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2 minutes ago, EnhancedScalp said:

Looks good pending you don't lose more hair.  Reason I say this, smp done on density fills must be darker in shade to look decent. Only downside is if you start losing hair that darker shade will appear super unnatural and if you ever decide to shave and go full smp, you'll have a mess on your hands from the dark pigment used.

But it doesn't look like you'll be having any issues with hair fall at the moment so all should be well.  

I tend to stay away from this. Risky business.

My hair loss has been stabilized, but if I do happen to lose more then I’ll get another transplant. 
 

Also a few things wrong with what you said. First off being that the ink for the SMP isn’t darker then my normal hair. I have really dark hair and the ink matches. Second, SMP ink fades, so the color is going to lighten anyway over time. Third, whereas I don’t plan to ever shave my head, the density SMP was done the same as normal head shaved SMP (just lots of little dots). If I did shave my head, I’d just need to go in for 1-2 sessions to blend the scalp/SMP area into the areas below where there is no hair loss (plus I’d need to get SMP on my scar.)

I wouldn’t say it’s risky business at all if you go to a professional who knows what they’re doing. Like anything else, if you go to someone unqualified then yes it will be a mess, but if you go to people who know what they’re doing, you’ll get great results. 

My scar is pretty pencil thin, and anything below a 4 you can kind of see it. 

Just now, Lightmare said:

Nice.  Did you notice any shock loss or increased shedding since you got it done?

No, and I’ve never heard of that happening to anyone. I’m also completely covered in tattoos and none of them have caused body hair loss.
 

SMP is placed at a very shallow depth, much higher than where the follicle is. it shouldn’t cause shedding or shock loss. 

1 minute ago, Lightmare said:

Wonderful result.  Was the permanent or temporary SMP?  When is your next top op?

Permanent. I likely won’t need a touchup for 5-7 years. 

6 minutes ago, Curious25 said:

Going off your pics, your donor is going to allow you to be as greedy as you like for many years to come 😉
 

I’m going to reach out to your SMP artist this week, one of my only doubts is what it would like shaven down, if I go for long haired density look just now - because I will be getting a HT next year at some point and will be requiring to shave down. 

My donor looks great, but I also have retrograde alopecia so that limits my safe zone a bit. Mostly just being conservative for now. 
 

I asked about how it would look shaved down if I got a density treatment, and he basically said it would look ok but it would need a session or two to blend it in with the surrounding non-balding areas. 

12 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Who are you considering? Also who was your smp artist?

I’m not giving it any serious consideration, mostly Because if I do then I’ll tell myself into doing it. I always gravitate towards H&W though whenever I toy with it.  My hair looks great and it’s getting long and I don’t want to start all over again with all that. It’s just the hair greed is all. I also want to wait a few years and make sure my hair loss truly is stabilized. I don’t want to lower my hairline and fix my temple points, then in 5-10 years my mid scalp is super thin and I’m out of grafts. 
 

my SMP artist was Mike at Hairline Ink. 

3 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Btw your smp results came out amazing, just had to state that fact.

Thanks, I am super happy about it. Between the HT and the SMP I have the complete illusion of density when my hair is typed correctly. Currently fighting the hair greed demon that wants me to get my hairline lowered and my temple points fixed, but I think I’m not going to worry about that for now. 

Just now, hairman22 said:

tbh im not really seeing a huge difference between ahead ink & smp ireland

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CQ8I9VZqj2m/  thats a flawless result

this looks very good too https://www.instagram.com/p/CUKYa7VqxHP/

 

i do think the ahead ink https://www.instagram.com/p/CGkPWpJp28p/ density is better but its very very dark ink

On the first link the hairline looks ridiculously unnatural, and additionally the picture is so low quality that you can’t zoom in to see how it truly looks. Not even close to flawless. 

the second one looks better but two issues there. First off you never ever want SMP all the way to a hairline on a density treatment. It will end up looking like the person buzzed their hair all around their hairline. The second issue is again the pictures are so low quality (and also dark) that you can’t see it well. 

this is one of the worst SMP results I’ve ever seen: https://www.instagram.com/p/CVFV-xOKbVH/?utm_medium=copy_link

This is a truly awful hairline and the temple points look horrific: https://www.instagram.com/p/CRkDdm-qKyn/?utm_medium=copy_link

I’m just trying to help you out man, but it’s your head and your life so I’ll leave you to it. 

2 hours ago, hairman22 said:

i saw one in person looked very good i thought

It could be you didn’t know what to look for, or it could be an outlier and the only good one they’ve done 

1 hour ago, hairman22 said:

smp ireland

https://www.instagram.com/p/CS-LEa4Kgl7/

 

 

https://www.instagram.com/smp_ireland/?fbclid=IwAR0Wn0VnyStrAIY-ca-UTpKVOF39WPA0q1NUkL89D2YF_Oq3w6OhImNbbkA

I’m going to be honest man, their work looks pretty bad. Both the shaved head look and their density stuff looks pretty awful. Most of the “after” pictures have very unnatural looking hairlines, and the pictures are low quality which I suspect is intentional so you can’t see how bad it looks up close. 
 

compare it to the place I went and you will see there’s a huge difference: https://instagram.com/hairline_ink?utm_medium=copy_link

What place and artist are you going to?

Finasteride has CONSIDERABLY reduced my body hair, but my beard seems pretty much the same. I think like everything else, it’s going to be different for each person. 

7 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Fantastic video, can you post pictures as well? 

This. Videos are nice but I know I prefer just scrolling through pictures quickly instead of watching a video. 

Impressive. Every word in that sentence was wrong.

Everyone is different, but I’ve been on finasteride for a few years and I’ve lost a LOT of body hair. My beard hair is just as thick as ever though. 

2 hours ago, london1982 said:

Thanks for replying I am going to speak with a few more people SMP pro's and HT surgeon. I am looking to get the HT done within the next 12 months, followed by SMP for density.

 

Would be good to hear from others who have gone down this rout, SMP after transplant. Interested to know about timescales etc.

If you check my thread out, you’ll see I got an HT followed by SMP 10 months post op. The HT got me about 80-90% of the density I wanted and the SMP put me over the finish line. Let me know if you have any questions. 

21 hours ago, Gokuhairline said:

where do we get it ?

This. I thought it was only for people they did surgery on? Or are they selling it to anyone now?

18 hours ago, MachoVato said:

Uh huh, sure! haha!

I'm thinking about SMP, too. I just wish it was a longer term solution. What's the expected time before it needs to be refreshed?

SMP generally needs a touchup every 5-7 years. A touch up is just that though, it’s not entirely doing it all over, so the cost will be much lower. For example where I went it was $2500 to get SMP done over 2 sessions, and touchups cost $700. 

4 minutes ago, CreamyLogan said:

To just shave and not reverse it you mean?

Yes. You can shave your head without reversing your HT

5 hours ago, CreamyLogan said:

I’ve had a hair transplant (hairline and temples). My issue is I am thinning behind the hair transplant so I want to remove the transplanted hair and embrace the shaved down look.

You can do that without reversing your HT

I’m confused as to why you’d reverse the surgery. Why not just shave your head? Presumably you’d do that anyway if you hadn’t had the HT and were going bald?

Most people have 0 growth at 3.5 months, so you’re already well ahead of the curve. 

54 minutes ago, MachoVato said:

You certainly sound much happier! And that's what it's all about right?

But yeah, I kinda see the "retro" vide with long hair. You're stuck in the David Spade look right now, but I'm sure it'll grow out and get that look you're going for. Maybe look at some leave-in conditioner to help with the texture? I use this stuff and love it. Smells kinda earthy too.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B3AY85S

Happy growing!

Damn you called me David Spade I’m crying now. 😂 I’ve grown out my hair before and there’s definitely a long ugly duckling phase where it just looks terrible. It’s hard to stick with it but I’m going to because it will be worth it, I hope…..
 

I’ve tried almost every product (shampoo, conditioner, leave in, hair styling product, etc.) imaginable for taming course wiry hair, and nothing works. The only thing I’ve seen that may help is a Brazilian blowout or a keratin treatment, but they are expensive and for some people they have adverse results, so I don’t want to risk it. I’ll give the one you posted a try though, can’t hurt. 

1 hour ago, hairman22 said:

Brillant result could have asked for more

I’m going to assume you meant “couldn’t” 😂

8 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Looks fantastic you got the 90s part hairstyle, need good density to pull that off. 

I’m not sure if that 90s comment makes me feel good or old. 😂

It’s still growing out, I probably have another 6 months to a year before it reaches the length I want. My hair grows relatively fast. I shaved my entire head a year ago exactly, and haven’t cut the top since, and only trimmed the sides and back a bit until the top got longer (I didn’t want a mullet) so it’s grown decently long I’d say  

My goal is for it to look like Jared Padalecki’s hair in the show Supernatural like in the attached pics. I know mine won’t look as good because my hair is coarse and wiry, I have a five head, I don’t have native density, etc. but hoping for the best.