Ganderson

I'm also curious about this ^^^^^

Have any of you guys looking into India heard of or considered Dr. Arika Bansal or Dr. Pradeep Sethi of Eugenix? I believe they have multiple clinics, in Guoragon and New Delhi

Where is the update??? its been 4 months! VERY VERY curious on how that crown is shaping up. Need to see it in light!

Interested in maybe going to this doctor....how do they rank in India? Asides from Bhatti, is this clinic up there? Who are the best doctors in india for FUE?

Hi all, I've posted a few times here about my situation and have narrowed down my decision to do a maximum FUE yield, using beard and body hair after some larger multi - day scalp sessions. I am getting SMP in on week (little nervous) at HIS, as a diffuse thinner (currently a 5 pattern with thinning in the crown) I think it will allow me to grow the top to a 4 guard for the next year or so (until more hair goes) and keep the sides shorter. Regardless, I wanted to know people's opinions on this : I live in the U.S and was considering going to umar, konior, or vories. But then I saw the patient who went to dr Pradeep sethi in New Delhi. And I saw some Bhatti results (some good, some bad. But it got me thinking - if I went to a top doctor in India, they have to be close enough to where these 1.00 graft prices make sense?? What is everyone's opinions on good doctors outside the U.S, who can do good, scalp + BHT large FUE sessions, and maybe even with SMP as a base laid out? Any recs or opinions?

I would prefer to have medium hair length, for the rest of my life. SMP is going to act as a thickener for the next 5 months. It will allow me to grow my hair to a 3 or 4 guard length (just filling in the diffuse areas and not touching the hairlines) at which point I plan on getting either FUT or FUE.

Thanks for the response, I really appreciate the insight. To respond directly to your points - With two surgeries, high laxity, and no meds - and also the SMP base tatted around my head - going to H + W for 2 big ones, over the next 5 years you think would leave me sparse? Theres talk of worst baldness levels in my family - i have 2 uncles who are 7's, my dad is (in his 60's now) becoming a 5 diffuse, and everyone on my mothers side is full head of hair. No one with any loss really (6 brothers). My expectations are not of a juvenile hairline. I dont care about that to be honest - as ive been shaving my head down so long that I cant remember where it originally was. But, I do enjoy having it look "clean" and I think thats part of why i hate growing it out now (thicker on the sides, thin in the crown). I just want it to look "clean" with long hair - not necessarily perfect, but not "happy" and with bald spots. If that cant be acheived then OK, I can live with it - But im seeing guys (like that recent H + W patient - i have more hair than him pre op.....I would be happy with that look post op for the rest of my life!) Am i just being seduced by great pictures?? Garageland, the in person consults seem to go more positively - but I guess thats because most customers want to be sold on the solution. :-/ No easy answers.

Are there Norwood's as high as me (or that I will become) who "regret" FUE because they cant get the same graft count or quality? If yes, then I will get FUT. If not, and they are truly happy, then why not go for FUE? I would prefer not to have an ugly duckling phase because,, for me, I have been buzzing my head to a 0 for the past 10 years, and would rather have it buzzed than have the sides long with nothing on top

Its not that I want to keep my hair short in the future - its that after I get a HT, i feel like I will look stupid for 6 months while My sides are a 3 and theres no hair on the top of my head - so thats where my concern is in the short term. The second fear, which is larger, is demonstrated through this guys post http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/182759-my-story-two-futs-going-3-a.html That guy went to Hasson - the same doctor I just said I would go to, and I could end up like him in 10 years! And not be able to shave! So its either roll the dice and maybe maybe not be this guy, or take a shot with FUE but NEVER get full coverage? Sounds like maybe there arent any real options after all :(

By the way Im 28...not sure if that helps or makes a difference lol

Are you suggesting that I would need this much..?

I guess, another way to say this is, are there desperate people who have gone to H + W, only to share the same regrets that I am fearing now? or are they too good

Thank you guys - seriously - for your replies. It sounds like I might totally sap my FUE limits on the scalp by reaching 6-7000 grafts. With beard hair looking around 8000. I am going to be pretty damn bald - so I may need 10,000+ to achieve fullness. Honestly, 1) the working out thing bothers me. 2) I get super nervous whenever I think about how I have to grow my hair out to a 4. It hasnt been longer than a 1 in like 5 years (ive been shaving it for 15 years, since i was 12). I just want to grow hair, and have hair for the first time in my life. Thats why im considering this transplant. Now I shave it to hide the baldness to a 0. Am I being a wuss? I look good right now with a buzzed head - mostly because Im a bigger guy and can pull it off...Sigh. It would probably be easier if I had nothing on top. Im diffuse. Help!!! I feel like FUT 2x with hasson is what I have to do, but what I want to do is go to Lorenzo for 3 surgeries and use beard and leg hair to do the rest. Sounds like even that might not be enough to give me full coverage though. Would love to basically get 3000 scalp hair and 1000 beard hair each session, two times from lorenzo. Then go to Umar and see what he can manage to grab from my legs arms and random body areas. I guess the truth is though, theoretically, I should be able to get a strip out of my head stilll.....it might be ear to ear, and it might only be 1500 grafts because I will be depleted.....but it should still be available....i guess the transection rate here is the issue with FUE. The alternative is 2x with hasson which might get me 8000. Then fue all the way up to 10000 and hopefully be done. :-( this is depressing and scary.

Thx for the reply..... Part of what I mean by recovery, is 1) the lack of exercise, but mainly and most importantly 2) I shave my head now, and when its a 0-1 the loss is minimized.....greatly.....when its this length ( a one, two three, etc) its hard for me to deal with cause im always thinking about it...thats why i want to get the SMP now and then the HT. I think SMP, as a "permanent dermatch" type product just to lower the contrast - would help me out a lot......I'm also 6 foot 5 so its really the sitting down that kills it for me. Dissapointing to hear I wont get good coverage with FUE, i thought that Lorenzo and those guys started to make enough progress. Sigh. Shifting sights more towards H + W or Konior now...... Also, if im gona lose the hair in the next 10 years anyway, why not plant over it? Im gonna lose all the hair in the region, clearly. I was more worried if i dipped lower or if there were any signs of that........

Also...my hair is pretty short here, (shaved it 10 days ago to a 0) and this is direct bad lighting over my scalp, so take that for what its worth!!!

I've asked a few questions here, have gotten some great answers, and have seen a few of the top surgeons in the country (USA).....and am now still pretty confused, but have narrowed down my options. Please see pics below for loss, laxity, and donor area. I am planning on getting SMP done in the next month. Just within the hairline, to add density. This will serve the purpose of either adding density while I wait for the HT, or during the growth phase and after. About 1-3 months after that, I will get my FUT with H + W, or I will go to either Lorenzo/Bisanga/Turkey doctor for FUE. I've presented this to multiple doctors and they have said they are FINE with me getting it before hand (these are top doctors). My laxity is HIGH. The picture below was effortless. Doctors have told me its the loosest scalp they've seen thus far. BUT, I have had my hair buzzed for years. I have a problem with letting it grow too long, and am afraid I will be wasting a year of my life during the recovery time with FUT. I also workout/weight lift every single day, and that is a pretty important function of my life (although some of the top surgeons say after 10-12 days when the staples come out I could probably do some light lifting...and that it doesn't really stretch out the scar any more than it naturally would). Also, I have high expectations for coverage. Not for a low hairline, but if I am gonna look like im balding for the rest of my life, I would rather not get FUT, because I would want to buzz it down at some point. But, if FUT is the only way to get full coverage, then I will suck it up, get the SMP, wear a hat for a few months, and get H + W to pull out as many grafts as possible in one go ,and then go back for another in 10 months. Im sure after the first the second is easier. Ideally, I would get two huge FUE sessions and call it a day. Giving myself options flexibility etc. What do I do? I think that the laxity and high number of lifetime grafts needed points to FUT. I think that my lifestyle and happiness points to FUE. BUT, would I regret getting FUE, as I will be upset, that I can not attain the same level of coverage that I could have gotten with FUT? Cost actually seems similar (for maximizing grafts). I was set on H + W but then I saw a guy from Bosley- his hair is probably at a 5 length, and the scar is very visible, and he got 3,000 grafts and its totally see through, so now im thinking well I might be unhappy with FUT, and i might look like im forever balding and I will trap myself.................................... I also saw that recent 3 session FUE on the Norwood 6 post and while he doesnt look ideal, another pass and it might be pretty much perfect (it looked pretty dense, I was actually kinda shocked) Ok with using beard hair if necessary. I dont think body hair other than legs (leg hair is thick) would be good fillers. H + W? or Lorenzo/Bisanga? No meds, didnt work for me. Glad if you have no side effects tho! (I've also seen MFUE....looks interesting, although vertical scars seem like they would be present instead of the horizontal one...)

Hairjo - I actually have. I wear my hair short and feel comfortable with FUE - so they start out by talking about fue, but then after listening to me and feeling laxity they start saying how much more then can get with FUT, and how the results would probably be better. In the end, they leave it up to me. The best ones, at least. Plus, some of the top ones that I want to go to are all out of country.....and photo consults really arent that reassuring.

HTsoon, Do you think that if i sapped ALL of my grafts by going to erdogan (for example, or whoever you think is best) would I see the same end result as if I just went to H + W, for lets say, 3 procedures? Assuming that you and I go to FULL norwood 6's, (forget the 7, if that happens I'm not planning for it as if it doesnt seem likely now, I'm not gonna live thinking its a possibility. Plus when you and I turn, there will be SOMETHING available to at the very least HELP) do you think that the END RESULT from those two doctors, obviously one being FUE and the other FUT, are comprable? Have you seen FUE Norwood VI cases that look awesome? From which doc?

Htsoon I mean that sounds pretty damn ideal!!! Shit I WANT FUE and I shave my head so it would be ideal, like very easy to pull off, but I know I need a lot of grafts :-(. But then again, I may get 9000 fues and using some beard I might get 10,000? That should be enough for me right.... Sigh.

And for FUE.... It will just be fine.... ?? Should I be coming up with an excuse to my work on why I need a hat on for 4 months?

OK, phew, lots of good information here. I think the take away here is....FUT, because I will need a lot of grafts, dont even think about FUE until Im tapped out. So....how horrible will the 6 months be of no growth and everything? I'm mostly worried about the recovery from FUT? Will I look like krusty the klown?

I was more saying that if i went the FUE only route, and took out all my grafts max depleted everything, and if I paid the 9.00 a graft like some of the US doctors quoted me I would be paying that high high range..... Are there any FUE doctors who specialize in massive cases like this? Are there guys who used to shave their heads, got FUT, and now really regret it because they lost too much hair? What a risky procedure!!!!!!!

Do you think it makes sense to get 1-2000 beard hairs, and do a thousand regular hairs, all FUE, just to fill in the gaps for now, and then get an FUT once I feel comfortable with my hair looking all filled in and everything? Might make sense, and I wouldnt really deplete the good STRIP areas at all by doing this (only 1000 from the head?)

In addition, another reason FUT sounds good is because my scalp laxity is "the most loose scalp we have ever seen" from several doctors, one considered one of the best in the country. They still didn't want to push me one way or another - which I understand, for men, this cosmetic procedure could be the biggest in terms of effect. It's interesting how hair, the loss of it, the progression, affects all of us so deeply. It sounds like I may be complaining and hopeless but the opposite is true. I know that had I been older or worse off, I wouldn't have these options at such a young age. I'm grateful for what's out there- it's CLOSE to perfect! If I can get to 75% of having a good head of hair, how can you really complain about much. Sounds like everyone has an option for improvement!

I have a couple of fears HTsoon and you touched on some. I'm worried that I may progress to an unmanageable point - it's a fear and I don't think it's totally irrational, even though Several doctors said it was very unlikely. But nothing is impossible (their words). I also don't know how I will look with long hair, so that's a risk too. Also, shaving my head while I'm waiting for it to grow in is a huge plus - I don't know how that 6 months of waiting will be and I'm a little scared for that too. So a large FUE session by erdogan followed by 1-2 more, maxing out my grafts from head and beard sound pretty good... Followed by SMP. BUT, I just don't want to regrets using everything up and not going with strips that will probably give me better and more coverage. It's not easy for large cases, I don't feel like I can prepare much more :-(