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Day 3 is done and my procedure is now complete. Feels surreal. A lot of time, planning and energy went into this and now it is finished. 3000~ grafts in front 220~ in each temple 1700~ in the crown 200~ in mid scalp I am already thinking about a second procedure to bring the hairline down. In the long run I think I want it a bit closer.

How many beard hair grafts in total are on your scalp now?

Day 2 was today. I feel bad writing how exhausted I am, because I know it is the technicians and nurses and doctors who did all the work. The Eugenix team really is in lockstep. They are a true TEAM. They know what the other needs before they verbalize it. And Dr. Das is very kind and just an amazing person to talk to. I have about 900 grafts remaining to be harvested and implanted tomorrow, all from the beard. Then the process will be over. Also met Dr. Sethi today. He was in my OR several times and we chatted quite a bit. I then did an interview for the India Times, which will be broadcast at some point. Here are the pictures from day 2:

Yes they did. Dr Das explained to me that it’s often easier to do implantation the next day. Also - I was very tired (and jet lagged), so did request to end a bit earlier than they were planning for the first day. I also oozed quite a bit, which slowed them down. They have a great team at Eugenix and I trust them.

Day 1 is complete and 4900 of the 5000 slits are in! Approximately 900 of these slits have grafts in them. Dr. Das is keeping some extra slits to fill in areas as she sees fit. We are hoping to finish tomorrow but we may need a half day on Thursday to finish. Here is my story thus far: Arrived in Delhi at 9:00pm local time after a 15 hour flight. As promised by Eugenix, the hotel driver was waiting for me right outside of the airport exit. The driver was cordial and brought me to the Hilton where I checked in. The next morning I was picked up by the Eugenix driver at 10:15am and brought to the clinic. The steps were as follows: Hand ID to receptionist who takes a picture of it. Escorted by Eugenix employee to the picture room for three rounds of photos. First set of photos are taken with your normal hair style. Second set of photos is after the doctor draws your new hair line. Third set of photos is after your hair is buzzed. During this time a nurse arrives and places two injections into your arm. The purpose is to test how your body reacts to the anasthesia before placing it all over your head. Very smart! The nurse also provides pre-surgery antibiotics and a few other pills. I was then escorted from the picture room to the wash room, where my head was washed. I was then escorted from the wash room to the surgery room. The OR nurse uses a vibrating device to distract you from the pain of the anesthesia needles, which is surprisingly effective. Im pretty tired so that’s all I have for day 1. Here are my before photos and a before/after of day 1.

Thank you

Things like european style plug adapterx noise-cancelling headphones, maybe a shower cap to catch hairs if the fall out when you’re sleeping, etc. I don’t even know if those examples are valid but i’m just looking for items I may be forgetting and should bring.

Isn't Sethi about the same as Pitella now? (if you can even get him to agree to do it)

Lookin good.

Your hair looks amazing @mnvbrtn

They will likely turn the case down, as there is not enough incentive for them to take the case (the settlement would be too small). But good on for you for taking that step and checking. I'm really sorry you're going through this and hope that you are able to find a new surgeon that will fix your hairline. Take a look through the review forum. I like to sort by "most replies", as that often brings up the best (most successful) cases with lots of data points. Then create a short list of surgeons you found from your thread research and make consultation appointments. Ask questions of this forums top members too. Melvin is a wealth of knowledge, as is Gatsby and a few others. They always seem happy to give advice, so if you're questioning if a surgeon should be on your short list, ask! Keep your head up.

No. You're moving the goal posts now. You stated: "I doubt you have an actual/true/legitimate legal claim that would hold up in a court of law. If you signed any sort of patient documents/claims prior to surgery, it pretty much kills your case." Which is nonsense and I responded telling you that OP does have an actual, true, and legitimate legal claim and it very well could hold up in a court of law, and pre-surgery waiver documents would not indemnify the surgeon. That is a completely different argument than what you have shifted to, which is "its not worth it to pursue the case". I would have agreed with that from the beginning. You switched from "You have no case" to "its not worth it". And can score well on the LSAT. But I do agree.

Yeah it’s not uncommon. The only uncommon part is when they reach trial. Most get settlements. Here is a gentleman who won 45k for an asymmetrical hairline. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/singer-wins-45-000-after-bad-hair-day-qvknf7cp2

I’m not barred in the UK, so i’m speaking from my jurisdiction. And to be abundantly clear, I am not providing any recommendations. I am simply stating how these cases typically go: Consult > Medical records request > Filing and service of complaint > Ins Con will ask for summary judgment on the grounds of jurisdiction or relevance or any other cause they can think of > Request is denied > Discovery with potential subpoena of records if not provided earlier > Insurance company will often negotiate a settlement at this stage > If no settlement, then we move on to pre-trial motions where they will attempt to delay as long as possible > Trial. Getting to trial in malpractice cases is exceedingly rare. They are almost always settled prior. When they do go to trial, it’s because the case is veryyyyy weak and they are extremely confident they will win. And despite this, they still lose close to 40% of them. But they don’t like to go trial for the following reasons: 1) Juries are typically sympathetic to medical claims. 2) The surgeon does not want the negative publicity that a trial brings. 3) The insurance company does not want the risk matrix that accompanies a jury (at least in my state) deciding damages. I mentioned the eyelid case above, but a former colleague I spoke with this morning also mentioned a case he had with a woman who had a small cyst on her back. Non-malignant and not medically necessary, but was unsightly, she chose to have it removed. The surgeon caused a scar that was ugly enough that they filed suit. She won (settled). The scar was just above the bikini on the back, causing others to be able to see it. All that being said, I don’t recommend a lawsuit in this situation. I would push for a refund and be on with my life. There simply isn’t enough meat on this bone for it to be worth it. My responses in this thread have to do with what is possible - not what I recommend the OP do. There are people posting in this thread whom have very little grasp of the law, and I was simply informing them of the realities.

Uh, these hardly ever go to court because they are typically settled with the insurance company before trial. Of course they try to delay and motion away the case first. The cases that make it to court are the ones in which they (the surgeon side) believe they have an excellent chance at winning. And they STILL lose close to 40% of the time.

Absolutely. Which is why I am such an advocate on these matters.

Certainly you understand the distinction between normal post-surgery recovery issues (which is expected), and the mental anguish and suffering due to negligent care leading to semi-permanent harm (which is generally addressed through compensable damages). Know what one of the top malpractice insurance policies are? Breast augmentation. Know why? Because they’re sued all the time. Nearly 35% of all claims for PS.

No, it’s not only the case with medically necessary procedures. Not only was I personally involved in a case with a young woman who had cosmetic surgery on her eyelid (zero medical necessity) and obtained first hand knowledge of the intricacies of these cases, but I also have precedent from other cases I can show. It’s 2am and I am on my phone but I can post them tomorrow. Unfortunately I am not allowed to give the outcome of the eyelid case but use your imagination. I could show cause a million different ways with cosmetic surgery. Everything from §6530 which defines professional misconduct to include practicing with incompetence on a single occasion or on multiple occasions, gross negligence, gross incompetence, and negligence on multiple occasions in practicing a profession. Or I could go to § 2805 and argue lack of informed consent. As OP said, “I didn't know any different“. The provider did not provide the patient with enough information (and at times provided the patient with FALSE INFORMATION) about his skills, the risks, benefits, and alternatives to a procedure that a reasonable person would want to know to make an informed decision. Of course, even if he had informed consent, state supreme courts have ruled that malpractice rises above this and makes it inadmissible. etc

Wow. The $250 that Eugenix charged sounds like a deal now haha.

30(ish)% is common. $25,000 * 30% = $7,500. Then there is all the filing fees, court fees, documents, paralegal pay, etc, etc, etc. These add up really, really, really fast. Plus 40% tax. The attorney would be lucky to walk away with 3k. Whch, if they spent even 1 month on your case, would be under $20 per hour pay. Which is why even most PI attorneys wont take a contingency case that is expected to be less than a 300k judgement. Edited to say: I’m talking about firms. Maybe some local private attorney with a single shingle may take a contingency with lesser amount but no reputable firm would.

Real life is not the movies. Most attorneys don't work on contingency. PI is really the only branch where you see it at more than 30% of the occurrence, and that is typically 300k+ cases. In addition to this, the winning would be too small. Let's say he wins $25,000. That's a refund for services, plus 8x punitive/emotional damage. The attorney would take home less than 3k after taxes and fees. Of course, this is common sense for anyone who has worked in law.

I can tell you've never been to law school. You can not perform a terrible medical procedure and then hide behind a clause in a pre-surgery document. It doesn't work that way. Nor are you only entitled to compensation if you are permanently disabled or disfigured. The mental anguish alone would find favor in many courts. As would the requirement to wear head covering to hide the the terrible angles that are going the wrong way. The reason that many surgeons get away with this is: 1) It's much more difficult to bring suit against a foreign doctor. 2) Most people do not have the funds in order to pursue this long term. The clinic likely has an attorney on retainer to delay, motion, delay, motion, etc. This eats away at a plaintiffs funds and many simply drop the case as they run out of money. However, a plaintiff with deep pockets can pin a surgeon to the wall if they can wait until it eventually hits a court room.

Especially when that boss is too big for his britches and won't even do surgeries anymore (unless you're rich or famous).

I read this quickly at first and I thought your last sentence said “no need to navigate FIGHTS post-op” 😂. Which wouldn’t make sense in any other thread, but in this thread would make complete sense.