Phillyman1996

2 minutes ago, LaserCaps said:

This resembles a Ludwig pattern.  You've kept the hairline but thinning the area behind it.  Could you work the area behind the hairline?  Sure.  This would help minimize the size of the crown.  Stay on the horizontal plane.  Why?

The crown is the weakest point we all share due to the whirl.  This is a point from which the hair stems.  The hair grows away from the point exposing the area.  There are two concepts involved.  

In most simplest terms, think of the crown as a circular area.  You fill it.  Because you've shown the propensity to lose, you'll continue losing.  You go on to lose all the hair around the island worth of permanent hair and you'll have created a target area and an unnatural pattern.  Retention of the native hair is imperative.  What are you doing to mitigate the progressive nature of this condition?  

The crown is a sphere.  It would take many, many procedures and may grafts.  Let me illustrate.  Grab a piece of paper and a pencil.  Draw a dot.  Draw an intersecting cross right on the dot.  Turn the paper ever so slightly in either direction, draw another cross.  Repeat until you get tired.  How many crosses, (procedures) would you need to fill the circle?  The crown can eat your lunch! We often refer to this area as the black hole of hair restoration.  Imagine the patient that allocates all the donor to the crown.  He then loses the front.  "Why did you put all my donor in the crown when I now have nothing left and still look bald?"  Keep in mind, the front is the most prominent area.  It's also the area others see when they interact with you.  

If he doesn't use meds do you think he will end up bald eventually?

6 hours ago, BackFromTheBrink said:

I'd say 5 currently. Your crown doesn't appear to have dropped a lot and you still have the bridge across your midscalp.

It's a blunt instrument though, so doesn't necessarily tell you much about the procedure you require.

Would you say most people with mpb end up noorwood 5?

Looks great 

Does your thinning show more with a buzz?

10 minutes ago, Melvin- Admin said:

Fantastic results 

Does this patient look more like a noorwood 5 diffuse?

7 minutes ago, Jack97 said:

It was UK Wimpole Clinic London Harley Street. The consultancy I had was in Brighton.

I had somewhat similar recession to you I had 3000 grafts but I got fine hair that's black on light skin

4 minutes ago, Jack97 said:

Okay interesting. I appreciate that. I had a consultation recently for the temples and they quoted me 1000 grafts which I thought seemed fewer than I personally expected. But I am not an expert. 

Who was the consult with? 

Just now, Jack97 said:

Probably, but I'm hoping when I go on finasteride that will sort it. 

 

Nice you prob need 1200-1800 grafts

Are you also thinning on top?

You prob need atleast 3000 grafts you look over a noorwood 3 you should take meds and see how you respond without meds you will probably be a noorwood 5 maybe a 6 in the future

Looks good!!

10 minutes ago, SeanToman said:

Thank you for your honesty sir.
My glabella to hairline is exactly 7cm spot on.  The highest point would be 8cm at the temples from the same reference distance.

Density work is definitely needed, 100%.
But I am insecure about the shape of the temporal corners.

Eugenix also offered this solution in the past;

 

13 minutes ago, SeanToman said:

Additional info;
My lowest point of the hairline is 7cm from the glabella (middle of eyebrows).

Mines is 5.9 wish it was 4.5 lol

3 hours ago, Diff-thinner said:

Update - 5 days post transplant 

Donor area and Implanted area 

 

How many cm is your hairline from the midpoint of eyebrow to hairline?

16 minutes ago, Sunset Dune said:

He’s losing his hair Biebers hair isn’t the same as it was 15 years ago 

Yea I know lol

Just now, SuperHans said:

 

Not even he has that hairline anymore:

 

I know 

28 minutes ago, Berba11 said:

A hell of a lot of grafts and a tiny amount of brain cells. No sane person wants a 15 year old's hairline!

I wish I had that hairline maybe I'm insane lol

How many grafts would one need to achieve this hairline? Assuming started from a noorwood 2 hairline and has medium hair thickness

He's a 2 what about him?

4 minutes ago, Melvin- Admin said:

I think your donor has recovered well. Afro hair can get away with straighter hairlines. 

What hairline do you see with Asians in nature?

Na I don't think you do @Melvin- Admin would you say this is a diffuse noorwood 5?

Just now, Bandit90 said:

Yes, my beard is extremely dense. Dr said he could take another 1000 more grafts and not compromise the aesthetics.  

I'm guessing your beard is similar to mine after 5 days no shave ?I plan on using my beard hair also if I do become a high noorwood 1 day

Is your beard naturally very dense ? Over 3500 grafts from beard seems alot

8 minutes ago, Berba11 said:

Ok, that helps.

If that's SMP it's a rather unusual design. For a HT, you could bring that down a little bit by maybe creating a widows peak - it'll make the mid-frontal point lower but without blasting through loads of grafts by bringing everything down - sort of like the designs Dr Pittella does (search through the forum to find some cases for reference).

I'm a bit confused by what you're trying to achieve though. If you want to rock a buzzcut and use a HT to give more of a 3D effect to your SMP, then you'll need to cover the whole scalp as you're roughly a NW6. But at the same time you're talking about dense packing the hairline and lowering it quite aggressively. These two things are in contradiction with each other.

I thin you need to be a little clear about exactly what it is you want to achieve here. For starts, your SMP look really high up and very asymmetrical. I'm not sure how much use it will be for you in enhancing your hairline if you have surgery. In which case, aren't you going to get more bang for you buck by getting a HT with the normal desire to grow your hair out longer? And if you are going for the SMP/HT combo 3D effect, I'd have thought you'd also want to get some better SMP than what you've had done currently.

Either way, you're always better off starting more conservative with the hairline placement. Hairlines can easily be made lower later on if you have the donor supply. Going back up because you started too low is much harder and at least double the cost!

12 minutes ago, Berba11 said:

Why do you want an aggressive hairline? In one of your previous threads you said you're a NW5 or so... Going aggressive is risky due to the possibility of future hair loss and in virtually all cases it's totally unnecessary - an appropriately placed hairline will frame the face and give a great aesthetic outcome. It doesn't have to be needlessly aggressive.

You'd almost certainly be better off going for a dense, conservative approach rather than chasing density AND being aggressive with a low hairline.

I have a noorwood 4 pattern maybe Norwood 5 but I still have a lot of hair normal people can't see much balding the doctor gave me a pretty aggressive hairline