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The clogged pores is only partially true.
Calcification occurs in most men with hair loss. This blocks the follicles.
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Old news (not the article). I remember I mentioned this a while ago on this forum and no one took it seriously.
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Looks about the same..With maybe improvement..If anything I see a positive not a negative
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14 was middle age 10,000 years ago, so i'd say the diet has gotten better. if there wer less people that were bald back then it's because you were old by 30.
Lest we forget as recent as 1900 the average American could expect to live to be 45 at most, that's right, at the dawn of the 20th Century 45 years was the top life expectancy.
That's cause of the advances made in medicine. The only relation to food is that not as many people in the word are starving. Its more abundant...And even though a lot of it today is bad..Bad food is better than absolutely no food.
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I am seeing miniturizing hairs, but whether or not they're being caused by male pattern baldness, I'm not sure yet. My doctor has told me that my anaemia or iron deficiency usually does cause this, so I'll take his advice on treating it and see if there's any change. Hopefully I'll find out within a week or two.
I would try supplementing with B12, folic acid, and Iodine..They are all relatively cheap and will enhance Iron absorption. As said, with todays western diet you should have absolutely no reason to supplement Iron..Unless you're a women. If you have anemia its probably a absorption issue.
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.In General, unless you are growing, there's absolutely no point for you to be taking Iron. We get excessive Iron in our daily diet. Its fortified in EVERYTHING.
As a growing boy your body will use most of the Iron to help you grow..But when you're done your body just accumulates Iron and its very bad for you. There's a correlation. In general, hair loss and heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes all show high levels of Iron. That's why women have a longer life span than men. When they menstruate they release Iron..They don't accumulate..After menopause their body then begins to collect Iron. Then suddenly they become much more susceptible to hair loss and a host of other diseases.
I would say too much Iron is part of the problem in hair loss.
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Don't waste your time with the laser comb.Its a over priced piece of trash. Lasers do work but the diodes in the Comb just aren't strong enough for hair loss. You could have had someone make you a laser helmet..Or made one yourself for the same price just about and it would have been more stronger and effective
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About the same time I started noticing my hair loss I was diagnosed with adrenal gland problems (along with the rest of my endocrine system). I wonder if anyone has heard if the hair returns when the problem is corrected? I've been taking Rogaine which seems to make more hair fall out at times (constantly in my hands while washing my hair). It's getting pretty thing on the top.
The interesting thing is my hair seems to go in cycles. It starts to thicken up and not fall out, then gets thin and frail and falls out again a few weeks later. I'm sure genetic hair loss is part of it, but it's really been playing with my mind.
Not sure if this is relevant. So I don't know exactly what your adrenal problem is.
What is Adrenal Fatigue?Adrenal fatigue is also known as hypoadrenia, which is characterized as
"exhausted" adrenal function, which often accompanies adrenal atrophy
or shrunken glands due to extreme physiologic and/or psychological
stress.
The primary function of the adrenal glands is to coordinate hormonal
balance, under different emotional and physical conditions. These glands
act as support to the major organs, yet their role is just as important, as
they regulate everything from body temperature to appetite to hormonal
balance.
Virtually every tissue, organ and gland in the body is affected by adrenal
function. Despite that reality, adrenal function is fundamentally ignored in
allopathic medicine. The reason is that standard tests are virtually
ineffective except in extreme cases. Hence, patients are informed they are
"normal," despite not feeling well.
Patients who fail to recover from standard treatments, often have
accompanying adrenal fatigue. During the flu epidemic in the early part of
the 19th century, over 80% of those who died had adrenal atrophy.
The endocrine glands involved here are the hypothalamus, pituitary and
adrenal glands (HPA axis). The hypothalamus initially detects stimuli or
stress signals, which elicit a response through the pituitary, and the
adrenal glands produce adaptogenic hormones to respond to such stress.
Androgenic hormones and the "stress hormone," cortisol are produced by
the adrenal glands, are sent to every tissue, gland and organ in the body,
in relative proportion to stimuli detected by the hypothalamus.
So what does adrenal fatigue has to do with hair loss? Inflammation is
always present in adrenal fatigue. What comes with adrenal fatigue
accompanies poor wound healing and sodium, potassium and
magnesium imbalances. Many with adrenal fatigue have depression who
are using prescription antidepressants. It is interesting to note that
selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), which are commonly
prescribed are relatively ineffective for mild to moderate depression, and
only marginally helpful for severe depression. This has been a result of an
examination of 50 clinical trials evaluating the net effect of these drugs.
This is even more relevant to hair loss as SSRI's such as popularly
prescribed medications such as Effexor (venlafaxine), Luvox
(fluvoxamine), Prozac (fluoxetine), Paxil (paroxetine), and Zoloft
(sertraline) and cause hair loss due to their effect on the hormone
prolactin. Sexual side effects are also evidence of this effect. Recently it
was found that some users suffer sustained sexual dysfunction after
cessation of antidepressant treatments.
J Sex Med. 2008 Jan;5(1):227-33.
Physicians often blame depression as a result of stress, however existing
adrenal dysfunction itself brings on an increased sensitivity to stress.
Resolving depression can be successful when the root or underlying
cause is addressed. The adrenal glands, pituitary and thyroid are most
likely the fundamental culprits. Secondary to that is gastrointestinal
problems, where a malabsorption of amino acids prevents the production
of neurotransmitters.
Classical symptoms of adrenal fatigue include waking up restless with
midday fatigue, followed by better energy in the evening. Often, patients
with adrenal dysfunction feel best at night.
Hypoglycemia is quite commonly associated with adrenal fatigue.
Hypoglycemia very often leads to diabetes. Problems with glucose
metabolism as discussed on previous pages is fuel for androgenetic
alopecia. Other symptoms of adrenal fatigue include high sensitivity to
stress, difficultly focusing, diminished sexual desire, and breathing and/or
respiratory problems, which include sensitivity to allergens, and/or are
chemically sensitive (multiple chemical sensitivity).
Poor adrenal gland function can result in low cortisol secretion,
paradoxically this can manifest as symptoms of high anxiety, heart
palpitations, feeling of malaise, tremors, feeling jittery and even a false
assumption of being hyperthyroid. Ignoring adrenal function could result
in insufficient thyroid support, as often these symptoms are mistakenly
presumed that the thyroid is overactive. The reason is that cortisol allows
for heightened sensitivity of thyroid hormones, allowing cells to utilize
thyroid hormone. When cortisol levels are too low, thyroid levels rise, yet
sensitivity decreases--easily giving the physician a false reading. Reviving
adrenal function will allow for better regulation of thyroid hormones.
How does one accurately test for adrenal fatigue? Answer is cortisol
testing, taken four intervals in a day, preferably recorded once per day,
at four different times and days. Insist on saliva tests, as blood cortisol is
not reliable.
If your readings are too high, you may control them with Ashwaganda
(Sensoril®) and Phosphatidyserine.
If cortisol levels are lower than average, you will need glandular support.
I recommend Standard Process products. For adrenal support Drenamin
is very effective. Drenamin works best in divided doses and should be
taken for several months until improvement is noticed. Standard Process
is normally only available by a doctors referral, however it can be
purchased here as well.
In this day and age, it is very difficult to find a competent physician who is
knowledgeable in nutrition and medicine. It is even more of a challenge to
find a doctor knowledgeable in natural endocrinology. Thyroid function
goes hand in hand with adrenal function, and as such, getting a proper
handle of your iodine levels is very important. Many wonder if there are
any alternatives to using synthetic or even natural thyroid medications. If
iodine replenishment does not solve your problem, there are thyroid
preparations to consider. Standard Process offers a product called
Thytrophin PMG. It can be purchased here.
When treating adrenal fatigue, it is important to treat all the glands to
maximize potential of complete recovery. That said, the pituitary gland can
be replenished using Pituitrophin PMG by Standard Process. It can be
ordered here.
These products can be utilized by your endocrine glands to achieve
tremendous recovery, which can be in stark contrast to pharmaceutical
chemicals, which usually serve to suppress the very function of these
glands, literally causing atrophy. Furthermore, these adulterated chemicals
disrupt normal feedback loops, creating hormonal chaos.
Some doctors believe that Maca (Lepidium meyenii) may aid in adrenal
balance, as more research becomes available it seems very probable that
Maca will be a rising star.
Andrologia. 2007 Aug;39(4):151-8.
Food Chem Toxicol. 2007 Oct;45(10):1882-90.
Asian J Androl. 2007 Mar;9(2):245-51.
Plant Foods Hum Nutr. 2007 Jun;62(2):59-63.
Phytomedicine. 2007 Aug;14(7-8):460-4.
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No argument from me.
On the subject of fruit. Its definitely overrated. The only people who do well on it are those with ancestral diets that contained regular intake of fruit.
If your ancestors are from lets say places like Russia and German you should be eating very little of it
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I think the way to think about this is from an bioevolutionary perspective. I'm a PhD student in Boston and came across something in my research that may explain hair loss. A lot of you won't be surprised that I'm studying insulin signaling.
Conceptually, you can think of insulin as a signal to the body that there's a lot of food around. The way this happens is that sensitivity to insulin is dampened with more insulin (just like alcohol, smells, etc., anything eally) So, the more insulin you have around, the less sensitive to it you are. This dampened sensitivity is a signal to the body that there's a lot of food around. Since there is a lot of food around, the body is cued to develop, age, etc. Why wait around if there are plenty of resources? They may run out, so the body takes advantage of the plethora of resources around. This probably explains why insulin resistance and early puberty are linked and becoming more and more common in the developed world. It could explain why hair loss is popping up earlier and earlier, because we're aging faster and faster. This also may explain why "low calorie" diets lead to extended lifespans in every virtually every organism on earth, from yeast to humans. If there aren't a lot of resources around, the body will be patient and wait it out until there are resources. This also may explain depression (and its correlation to insulin resistance). If you're eating so much sugar/carbs that your body is no longer responding to insulin, your body thinks you're starving. We are evolutionarily programmed to be unhappy if there's no food around so that we don't waste energy on useless things. So, if you're brain thinks you're starving, you'll be depressed.
The immune system comes in too. If the immune system is chronically active (gluten, lectins, etc.), it can cause insulin resistance. The immune system tells the body to shut down and let it get all the crap out: hence, no insulin allowed. Most of our bodies still find gluten/lectins/etc. to be foreign particles that must be destroyed. The immune system is supposed to function in a quick, efficient manner. But, if the gut is chronically irritated, which is a disaster for the body in an evolutionary sense, then the immune system will be chronically activated. It will be busy fighting off gluten etc. instead of actually fighting off infections, hence you may get sick more frequently. Molecular mimicry of foreign peptides may elicit an autoimmune response.
I'd give more info about the molecular signaling of insulin, but I don't want to give too much away because I'll hopefully be publishing on it.
So, in sum, don't eat grains, legumes, processed foods, and foods with a lot of carbohydrates. If something makes you feel like crap, don't eat it. Common sense, really. Shop on the periphery of your supermarket, or better yet, at the local farm.
You might say we live longer today. That's because the effects of clean water, antibiotics, etc. probably outweigh the accelerated aging caused by excess carbs/sugar/inflammation. But, that doesn't mean that we're maximizing our genetic potential.
Someone agrees with me.:eek:
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OK, but how does ths relate to DHT ?
I thought that they figured out what causes baldness in men when they found out it was hormonal, specifically DHT causing the hair shafts to miniaturize ??? Ya know, hairs are still being produced but are just too small and thin to see.
So if they can get these progenitor cells firing again how will they prevent them from from being killed again by DHT ???
Or am I missing something here ?
DHT is only one of the causes. Definitely not the root cause.
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I get your point.
I meant nothing by "toxins" except a metaphor for ethereal, intangible, almost mythical nuisances to our hair follicles.
And my point with that sentence was just to say that there isn't much reason to believe Egyptians hadn't been fighting hair loss ever since the beginning of their civilization 5000 years ago (as opposed to, say, after the second Intermediate Period when Greek cultural influences became ubiquitous). I used the word toxins actually to point out there were no toxins. To mean that seriously would be daft (not that toxic substances haven't been around since the beginning).
And below is the syllogism I was proffering
A: Man has suffered from MPB for millennia
B: The ills of modern civilization did not exist back then
C: MPB should not be attributed to modern civilization
Last, as I said before, I do agree there may be a connection between our modern environment/lifestyle and the early/severe onset of MPB, as with puberty. Still, I hold that any such connections would be profoundly subordinate to the root cause of MPB and, regardless, are at this point well beyond the reach of our current understanding of the hair cycle (and esp. that of some web site publisher peddling pseudo-scientific speculation).
And, as ever, I say these things with respect and with the intention to dissent like a gentleman. Please pardon my tone if it has offended you, but I must say what I think.
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That's fine. But we cant use Egypt as point of reference. I don't believe we have enough infomation to gauge what kind of hair loss or what level of rarity it was. For all we know it could have easily been mal nutrition.
Caesar was bald but he was well into his 50's by then. The point of all this is yes MPB has existed for a long time. However, this occurs in predisposed people who turn on the gene.There's a lot of people out there who have the genes for MPB but have a full heads of hair.Life stlye is the reason for these genes being expressed. I don't believe it happens for no reason and is inevitable.
The focal point is younger people are experiencing MPB at a younger age than ever before. MPB was something that use to only occur in older men. I believe the foods we eat today have caused advanced aging, particularly in the scalps of younger men..Which is why young men are experiencing MPB. We are now suffering from symptoms that only older men should experience..BPH.Enlarged prostate..Cardiovascular disease...ETC...A common trend on all MPBers is insulin resistance
Lancet. 2000 Sep 30;356(9236):1165-6.Early androgenetic alopecia as a marker of insulin resistance.
Matilainen V, Koskela P, Kein?nen-Kiukaanniemi S.
Comment in:
Abstract
The previously proven association between androgenetic, alopecia and serious cardiovascular events raises a question of the common pathogenetic mechanism of these disorders. Our practice-based case-control study in men aged 19-50 years showed a strikingly increased risk of hyperinsulinaemia and insulin-resistance-associated disorders such as obesity, hypertension, and dyslipidemia in men with early onset of alopecia (<35), compared with age-matched controls. This finding supports the hypothesis that early androgenetic alopecia could be a clinical marker of insulin resistance.
I'll get into more later. Heading to work
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if I had used that excerpt as the premise of any refutation, it would actually have been a red herring.
impugning that excerpt as one of my premises/conclusions is a straw man
Yes you are correct. Its hard to remember the dozens of variations of argument fallacies.
But you get my point. I don't need to bring "toxins" into the discussion.
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but i doubt insidious nile toxins
Nice Ad hominem. We are talking about food in general not "toxins" So it made a lot of your rant irrelevant.
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I'll post this for anyone who wants to read it.
2009 was a watershed year for hair loss information. I’ve stopped my hair loss several years ago, and before that time had periods of success and partial delay. However in the last few years I have experienced some nice forward progress.Working in the field of orthomolecular medicine, an unfamiliar term to many, is far from a “new age” methodology, and what I’ve learned over the years is the good fortune to understand the root cause of hair loss.
Premature senescence is caused from hypothyroid. Unfortunately, standard thyroid testing is far from accurate, and its influence in MPB is quite huge. I think it’s everything. Low thyroid not only results over 90% of heart disease and metabolic syndrome, it is found in 100% of all cancer cases.
Low thyroid always indicates a presence of inflammation, and various forms of hormone resistance is a result, which is indicative of premature aging.
Regardless of gluten sensitivity tests, its impact is far greater than previously thought. Lower circulating glutathione levels is a classical sign of MPB, and is promulgated by wheat/gluten consumption. However, this is only the tip of the iceberg, as there are so many other environmental and dietary influences. The good news is that they can be markedly reduced, so we do not have to live in a “bubble.”
According to one of the most respected medical journals, MPB is associated with insulin resistance:
Lancet. 2000 Sep 30;356(9236):1165-6.
I’ve never once tried finasteride or minoxidil, yet I have been watchful of my hair since the age of 19. I am near pushing 41 now, and my hair looks a lot better than it did ten years ago. Thought I’d let everyone know that fighting MPB is worth fighting against, because in the end, if it’s done naturally, it can engender health benefits.
So in a strange twist of fate, hair loss is sort of a blessing.
Some of us have a greater disadvantage than others in this fight. For example, if your mother had a mouth full of mercury, chances are that you absorbed 30% of this in utero. When other metals such as Lead (Pb) begin to accumulate in tissues, it magnifies the effects. Whether early exposure is a factor in MPB remains unknown, but at any rate, getting a root canal and/or mercury or other composite fillings is probably going to make this battle more challenging.
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Blaming genetics is a fallacy, a poor excuse for our “Idiocracy” like society (see the movie!)
Collectively, we’ve been spoon-fed garbage from the day we were old enough to understand language and will continue to be until the day we die.
The media is one of the worst propagandists of this information. Blind leading the blind.
So here is my proof, which is taken from the greatest book on nutrition ever written, and something most academicians from news media know nothing about.
[/img]FIG. 52. The Aborigines of Australia are recognized to be the oldest living race of mankind. Note the prominent eyebrows and deep set eyes. The man at the upper right is holding his spears and wamara, or spear thrower. They are very fond of decorations on their bodies. Little baldness was seen even in the very old.
Source: Nutrition and Physical Degeneration
What your father’s, father’s, father’s ate and mother’s mother’s mother can influence your predilection towards disease, however this can be epigenetically modified.
More proof:
Based on my research, hair loss is caused by thyroid suppression, which is promulgated by a multitude of influences. Of societies which are not generally subject to these sort of influences (quite rare in modern civilization), thyroid problems are very rare, however a psychosomatic influence can still trigger alopecia, as it has a profound influence on the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis.
If one reviews the research, they will find that nutrition, diet, and environment do make or break hair growth. Genes can be turned off (silenced), and most do not realize that genes are turned on due to environmental factors.
What sort of environmental factors? Here’s a short list, since there are far too many to list.
Insufficient vitamin D (dermatologists have had people running scared from the sun). Those Greenland people were undoubtedly deficient in vitamin D.
Percolate (rocket fuel), has a 30 times, greater affinity to the thyroid than iodine.
Pesticides & herbicides, have thyroid suppressive xenoestrogen molecules.
Fortification of bromide in drugs, and foods.
Fluoridation of the water supplies and toothpastes.
Consumption of wheat/gluten products
Consumption of lectins from grains & legumes.
Mercury and other composite fillings, courtesy of the dentist. In mice, it takes only 4 minutes
to suppress the thyroid upon the placement of mercury into the mouth.
Heavy metals, such as Lead (Pb), aluminum, cadmium, etc.
Insufficiency of iodine, selenium in food and in soils due to industrialization of food.
High consumption of Omega-6 fatty acids, relative to Omega-3, due to animals eating the wrong diet, such as corn and grains.
MSG (monosodium glutamate) in foods
antibiotics (allows opportunistic yeast overgrowth, controlling the hypothalamus, etc.
Bisphenol-A from plastic containers, which are found in dental sealants, the linings of cans, plastic wrapping around processed foods, and plastic bottles which are used to store water in office 5-gallon jugs.
Teeth and bone implants, are a constant source of inflammation.
Hydrogenated oils, fried foods, it goes on and on.
When the mitochondria is corrected due to these constant inflammatory insults, and the thyroid is replenished with sufficient iodine, the endogenous antioxidant system restored, there is a normalization of oxidative, reductive systems and hence, no more inflammation to hair follicles.
Hair loss is not a genetic problem, it is an environmental and dietary problem.
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Since MPB has been in evidence for thousands of years, long before the advent of processed foods, man-made chemicals, air/water/soil pollution, etc., the lifestyle changes you'd have to make to avoid it would likely involve using a time machine and living in a cave.
Quite a stretch..What genetic evidence do you have that MPB has been around for "thousands of years"?. Did you build a time machine on top of that and take pictures? Why is MPB more prevalent in civilizations that have adopted a more westernized diet. Lastly, MPB is common in older men. However it is not in younger men..Of course over the last century this trend has dramatically change. Younger people are experience MPB at a increasing rate than ever before.. You seem to totally ignore this fact.
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My understanding, through reading and talking to nutritionists etc, is that we are all born with genetic predispositions to certain things, it may be disease, or it may be certain strengths. However, environmental conditions such as diet and lifestyle will affect certain hormones which in turn affects dna expression.
For instance - you may be born with the potential to be a great athlete but if you're brought up only eating junk food and never exposed to exercise it's unlikely you'll fulfill that potential. You may be (as in my family) have the potential to develop lung cancer, but if you choose not to smoke it's less likely that you will develop it. (Only the smokers seem to be affected by lung cancer in my family).
My understanding, and I know this is contentious, is that MPB is an auto-immune disease as the body is attacking and destroying healthy cells. I would, and do, question what it is that I am doing in my lifestyle that causes this situation.
I also think looking after your health is one of the most important things you can work at and it amazes me how so many people never think about what they put into their bodies through either food, impure tap water, toiletries, pharmaceuticals and polluted air.
You hit the nail on the head. And I think a lot of people miss the point when its said AGA is genetic. AGA is influenced by genetic predispositions(multiple factors). But it seems some are inclined to believe there's one single gene that says you're going bald for no reason.
Don't overestimate what you put in your body. It effects you in every way.. How food effects your hair can happen in in many ways.
Example. Certain foods can cause inflammation of the scalp. If you don't know by now inflammation is a cause of MPB. Again simply by eating bad foods you increase inflammation. Notably foods that cause high insulin spikes are mostly responsible, since it causes a inflammatory response.
Then you also have other factors that effect hair. Oxidative stress. Free radicals. Also, a lot of bad foods can naturally raise DHT or release bad estrogen.
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"no reason whatsoever" isn't quite what I'd attribute MPB to
I don't think I'm effectively demonstrating my points, here
fante, you're right. I'm moving to Korea.
I don't think you are demonstrating them right :confused:
Of course we can't prove it as fact. But the evidence that diet effects your hair is ample. It can't be ignored.
If you moved to Korea no doubt the overall health of your hair would improve..Of course damage might already be done so who knows.
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i think your wrong....your either going to lose it or not.....ive seen really overweight people with a full head of hair....they eat like crap....if you were right....they would all be bald.....its genes buddy
You aren't listening.."Genetically predispose". Yes they can eat all that crap (lucky them)and not lose any hair.
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A few other things:
I always notice increased hairloss when I drink alcohol to excess. This is probably because of the stress on the liver as well as the large amount of sugar in alcohol. There is a theory that high sugar intake exacerbates mpb due to low SHBGs levels.
Also, I currently live in Korea, and there is ZERO premature hair loss. Ok, maybe I've seen one or two balding guys in their twenties, but that's it. I'm serious. Conversely whenever I meet with other westerners here my age (20s), practically half of them are bald or balding. 3 of the 4 westerners at my job are balding also.
Is this because a lifetime of bad western diet? Something must be be triggering it, it's can't be just bad luck.
Interestingly I see lots of bald Korean men in their 40s 50s (although not as many as in the USA), so the gene is still present, it just isn't expressing itself 20 years too soon. The Korean diet is really heavy on meat and veggies with of course white rice at every meal. Very little sugar or flour and almost no fried food.
In another thread awhile back I posted the top 10 foods to avoid when fighting hair loss. I'll post them here.
1. Alcoholic beverages 2. Corn
3. Wheat
4. Barley
5. Sugar (sugar cane and sugar beets)
6. Sorghum
7. Peanuts
8. Rye
9. Cottonseed oil.
10. Hard Cheeses
Basically any food that contains mycotoxins. The western diet on a daily bases contains a majority of those foods.
I don't find your definition of "natural" innately convincing. Please explain the reasoning behind your conclusion that a sudden, rapid onset of AGA is necessarily unnatural.As for the alcohol, it's true there's been much debate on how it affects hair, skin, teeth, organs, and so on. It may indeed interrupt the hair cycle. But then, that would be toxin-induced hair loss, or "toxic alopecia," not AGA, right?
And it's interesting that young Koreans don't seem to be losing much hair. As AGA is a genetic trait, I'd have thought their ethnicity might have something to do with their rate of mpb vis-a-vis other ethnicities more prevalent in the West. But I'm just blithering.
And again, if the diet really is the cause, then we're not talking AGA are we? What do they call malnutrition-induced alopecia?
I think your challenge is not to brandish evidence in support of the thesis that western lifestyles trigger an unnaturally early/severe onset of AGA, but that hair loss in the West is not in fact genetic in nature.
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It seems some people don't understand MPB as well as they think they do. Your definition of MPB and genetics behind it is that it happens for no reason what so ever. Plain and Simple and if its food related its mal nutrition.
From what I read and studied on MPB its definitely more complex than that. What you need to understand is that it doesn't happen for no reason. You're predisposed genetically. But that doesn't guarantee MPB. Life style choices can trigger these genetics and turn on the gene that causes MPB. The western diet guarantees a constant onslaught on these genetic weaknesses. Places like Korea and Japan don't experience high levels of MPB cause there diet is completely different. . The whole MPB happens for no reason is quite ridiculous and a brain washed fed answer.
So again someone can have the genetic trait for AGA. It doesn't mean they will go bald.. However, in America, its probably a guarantee you will
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And there are plenty of forums that touch thoroughly on the topic that the U.S. government perpetrated the 9/11 attacks and have the research to back up their claims. Most of us have a higher standard for what constitutes "research," though.
Yes. I guess National Center for Biotechnology Information is completely fill with fraudulent research :rolleyes:
And if you believe that, the folks at Immortal Hair are happy to sell you their "Immortal Hair Supplement Line" for "natural hair regrowth."
I don't have time right now to respond to every post. I have to work in a few minutes so I'll get back to it. But this is quite a ignorant statement. First off the supplement line wasn't started till 2 months ago..The site as been ongoing for years..Nor do they claim it " naturally regrows hair" Nor does the supplement say as such.Again ignorant statement Actually read up before you make such remarks. The supplements were made for higher purity and to remove fillers found in everyday supplements
Like I said if you actually read anything other than what you wanted to see you would see no one on that site claims to take those supplements in any form will regrow hair. Read up and you will see its a trial and error for a lot of people and different stuff worked for different people. Or have claimed otherwise it didn't help them.
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I am a believer that all the poisons we are exposed ot daily between the air, food water... is an accelerant in our mpb. Meaning we were still destined for it, only at a later time...
That being said, once the damage is done, I do not believe changing a diet will stop mpb, because it was going to happen anyway, it just happened a lot sooner...
With regard to claims that baldness has always been around, yes it has however much later in peoples lives.
MPB is a sign of premature aging..Look at the symptoms of a young MPB'er and look at the Symptoms of a 60 year old with MPB. They are remarkably the same. So something is hitting the switch prematurely and that switch is probably diet related.
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i don't think this subject will every exit the realm of speculation. I don't believe we are wholly less healthy than we were 5000 yrs ago. Increased longevity illustrates my point.
It's true that moden civ. brings new threats to our bodies that we might obviate if we reverted to more "natural" lifestyles; e.g, improved diet, increased exercise, less exposure to toxins, etc. It's possible there is a connection between the onset of MPB and modern lifestyles.
AGA, in essence, has nothing to do with overall health. It's like growing beard hair. It's a genotype expressed as a phenotype once androgens are and have been prevalent up to some predesignated period of time. This does imply that gene expression and epigenetics, inasmuch as they relate to external influences, can provide insight on the timing and severity of MPB; but these are not the critical factors. This is not why it happens.
But, interestingly, and much in support of exploring this question, the onset of puberty is demonstrably earlier in the past few generations than ever before, as far as science can tell. Again, this is a phenotype brought about by sex hormones just like MPB. Studies on the early onset of puberty may shed light on this, not that it matters.
To think you could make actionable conclusions and effectively reduce or stop AGA seems absurd to me, no offense.
AGA has a lot to do with overall health. Look at the studies. People with MPB are more vulnerable to being overweight, have diabetes, and cardiovascular disease. Have increased oxidative stress. Those are just off the top of my head
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Were not quite there yet and cant say I'm fully knowledgeable on the subject. But I always thought it kind of worrisome to just shut off that gene. Yes it would stop you from balding but the reason why your balding would still be there. MPB has always been a warning sign of more severe problems. In other words its a protection system..Most notable those who are going bald actually have a lower risk of prostate cancer.
Am I taking to many hair loss products?
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Its not really a lot. If you're taking fin drop pygeium horsetail, saw palmetto, and nettle... I would also drop the multi vit and opt for a trace mineral...Drop Its likely the ratios are off any way.
Drop B complex. Alt for Now Foods brewer yeast tablets. You'll get all your B vitamins (except b12) and some trace minerals.
If you take a multi vitamin I would go with Ionic trace multi mineral at mineral life. A 120 DAY supply and the stuff is really good. it contains 72 types of minerals. Not that expensive either
Keep the biotin..Though its not as important has others are making it to be..
Fish oil..Is really important on the brand. Most fish oil goes rancid. The best type of fish oil you can get Is Neptune Krill oil by Now foods. The anastaxin protects the oil from going rancid and is 4 times more absorbable and beneficial than regular fish oil. Krill oil may seem a little more expensive. But in actuality the price is about even since you only have to take one a day at a two month supply.