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Does this photo means that I am going at the end to Norwood 7 ?

How can you predict how far the sides will go down ?

Is it an option to have a HT to fill the front and mid scalp and to leave the crown empty? Is this going to look natural (like isolated crown baldness)?

1 hour ago, Gatsby said:

No but I think it has more life changing results for those with scars, etc. Well at least it did for me as well as liberating me from wearing a hair piece after nearly  25 years of wearing one.

So you think smp is better than hair systems?

Any solutions for the hypo-pigmentation in the donor area ?

On 12/13/2020 at 10:30 PM, ciaus said:

I was until the lockdown. I've been working from home since March and my company has already given the ok to keep doing it all next year. When I do go out I wear ballcap for now. If it wasn't for the lockdown I wouldn't have had the courage to buzz down, and now that I have I do prefer it, not just in terms of convenience, but I like how it looks. 

This is why I've commented on a few threads where young guys with aggressive loss were asking about options, telling them to consider how even if they don't like how being buzzed/shaved looks now, they may grow into it when their face/head shape matures as they get older and end up actually liking it.

I agree when you grow older you look better with a shaved head !

@harin

How the crown looks like now ?

On 9/30/2020 at 5:32 AM, Corbinite said:

Thanks again @Sam818 I have consultation with Dr Rassman to ask about scar management/a dermatologist recommendation. I saw him answer a lot of these kinds of questions on RealSelf...lets see where it goes from there.

 

In the mean time, I've been researching top dermatologists around the country. Once I find someone that clicks, I may think about posting my procedures online here.

Any update ?

I feel the skull growth theory has a role with DHT. Look at your old photos  and see the difference !

Why this pattern  if all these hairs are sensitive DHT which is present in all the scalp ?

But in most people it follows a similar progressive pattern

Why in most people baldness starts in the front and the temples then goes gradually to the back of the head. Why DHT will attack the front first if all these hairs are sensitive to it ? Is it the skull expansion ?

4 hours ago, JayLDD said:

Spex had a hair transplant with them where virtually nothing grew or changed and it would have cost more than 10k USD.  I also wouldn't consider him a good source of information, the guy literally pushes trashy supplements for a buck that have no scientific basis for aiding hairloss.

Yes they are a poor clinic. And no Rooney was not "doomed", he's filthy rich and roughly only NW5. He literally has less than 1000 grafts on his head, there are photos from years back that show that even within a year of the transplant he had virtually no growth and relied on concealers. Look for yourself, the comment about "aggressive hairloss" and not being on meds is just plain dumb, it is a problem *purely* related to graft numbers and growth rates. Rooney has very thin hair but he could have got a B- result instead of a D- if he went to a competent clinic. 

Do you realistically think Rooney would be in this position if he'd gone to Hasson/Wong, Couto or Konior for example? 

How 1000 grafts in 2 or 3 procedures !

4 hours ago, JayLDD said:

Spex had a hair transplant with them where virtually nothing grew or changed and it would have cost more than 10k USD.  I also wouldn't consider him a good source of information, the guy literally pushes trashy supplements for a buck that have no scientific basis for aiding hairloss.

Yes they are a poor clinic. And no Rooney was not "doomed", he's filthy rich and roughly only NW5. He literally has less than 1000 grafts on his head, there are photos from years back that show that even within a year of the transplant he had virtually no growth and relied on concealers. Look for yourself, the comment about "aggressive hairloss" and not being on meds is just plain dumb, it is a problem *purely* related to graft numbers and growth rates. Rooney has very thin hair but he could have got a B- result instead of a D- if he went to a competent clinic. 

Do you realistically think Rooney would be in this position if he'd gone to Hasson/Wong, Couto or Konior for example? 

May be they refused him as many of the top surgeons will advise you not to have a HT if you have severe hair loss at young age and not on Finasteride which is a good advice!

4 hours ago, JayLDD said:

Spex had a hair transplant with them where virtually nothing grew or changed and it would have cost more than 10k USD.  I also wouldn't consider him a good source of information, the guy literally pushes trashy supplements for a buck that have no scientific basis for aiding hairloss.

Yes they are a poor clinic. And no Rooney was not "doomed", he's filthy rich and roughly only NW5. He literally has less than 1000 grafts on his head, there are photos from years back that show that even within a year of the transplant he had virtually no growth and relied on concealers. Look for yourself, the comment about "aggressive hairloss" and not being on meds is just plain dumb, it is a problem *purely* related to graft numbers and growth rates. Rooney has very thin hair but he could have got a B- result instead of a D- if he went to a competent clinic. 

Do you realistically think Rooney would be in this position if he'd gone to Hasson/Wong, Couto or Konior for example? 

May be it’s planned !

I mean to use a small number of grafts (low density) with concealers until hair loss stabilise.
The advantage that he will have less scarring in both donor and receipt areas so he will still have the option to shave his head if the hair loss is too severe for more surgeries!

On 10/26/2018 at 8:11 PM, Melvin-Moderator said:

I use Caboki all the time in the crown. In fact, it makes my hair look like a 10.  I can certainly live with needing to use hair fibers to make my hair look perfect. This is how I looked before, I keep these pictures as a reminder.

How many grafts did you have and are you using any medications ?

you donor area and hair thickness looks average in this photo !

9 minutes ago, UnbaldEagle said:

The way I see it, it's not a losing battle. Either you start early with treatment and preserve your native hair, or you have enough donor to sustain a realistic NW3 long term. In Rooney's case, that should come from body hair, but he just doesn't seem to care anymore, I think he applies some topik for now and once he's retired and no longer appearing on telly so much he'll just shave it off and will be having a completely normal life as he's loaded and famous and has a family. 

I'd be more interested what are the options of John Doe with the same aggressive MPB but without the fame, money, etc.

No I think the pressure on him is more than a normal man as he is a famous person and many people are capturing his photos !

5 minutes ago, UnbaldEagle said:

The way I see it, it's not a losing battle. Either you start early with treatment and preserve your native hair, or you have enough donor to sustain a realistic NW3 long term. In Rooney's case, that should come from body hair, but he just doesn't seem to care anymore, I think he applies some topik for now and once he's retired and no longer appearing on telly so much he'll just shave it off and will be having a completely normal life as he's loaded and famous and has a family. 

I'd be more interested what are the options of John Doe with the same aggressive MPB but without the fame, money, etc.

Who is John Doe ?

Fine hair is also a big issue. You need more grafts than people with thick hair !

1 hour ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

He’s probably lost most of the hair he’s gonna lose. His hair loss started early, by 25 he was almost full blown Norwood 5. He’s a perfect candidate now. 

It is a losing battle !

26 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

A few things with Rooney, he’s only had around 3k grafts, I think maybe 50% grew. He continued to lose more hair. Now at 35, he could go to a world renowned clinic and get a pretty decent head of hair. If he used hair loss concealers, he’ll probably look 100%

He needs like 7000 grafts + more for  expected future hair loss

3 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

You do, and if Rooney has still got scalp donor and went to a top clinic and combined with BHT he may be ok. That’s best case scenario for him. 
However I think he always was a poor candidate for a ht. with high loss already from a young age and never stayed on any meds to prevent further loss. 
Beckham seems to be in a much stronger position. He’s mid 40s and seems to still have pretty good hair once it grows out a bit. He did have minor FUE In 2018. 

He might just shave it all !

What if you become NW 7 with very low sides and back after spending all this money and time !

4 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

You do indeed. Eugenix seem to be able to do well with the scalp/bht ratio. 

I mean you still need scalp hair to get good results

Just now, JohnAC71 said:

Does seem a lot of us Norwood 6 have hair everywhere else apart from our damn scalp. Rooney does have a awesome beard 😀

Normally you need to mix scalp hair with beard or body !

2 minutes ago, UnbaldEagle said:

Anyway, if Rooney would be lurking these forums (lol), I'd advise him to go to Eugenix for 4-5K beard grafts, I mean he always had short hair so it wouldn't be an issue. His hair problems would be pretty much solved (well, until the sides start dropping too - but he might just have enough BHT for that too).

It’s the same issue. After few years the sides and the crown will go down more !

I am not sure if he also had one but it seems like he lost all his native hair.