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Give up the crown. Don't take medications (and potentially deal with side effects). Expect to do 2-3 surgeries to cover full head. It'll be expensive, but worth it. Otherwise if money is an issue, just shave it off and rock the bald look.

2 minutes ago, 1978matt said:

I think you may have misunderstood.  He charges on session size not on a per graft basis for FUT (1500-2000, 2000-2500...and so on) and there is no way he would charge $25,000 for 1000 grafts FUT.   It is most likely calculated on time and the number of staff he would need to pay for the approximate number of grafts required. For example he may need 5 people for 1500-2000 grafts, and 8 for 3000-3500.

I see what you're saying. That is probably it. By session size.

5 hours ago, giegnosiganoe said:

I wonder why his price structure keeps changing? I was also told $12/graft a few months ago. If you only need 1500 grafts, then you'd be paying $16.67/graft at the price you were told which is pretty absurd. 2000 grafts via FUE is pretty much the most that can be done in a day anyway, and that would be $12.50/graft.

Did you consult with him in person? Curious how that went?

Well I am speaking from 100% truth and transparency from my back to back email conversations with him. From my pictures, he predicted he would be able to harvest 3,000-3,500 grafts and that there is no dollar per graft when I asked for the price. Simply that his cost is $25,000 for one session with him. 

We spoke for a good week with in-depth emails. He seemed ethical and his work seems amazing. I'm sure he is a great surgeon. However, he is a bit pricey. 

3 hours ago, 1978matt said:

That's not quite right though as i checked back and you said : Dr. Konior is offering to do 3,000-3,500 grafts (based on pictures; he'll be able to give a more precise number after doing a microscopic evaluation) for $25,000.

So that's roughly $8 a graft for an FUT of this size.

You can say $8/graft for that amount. But regardless if you do 1,500 grafts or 5,000 grafts, it does not matter. The price is still going to be $25,000. 

Edit: this is incorrect. He charges by session size for an individual. 

On 10/21/2020 at 6:48 PM, Portugal25 said:

Konior does charge 15.4USD per graft not insane it’s the ruff estimate I got over the phone and I have to say it was really difficult to get a estimate over the phone abd the lady did say that it can be even higher than 16US/graft. 

Couto does 2 patients per day I did confirm this with his clinic so there’s no way he does the whole surgery (he’s considered a God at FUE but he’s not omnipresent).

Freitas does up to 4 patients per day so obviously he has to delegate part of his surgeries to techs. The Brazilian lady that answered the phone got upset with me for asking to many questions and wanted to why I was asking so many details about the surgery. I can olny assume she is used to people only asking about available dates or was trained at a Hairmill.

Despite Freitas starting in this field at a Hairmill if both him and Couto did surgery on just 1 patient per day they would both be on my TOP 5 FUE Docs. 

I had a recent consultation with Dr. Konior (1 month ago). He doesn't do dollar per graft. His fee is simply $25,000 for one session, no matter how many grafts are harvested. 

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Can patients who've undergone hair transplantations with Dr. Bloxham describe their experiences and results? 

• Was the process professional, personal, and ethical?
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16 minutes ago, harrylloyd said:

Can you post the back of your head including your neck instead of the crown? Also, only go with Dr. Konior if you can wait. I believe his waitlist at this point is around 1.5 years. Otherwise I would recommend Dr. Nadimi as well who work at Dr. Konior's practice and seems to have been trained by him and the results she's putting out are really really phenomenal as well. And I believe she's a bit cheaper. I just had my second FUT by Dr. Konior last week to add more density overall and I hate the pain and all the agony but it truly is worth it. Best of luck to you.

7 hours ago, JohnAC71 said:

Thanks for sharing these pics. Are you still going for a FUT procedure? 

Yes, hopefully if my donor area allows it! I prefer FUT over FUE. 

Here is a recent picture of my crown/donor area with my hair grown out: 

2 hours ago, harrylloyd said:

Dr. Konior knows best but honestly I'd say you should not go down this road. You would likely need multiple FUT sessions followed by at least one or more FUE session(s). To me your donor area looks weak, it doesn't have that dense thick look to it. But again, like others have mentioned, I would trust Dr. K to do his examination and tell you what you can achieve realistically. I hate to say it brother but accept the bald look. Just one FUT surgery is pretty damn painful. Not the actual procedure but the healing process on the incision, having difficulties sleeping, waiting, etc. Now keep in mind you'll have to  do this multiple times. So is all the pain, money, and hassle worth it to achieve a look of someone that looks like they're receding after it's all said and done? You have to answer that but for me it would be a no. Good luck man.

I will let a hair transplant surgeon make an assessment of my donor area. Keep in mind that these pictures I recently uploaded were 10 days after I did a complete razor-blade shave of my head. I hope that I am a good candidate, I do not like the bald look on me. I honestly would rather have a thinning hairlook/hairstyle than be completely bald. 

More pictures of my donor area and crown:

1 minute ago, Taken4Granted said:

Dr. K is worth every dollar, period. You’ll need to do some soul-searching about FUT v. FUE, but Konior’s gonna do the best work money can buy.

Do you think I should look into FUE with my current hair loss? I didn't even consider FUE because of my aggressive hair loss.

32 minutes ago, aaron1234 said:

At the end of the day, we can only speculate about your donor quality on the forum.  The doctor would have a better idea when examining it in person with magnification.  It does look like you're a NW6/7, so you if decide to get transplants you'll have to accept that you won't ever get full coverage.  But you can still get a natural result with thin coverage in the top half of the crown.  

19 minutes ago, James C said:

I think he’ll be able to get light coverage throughout his entire crown because he’s staring with fut. would need to have a conservatively placed hairline tho

Honestly, the link I posted above in an earlier post (2,000 graft FUE) is goals for me. Gives me confidence in Dr. K's work, especially if he will have more grafts to work with in an FUT patient. 

22 minutes ago, James C said:

Good point. You’d really max out your grafts that way. I just don’t know how well scar revisions are nowadays with fue into them. I guess fue in theory sounds like a safer option god forbid your results aren’t what you expected. You wouldn’t be stuck with long hair on the sides. It all comes down to trusting the right doctor to get the job done 

Haha thanks bro. I suppose it comes down to personal preference. I wouldn't mind keeping a bit of a longer hairstyle if that means I can have better scalp coverage for the rest of my life. 

4 minutes ago, James C said:

20% more lifetime grafts available in your donor for fut versus fue. So lets say you can get 7k grafts via fut alone. You’d be maxed out at maybe 5600 with fue alone (20% less). But in exchange for the extra grafts, you get a strip scar. I’m heading towards a nw 6 and I’m debating fut or fue. I have a good beard tho. Konior said he can likely grab another 1k Atleast from my beard. So fue plus beard grafts is sounding like a good option right now. One thing i fear for us nw 6s is if we go fut, were forced to wear our hair longer on the sides. (I think longer then a number 3 honestly.) and with our advanced pattern were not likely to get much crown density. So a thin crown + long hair on the sides is concerning. Atleast with fue you can cut the hair shorter which blends better with a thin crown. Do you agree?

I would argue to go for FUT. You would get the full 7k grafts + the 1k grafts from the beard. My question is, why not do FUE to fix/lessen the scar at the end of your transplantations?

1 minute ago, James C said:

Is this for fut or fue? Konior told me fut only yields 20% more lifetime grafts. In exchange for a strip scar. Do you think an extra 1500 grafts is worth having long hair on the sides to hide the scar? I’m in the same position. He also said beard hair can make up the difference 

FUT. I am only pursuing FUT transplants due to my aggressive hair loss. What does "20% more lifetime grafts" mean exactly. Sorry, I did not understand. I am okay with longer hair styles. A grade 3 haircut is usually the minimum required to hide the scar, right?

Just now, aaron1234 said:

Dr. K is definitely worth it, no question.  He won't do you wrong.  The question is are you prepared for the very real possibility of needing/wanting another pass?

Yes, I am okay with the idea of getting 1 or 2 more FUT's in the future. But does my donor area seem good enough to do that? Have you guys seen anyone else in similar hair loss pattern as me and have gotten multiple hair transplants? 

Hello guys,

So after a week of talking, Dr. Konior is offering to do 3,000-3,500 grafts (based on pictures; he'll be able to give a more precise number after doing a microscopic evaluation) for $25,000. Is this worth it? After seeing my pictures, is there anyone against the idea of undergoing a hair transplantation?

This guy had a crazy transformation for only doing a 2,000 FUE transplantation!

Imagine doing FUT with more grafts. I am okay with getting multiple FUTs if my donor hair allows it as well.

Hey guys, is it possible to have successful hair transplants/good coverage for patients who are heading towards Norwood 6/7?

My dad had a perfect Norwood 6 horshoe hair style. Only thick on the back and sides (with partial thinning in the nape region of the neck).

My maternal grandfather had thinning hair, but didn't go completely bald. Had a high receding hair line + diffuse thinning mid-scalp and crown. 

On 9/6/2020 at 4:44 PM, giegnosiganoe said:

Sorry, I misunderstood. So the first 2 pictures in your post are from 2 years ago, and the ones you posted further below are your current pics.

 

Sorry for the confusion! But yes you are correct.

Thank you for the amazing input/advice everyone! Keep sending them in for those who come across this thread! I read them all.

I will update you guys along my hair transplant journey for those who'd like to follow this thread

1 hour ago, Taken4Granted said:

Totally understand, so as others have said, def talk to a good surgeon about the long-term strategy, where to begin, how to maintain a natural look between the first and second round etc.

About starting in the front with near-complete loss in the back, I’ve seen many posters in a similar situation, really high NWs. I’m less informed than these other guys on the particular techniques, but I’ve often noticed surgeons addressing this with so-called “density gradients“ that are meant to deliver the appearance of thick hair in some areas while blending with thinner areas to look as natural as possible. In your case, the surgeon wouldn’t just plant a thick crop with sharp boundaries and make you look stupid. You would bite the bullet on the crown (for now) and maybe do a mega-session with strip harvesting to deliver 4K+ units to the front and mid-scalp, where the density gradient thins toward the back in a way that looks like natural MPB. 
 

To reiterate, I’m speaking from ignorance here, so get better info from a doc or some of these other guys, but this is what I’m picturing:

 

Wow, thank you for taking the time to draw that out! And yeah I like that idea! I would rather have a MPB type of hair in the crown rather than complete baldness! I'll have to see what my hair transplant surgeon recommends. 

2 hours ago, transplantedphil said:

the bottom of your neck (nape area) and the region above the ears are what are partial to retrograde alopecia. I highlighted your nape region which IMO appears to be thinning. 

I am getting worried now! I don't have any thinning whatsoever on the sides or around my ears. Just that nape area. Does this mean I can't get a hair transplant?