieve a more natural look. Unfortunately, it’s costing me time. I wasted my prime. Skin recovery was fine. No ingrown hairs really. No acne. No lasting redness on face or neck. But my chin/mandible was over harvested. I’m sure there’s photos in this thread. I didn’t keep seeing Konior. We are on great terms and I had one successful session that I owe him a great deal of thanks for. I have some more consults with other Drs coming up. If I determine Konior is the one to keep seeing, I will reach out to him. - - - Thanks all for caring and being supportive. I will detail more soon.

You’re killing it dude. Nicely done

Sorry for the repeat posts in your thread, but I’m just doing some reading and research. Coming from a patient who’s had several failures and very critical/observant at this stage in life of HT’s, you have nothing to worry about with yours. It’s quite a remarkable result tbh. Truthfully, you’re doing yourself a disservice by keeping it so short on top and not letting it flow. Trust me when I say your illusion of density will increase dramatically with some length. Your donor is impeccable and nobody, event HT surgeons, would suspect you had 3k (let alone 500) grafts taken from your donor. Also reading your thread from start to finish reminded me what a whirlwind of emotions are for patients, and how surgeons can predict when we are being unreasonably worried or nervous (probably like clockwork). If I were a successful surgeon doing volume, I’d probably be like smh here they go (when the frantic emails and questions start flooding their inboxes a few days or months after surgery. Anyways, so happy to see a great result. Grow it out on top please

You’re right about that, I was so impressed with how his donor looked post op. Reminiscent of a Konior donor. His looks uncannily clean as well.

Mwamba did you right bro. This is freaking fantastic. I also chuckled a little at your anxieties about that little spot that people were suggesting a few grafts. Even at that length you were looking excellent, and realize that buzzing your hair down is like a reset that takes several months for density to reappear. You look very natural, matching density all over your head, and a donor that looks untouched. Congrats man

Hey brother, thank you for checking on me. I did have my meeting with Konior. He proposed a small session to fill in the outer rim of where Eugenix implanted. This would include corners and the lower horseshoe where no grafts were placed. As you’ve seen from photos, Eugenix implanted densely on an island with weak hairs surrounding, so it was really a recipe for disaster. I’ve not been well emotionally, so apologies on the delay. This ordeal has cost me the most valuable commodity in life - time. And it’s been unbelievably depressing to try to come out from. Nothing will humble you like a life altering mistake like this. Anyways, I’ll update you guys when I can. Further along the line the approach would be to begin removing the beard hairs from the center of my crown, once the outer rim is solidified with a natural look to render a natural MPB as opposed to the brillo pad I have up there now. I’m gunshy to do anything right now, so I’m still traveling and doing consults. Hope you’re all well.

Konior implanted into the upper fringe of my donor area. Basically just above my donor, the rationale being that this hair is cut short, and at the very least, would serve to aesthetically make it look like my donor doesn’t dip as much. It was only a few hundred grafts, so nothing material. What is material, though, is how he reduced the b volume of the birds nest that was on my head.

Hey Gatsby. I’ve considered this, and agree that this would certainly fix the beard texture issue in the crown. It would help the hair to lay flat without significant firm holding product, but a few key issues would remain. The outer ring and lower crown would still be empty where Eugenix didn’t implant into. So the implanted region of the crown would still look like it’s on an island by itself. Additionally, the beard hairs would still not follow the directionality needed for a double cowlick. There’s so much angulation needed for a double whirl, and converging points etc. Beard hairs can’t do this, at least not without being blended with scalp hairs. Anyways, you make a great suggestion. Other surgeons have suggested the same as a temporary measure. I have some holiday work events coming up soon that I cannot hide from in a ball cap. So I may try this for the holiday season with a lot of concealer and just pray for the best.

Hey man, thanks for checking on me. No material updates. Just one day at a time right now. I’m scheduled to meet with Konior for a discussion/consult/advice in a couple weeks. I’m hoping to get in front of more experts for advice in the coming months as well. Wish me luck. I was very encouraged by what Feriduni did with a botched hairline. Thank you and Berba for sharing that case. I’m confident that any of my hairline concerns can be fixed. Same with my beard/mandible. Not too concerned about those. My issue right now isn’t just removing beard hairs from the crown, it’s figuring out how to construct a natural male crown. There are 250-300 some odd scalp hairs that are implanted directly in the center of my crown where the whorls initiate their direction. Removing beard hairs would leave the surrounding region weak, and the central area unnaturally strong. Some expert surgeon is going to need to find a way to construct an inverse of this (strengthening the weak outer ring of the crown that Eugenix didn’t implant into, removing beard hairs and reinforcing with scalp hairs, and removing or purposefully weakening the dead center of the crown to more closely resemble a naturally thinning male in his mid 30’s). What you see on my head right now is the result of cursory planning and what I’m coming to believe was an unethical procedure as each day passes. It looks terrible, and I wish I could go back to my preop state everyday. I’ll report back after some consults and after I learn what’s possible / realistic. Doing my best to stay optimistic here. Just want to get back to my old life, regain confidence, dating, going out in public without a hat regularly, etc. Here’s a quick refresher of my preop pic in India: And what I was left with (these are pre Konior extraction of the few hundred grafts). This is a terrible result.

This is incredible! Wow. Thank you for sharing with me. That looked like such a difficult case, and he raised it considerably. Just incredible.

Zarev is intriguing. His results are stellar, but from what I remember seeing, they were on virgin scalps? I’m clearly a very complicated situation at this stage and need a repair expert(s) as I’ve gotten myself into trouble. Appreciate the constructive thoughts though guys. Thank you for wanting to help.

Got a follow up with him in person in early November to plan in detail. I’ll let you know how it goes. Agree he is a good man and will tell me how it is, no bs.