AB2000

https://hairtransplantnetwork.com/graft-calculator

Ps. don't risk Turkey.

3 hours ago, Trevorjames said:

my question is this. Should I go with the same clinic for a free retouch or look elsewhere?

 

If I was in your position, and after waiting for the full results to become evident, I would not go back to the same place if I considered it sub par.  If the doctor and techs had trouble with your hair type in the first place, they will continue to do so.

Look through the forum for patient and clinic results to get examples.

There's also some recommended surgeons on the site:

https://hairtransplantnetwork.com/best-hair-transplant-surgeons

3 hours ago, asterix0 said:

Dude, you're still missing something. Do not look for turkey. Just because you bought a ticket to go to turkey does not mean you need to get a transplant there.

HDC over in Cyprus is not far from Turkey and has a similar cost.  It's a recommended clinic here if I'm not mistaken.

14 hours ago, Adrenaline7 said:

One thing I’ve always wondered is how do these “hair mill” clinics avoid bad reviews on Google, Trust Pilot etc if it’s a 50/50 sort of chance of getting results. I get that it’s easy to fake good reviews but how do they avoid bad reviews. 

One of these clinics that draw in a lot of people, name escapes me right now, clearly had google reviews which were copy and pastes, with certain words altered.

Turkey's clinics have their advertising costs reimbursed by their government, so they can afford the review farming services that are out there.  I don't know if Clickworker has done hair clinics specifically, but if you see the types of jobs they post you know companies like them are used, and they hire people to write reviews for small sums of money.

The gamble with with that country is the lack of regulation and how easily the techs, who do most of the work can be swapped out from one day to the next.  And we've seen it where the techs perform multiple types of surgeries, not just hair transplants.  You never know who's going to wind up working on your hair.  No matter what the Doctors claim, at hair mills they are minimally involved.

The downside - an unnatural looking head of hair - is worth bailing on the travel cost for most people.

2 minutes ago, Bb111 said:

I'm not so sure because race is very complicated. Are Indians, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, etc. all considered Asians? What about Latin Americans who may have Indigenous and Spanish/European heritage? 

I inferred him using the term Asians to mean what westerners used to call Orientals, or people from places such as China, Japan, etc, and not to mean those from India or Russia who have different genetic histories.

In the case of North and South American aboriginals, they appear to have migrated to the continent about 10,000 years ago and split off into different tribes settling different regions over the centuries.  Old photos of non-mixed men show them with their distinctive lack of hair loss, even in old age.  I think shiba's characterization more or less matches observations, so I am not sure what you are confused about.

On 11/4/2022 at 5:30 PM, Melvin- Moderator said:

Been a bit MIA this week. My son was born on the first. Glad to see he had a decent head of hair, I was born completely bald on top. I have a theory that those who are born bald, will go bald. This is pure speculation and conjecture, but that’s my suspicion. 
 

https://www.today.com/parents/meet-9-week-old-baby-who-s-going-viral-his-t103579

On 2/6/2021 at 9:48 AM, Panamera13 said:

So basically I feel a bump at the hair follicle and the hair falls out with the root. Also the scalp is itchy and red bumps appear every now and then. I did go to dermatologist and they have clobex steroid spray to help with inflammation but I was wondering what will happen if I do an HT - will the transplanted hair stay or eventually fall out.

Any update on getting the LPP under control?

On 7/9/2022 at 12:16 PM, ciaus said:

There are some more serious and lesser known conditions where hair follicles are actually attacked and destroyed. Estimates are about 3% of population have one of these. And if you are one of the unlucky ones, you'll want to have the condition in a 'remission' state for at least a few years before considering a transplant. And even then since they have no cures and the potential to flare back up at any time, its always going to be a gamble transplanting hair. 

And this is the "X" factor on why some random hair transplants fail, even when going to a doctor with a good track record and the surgery done properly.  The procedure can kick up something like Scarring alopecia to those who are prone.

On 9/17/2021 at 6:34 PM, pkipling said:

I've had seborrheic dermatitis on and off throughout my life, and have finally gotten it under control over the past few years. Nizoral helped tremendously, particularly when I had an outbreak, but I must say that the best thing I've found in terms of longterm effectiveness is focusing on preventing outbreaks altogether. I started paying close attention to what was contributing to my scalp acting up, and it was primarily 1) different styling products I would use, and 2) the frequency at which I washed my hair. Little by little, I was able to eliminate various products that I was allergic to, such as Aveda. And then by eliminating them (among others), it really helped minimize the frequency of my outbreaks. I also noticed that I have to thoroughly wash my hair pretty much daily, otherwise my scalp gets super irritated. 

Hopefully the Nizoral really helps when you have outbreaks, but best case scenario, you can figure out what your particular triggers are and hopefully find a way to keep them at bay.

Just wondering, in regards to your point 2, how often did you wind up washing your hair after changing the frequency?  Did you wash with the Nizoral shampoo more often or less often?

In the past year I've adjusted down to washing my hair with salon grade shampoo once or twice a week.  Did you switch to using the Nizoral daily to prevent outbreaks of this seborrheic dermatitis?  Or do you space it out?

I had the opportunity to visit my hair surgeon in person this past week and went in to do photos.  Not that I noticed it but he said my scalp was inflamed.  I had been showering with ControlGX for some days before that to wash out the grey, as it acts over time, but it was causing my skin to sting a little bit.  Dr. Umar mentioned in the last year he began screening patients for an inflammation condition that causes scarring around the follicles as that can be a detriment to keeping native hair and with transplantation results.  So when I was there he did a couple of biopsies so I will find out soon if I have this condition like some others on this forum.

If you can find a surgeon who can do leg hair extraction successfully, its only utility is for repair cases where there is no other useful types of sources left.  The best non-scalp option would be beard grafts.  It behaves the most like scalp.  Leg hair has a short growing phase, then it goes dormant for months.

Don't risk it.  Many people have had bad hair transplants and go back to the same place for a "repair," making their situation hopless.

16 hours ago, Cosmos said:

Q. Can you explain how painful would the anaesthesia be for the beard part?

Q. What would in your experience be the extraction and its impact on the transplant?

I have had four surgeries that have used beard grafts.  Having the face numbed was by far the most painful part.  The various injections in the scalp was not that bad, but whatever tool was used for the face, it felt like a roller with pins on it.  The last time I went for surgery I had nitrous oxide which helped take the bite out of numbing the beard.

Not sure what your second question meant.

That was a rapid amount of hair loss between 2014 and 2018.

One of the best ways to find a right surgeon is to look up case results from patients within a 1-2 year window (ie. recent).  If you can't find any, don't risk it.  Beware google reviews for Turkish hair mills, they've been caught spamming this feature.  If you see bad reviews for Turkish clinic you're interested in, even if it looks like there are more Good ones than bad, skip it too.  There needs to be a very high threshold of proof from a place in that country otherwise you are making a gamble and can come out looking worse than before.  Use the Advanced Search feature on this forum to do some detective work.

It will be interesting to see how this result unfolds from one of the more senior forum members.

53 minutes ago, general-etwan said:

If you're in the U.S. it will be difficult to find a price point <$2/graft

I imagine that would be impossible, rather than difficult.

59 minutes ago, Twintwin said:

What if you occasionally sleep with Toppik on your head? (I.e., don’t wash it off before bed)

Be aware that it will come off on your pillow, so switch to a black cover.

Which witch is which?

2 hours ago, AC80 said:

So no one replied to this?!?!  Anyone have experience with any of the two clinic's mentioned?

The forums are searchable.  You will find many posts to answer your questions.

I am confused with the wording.  How can it be stated that these grafts are body hairs when it is stated that scalp is included in both surgeries?  Also, the fact that the man appears to have had an initial transplant isn't addressed, unless the "before" photo was the between surgeries stage?  It's hard to make out exactly what this patient's road to the end result was.

1 minute ago, Hysteria said:

Got it. Current choices are now Bicer, Turan, Gur, Yaman.  It is interesting that going to places like vera, clinicia, etc are all hair mills with mixed bag results. You see some nice one year results sometimes on this forum or reddit. But 95% of you are all saying that it is basically a gamble?  I don't want to gamble. I was under the impression that the botches were more rare. But you all know better.

I haven't seen a single botch from Bicer yet, perhaps this is the way.

What we've read from people who have gone to such places is that more work is done by technicians over there than by the doctors, and since their techs change out frequently, you will not know who will be doing your surgery at a hair mill.  That's one of the reasons why it is hit or miss, different people doing the bulk of the work.  Doctors who you see well rated here are always involved throughout the surgery and there is that consistency over time.

Another problem in Turkey are clinics that do other cosmetic surgery than hair transplantation, and with their techs working on those other types of procedures as well.  The regulations are different in that country to allow this to happen.

There are decent doctors out there, but you'd be advised to look up their results by patients to get their track record, and to consult to find out if they can do your hair type and amount of hair loss.  If what the doc is offering seems to good to be true, then the risk is high.

I think you will have a better time if you went to Vegas with that money.  Most likely you will not receive the result you are looking for from Turkey at that price.