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ej, Are you allowed to say on here how much all the work with dr Bisanga cost or could you PM me with the cost please. I'm in a very similar situation as you and know exactly how you've felt in public.

fred I'm in exactly the same situation as you even down to reparing the top with old plug ectractions and mini/micro grafts (done before fue) I also had some so called temp tattooing done years ago and unfortunately it turned blue ( but lucky only had a small area done) I really need to cover up my scars but because of the latter i'm very wary of taking the plunge. I'm in the UK, i see your in denmark. I presume you had the treatment done there? I'm considering HIS but just to do my scarred area they want around ?2000 which i believe is way too much for what it is. I did have some work done by a Lady in chiswick London, which was very good but only lasted a few mnths. I'd be interested to hear where you had the treatment done.

who is the surgeon thats doing it i'd have thought he would have researched surgeons and flown one in if needed.

Thanks for the pics ej, i know exactly what you mean about standing at a bar or in a queue situation. I have to cut my hair down to a no2 grade at the back because my hair is so fine. I would say my donor scars (large punches and linear scars) have a little bit more hair in between and my hair is quite light lucky enough so that does help, but its obvious somethings been done as its so patchy. As i said i'm not too good with pcs, so when i get shown how, i'll post some pics. Would you be able to give me some idea of what it cost you? Maybe you could try Pm me again. I don't know what went wrong the other day with receiving mails, but i'm getting them now. Thanks for the help ej.

Hi ej, I'm finding it really encouraging you posting all this as, as you may remember i'm also a UK potential repair patient. ( had some removal and replacement of large punch grafts)my worst area is my donor area. I've seen stephens (BHR rep ) and its exactly like i'm hoping to achieve eventually. You'rs is looking great and the donor area is completely undetecable. I think we're very lucky to have dr Bissanga on our doorstep. I would definitely get the train over a lot less hassle i think. Do you have any pics i can see before all the beard grafts. Sorry if you've already sent them to me, i'm not too good at filing stuff......wrong generation LOL.

sorry just seen you pm'd me

Hi Spex, Could you try replying again please? as i really need to get some answers so i can make my decision and get things sorted out. Thanks.

HI Spex, Could you explain to me how MLs tecnnique differs from HIS? I need to get this done to cover up loads of large punch scars but i'm really undecided with who to go to out of these two. His technique seems to last longer but is it because they go deeper and use different inks. On the other hand MLs work may be very expensive in the long run as it would need to be redone more often. Having had a bad experience with so called semi tattooing years ago (wich turned blue and spread,and is still there after maybe 15 years or more) although only a small area at back of head. the main things stopping me is 1) spiralling costs if multiple sessions on scars needed due to ink not taking. 2) colour turning blue/green. 3) colour spread. Some of the HIS work does sometimes look slightly bluish although it just be the dark examples and poor quality pictures. HIS are very open about things and show lots of examples ML seems to be lacking in examples. I also asked her similar questions to these,over a mnth ago on this forum, and she still hasn't got back to me. This is the sort of thing that can reall put perspective clients off. Especially people like me that have really had loads of problems caused by dodgy HT people.

Milena, you said that you'll try and answer all our questions. I posted the above questions ages ago, do you think you could answer these for me please? I'm very interested in getting this done to my scars and scalp but really need these questions to be answered,in order to make a decision. Thanks in anticipation

where can we see the new pics David?

how long ago was this done? I was also looking at a smp practitioner in Harley st called Anouska do you know if your lady and her are partners? If these pics were recent then the dots still have to shrink but the hairline is not natural looking and as said, everywhere needs more density with the sides shaving closer. Did she say the treatment was complete? if she did i'd find another clinic like HIS and have more density and a softer more natural hairline. To neat hairlines arouse suspicion as you get older.

azazelgs wher the rest of you're story re smp with ML?

Hi Sl, Thanks for the reply, i totally agree with BHRs policy when assessing new ideas, Thanks.

I wonder how soon someone like Dr Bisanga would adopt dr wesleys techniques once they were proven? Maybe Steve ( Dr Bisangas Rep )could give us some idea on what Dr Bisangas opinion is on this.

Hi ej, Do you have any recent pics of the scalp donor repair area? i'm interested to know what percentage growth you think you had. Thanks for posting all this its given me lots of hope to get my mess repaired when i can eventually get to see Dr Bisanga.

Are these pics immediately after treatment? as it does look a bit dense will this fade a bit?

Hi Milena, How does you're technique differ to say the HIS hairclinic? apart from them using inks that last a bit longer (not a good thing in my opinion) Having looked at some of your work even though it looks very good and natural, to be honest in pictures and videos it looks the same as HIS work. Which looks just like shaven hair. I dont seem to be able to see a 3D effect. Am i missing something? I'm very interested in getting this done and a 3d effect is definitely more appealing. So would you be able to explain what makes your method different to the HIS clinic apart from the fading time of inks used? and how this is achieved (without giving away any secrets of course)? I have a lot of old punch donor scars and linear scars from 1970s 80s transplants, but only want to cut my hair to a no 1 guard.

Thanks for telling me that, it'll be good to hear what happened. The only reason i was interested in her, was that she was trained by a Dr pouteau, who used to practice in Paris. He was the first man that actually started to help repair a load of really bad transplants i had in the 70s and 80s. So i thought maybe she was a surgeon that kept busy just by word of mouth and liked to keep a low profile. Having researched thoroughly on repair surgeons the next man to work on me will be Bisanga. I was just interested in Cuhzac because of the connection with Pouteau.

Hi JJ, thanks for the reply. Can you tell me how your technique differs from someone like Melina Lardi from Beauty med Italy. Her pigments fade away after 1.5 to 2 years which i think is a good thing if you are going grey and then maybe even silver white. What stops your treatment bleeding or turning blue or green? I have my hair cut to a no2 all over, the top looks fine after many Hts but the back has many plug scars from early Hts. 20 years ago i had some so called semi permanent tattooing on some of the scars and its still there having turned blue and bled. Although only a small area. So you can see i need to be really sure before i commit to any company. Thanks

Why cant i access the pics?

where are you based? and do you have any pics of scar and punch scar camouflage i could look at.

when beard hair is placed in the scalp does it take on the characteristics of scalp hair? the new crown hair looks the same to me. This gives me a lot of encouragement as 450 grafts seem to cover quite a lot of scalp. I'm looking to get them placed in old 5mm donor punch scars and although they cover the whole back of my head, not many would be needed in each scar as my hair is quite thin surrounding the scars.

I've been researching Dr Cahuzac and she was trained by one of the early transplant Drs using mini and micro grafts ( as he used to call them) from a strip technique. This Drs Name was Dr Pouteau from Paris. He's retired now or he may even have died This man was the first Dr to start repairing the mess that had been done to me by the Harley dean clinic, Transform clinic,Mediform clinic. all from London, back in the late 70s and 80s. In my opinion he did a great job considering the options available. He made my large pluggy dolls hairline look accepatable again and closed up old donor areas leaving only very thin scars.( i still have quite a lot of old plug scars) Unfortunately because of the other butchers wrecking the donor area he never had a lot to play with. I was put in touch with him, by Dr David Fenton from st Thomas's hosp in London. He's a consultant dermatologist that has run a hair clinic since the 70s and has helped many people like me try and sort out the mess we were left in. At the time he said Dr Pouteau was the only Dr he would trust in Europe. I cant tell you how glad i was to find him, back then. So i've looked at some of her work on her website and her hairlines look amazing. She also carries out consultations in London. She does FUE. I still need to have more repairs now that techniques have improved ( BHT etc) but the point i want to make is i think there are plenty of top drs out there that dont need advertise themselves but just get work through quiet word of mouth. Now i dont know if she is as good as some of the Docs we read of here but Dr P was definitely ahead of his time back then, so all i can say is she had a good teacher.......in my opinion. I've been looking at Dr Bisanga but now i've found this lady again i'll definitely look a bit closer at her work. Hope this will maybe bring some more people out that have had her treating them

Thanks for the advice and encouragement ej much appreciated

Hi ej, i'm in a very similar situation as you. the whole of my head at the back is covered in strip and old large punch scars. I've been looking into Dr Bisanga as a possible candidate for doing BHT into the scars, so seeing the results of your treatment with him is really encouraging and gives me some hope. unfortunately i've been ill for 5 years (caused by Drs again) but am now getting better, so cost is quite a big issue, could you give me some idea what this is costing you please? its ok to pm me if you want. I have been in touch with the BHR clinics rep Stephen, and he has asked for some pics. Ufortunately i'm not sure how to send them at the moment so until i get someone to show me it would be good to know the kind of money i have to find. I had my first HT by a clinic called Harley Dean in Londons dean st. I found out later the Dr was a ex dentist. this was around 1978 i was 24, and so started a lifetime of unhappiness in the hair dept.