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Thanks for your answers. If I were you, I'd think the 3 bad months were worth it, too. I can totally see that if one transplant is going to set you up: it's worth it. I saw a doctor a month he told me that if I went down this path, I'd want at least 3 operations throughout my life (i'm like a NW2.5 or something now, at 25 years old). I just couldn't go through the hell once, wait a whole 9-12 months to get a good result, and then repeat 3 times, unless I was going to have a mane like Robert Redford's by the time it was all finished. Congrats on your result though, really great outcome IMO. Given my condition, though, I'm thinking about going the hairpiece route, and checkin' this sumbitch out /watch?v=g-dD7RJcEs4 (add this to the end of youtube's address. i don't want to hijack this thread with a giant video of something unrelated)

Now that everything's all done and good, I feel that I can now ask a question that would otherwise be indelicate: how do you deal with the way your head looks for the first three months after the surgery? Seriously? I could handle just staying in my house 24/7 for a few months if I had to in order to regrow hair, but that's not an option. Forget socializing. How do you go to work and talk to people and expect people to be able to listen to you and concentrate on what you are saying when your head looks like a disgusting, bloody mess? Again, I'm not saying this to be insulting, your result looks great now, but I just wonder how one can even *function* in society in the interim without grossing everybody around them out. Since I have *never* seen anybody with a head that looks like this in real life, I have to assume not too many people are getting HT's these days, and it makes it all the more harder to imagine being seen like that for months (as opposed to say, braces, which are considered normal even though they don't look good until the improvement is done).

Hi Bill, Could you kindly send me a PM without necessarily opening me up to be able to PM everyone else? I just sent this email address a message too. Thanks,

Haha, 5-10 years. Don't get your hopes up, kids. I started coming here five years ago, and they were saying the same thing. People said they were saying that because it's relatively soon, but far enough that you don't have to have any kind of evidence to back it up. I think those people were right. Just wait, one day somebody who reads this post will log on in 2016 and see a nice fresh link to an article that reads about how the answer to all your hairloss problems is just 5-10 years away.

Right now I'm using a product which may well be snake oil called Spectral RS, but I'm still losing hair on my current regimen, so I'm a little desperate. Problem is: Spectral RS looks like hell after applied. Actually, it looks pretty much like what Rogaine liquid looks like, but maybe worse. Rogaine FOAM, however, is a great product cosmetically, and actually makes my hair look immediately thicker. Does anybody know what it would take, or what would be a good way to get the cap off the Rogaine foam? I'd really like to just drop in my Spectral RS liquid, that way it all gets mixed in and comes out as a foam. No more messy, nasty application. Any ideas?

Whoa, hadn't seen that bit about the 2015. That is mental. 6 years for trials.

Hey, I didn't get much feedback to my post recently about Histogen, which kind of makes me think the mods and the people who pay a lot of attention to this stuff think it's bunk. New news though: Histogen is now selling ReGenica already (at quite a hefty price). So apparently this stuff doesn't require a lot of FDA approval....at least in its topical application. Which of course brings me to point out that the hair regrowth trials they are doing involve injecting the scalp with this stem cell concoction. Do these results impress you guys, and do you believe them? If this is legit, I think it could be an extremely valuable tool in the fight against hair loss. http://www.hairsite.com/hair-l...air-growth-trial.htm

google news is always the best way to search for such things. http://www3.signonsandiego.com...owth-r/?zIndex=54014

I used Finasteride for two years, and two years after quitting I still have Peyronie's Disease and ED. Connection or not, some things are worse than hair loss, and some things are not worth the risk.

Why is nobody talking about it? They released a picture that looks to be good results. Although, they are now being sued for patent issues.

Hi all, I found some Nioxin 2 and my grandpa's that he says he doesn't use. I was just wondering if anyone had any positive or negative opinions on it. I just put it on my hair, and I'm doubting it will really be worth putting on in the mornings to have to wait for it to dry. I think I'll stick with my Rogaine foam, but I just wanted to see if someone else had an opinion.

Ok well, I finally did make this call. At first I could not find the hair department of this facility, but then the operator found it after some additional checking. I cannot say that I remember 100% for sure that this was the same number, but I'm sure there's not a big hair department at this facility. Anyways, the lady I talked to said she had no knowledge of this and sounded quite confused how I could hear something like this. So, I don't know what to say. The phone number that called me was different than the one that I called, but I didn't tell anybody I was calling this facility, and no one at my house could have heard this, so unless someone with access to such materials at this facility decided to play a prank on me, I have no clue where to guess where this originated from. Sorry for spreading bullshit on the internet, but I did qualify that it was possibly bullshit, still, it's unfortunate.

Anybody heard of this mesotherapy stuff? I wonder if it can work... Apparently it's these injections into your head, they say it's big in L.A. amongst some people. Sounds like that means it's too expensive.

One thing is on our side, however. Profit motive. I just saw an interesting 20/20 with John Stossel on YouTube about the health care industry. Here is the relevant part 6. [url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=E_KCLm9cekU&feature=related]http://youtube.com/watch?v=E_KCLm9cekU&feature=related According to them, the procedures that are not covered by insurance are where patients expect the most bang for their buck. Like Henry Ford and the Model-T, that is where theoretically the most innovation should be, and in practice this has applied to some cosmetic procedures, and Lasik eye surgery stands out as one of the most improved and cost dropping procedures. They say that in this time Lasik procedures improved from this competition, it didn't run stagnant. It's hard to know exactly how universal healthcare might be implemented in the United States, but in many countries the government sets the price for many surgeries. Obviously, HTs would not apply, so this could be an advantage for those who wish to profit off of us, and for us if we are willing to pay. (although possibly bad for others, if you believe the arguments against universal healthcare). I think that if there is a way to practically cure this (obviously a bigger IF than we may have believed a decade ago), then it should be found within the next 15 years (assuming universal healthcare in '08), because for every girl willing to spend $20,000 to fix herself up, there's gotta be a guy willing to spend $40,000 to get back the hair he had at 18. Hell, I'd drive a truck in Iraq for a year if I could get that back, and retain it. But then again, is there anybody here that gives a damn if they have a full head of hair in 15 years if they don't between now and then?

What I want to know is, is there ever going to be a new, more effective pill to deal with hair loss? I have developed Peyronie's disease, and it has inhibited sexual function, so I discontinued Propecia a year ago. (you are free to believe there is no correlation. maybe there isn't, but after looking at the anecdotal evidence of others online, I have decided it is not worth the risk. if I ever fix this PD maybe i'd be desperate enough to try it again, who knows?) Unless I take Propecia, or a new pill comes out, I don't think that there will ever be an option for me, because any HT I get will require use of Propecia too, I'm sure. I posted something 1.5 years back, but obviously it was some kind of misinformation. It sounded fishy at the time, though from a reputable source. Man, I really hope that something else will come out someday! I'm too young to be having all these problems.

Anybody know anything about this stuff? What's a good one to use? What's the impact? who knows, maybe it could even cure baldness.

ok, i haven't thought about shampoo for a while now, as i've been out of the country, but it seems that Revita is the new hot thing here and nobody is talking about Nioxin anymore. So lemme know, should I buy this Revita instead of Nioxin? i know people used to say that you shouldn't use the same shampoo every day, so should i get revita and Nioxin? I used to use that Nizoral twice a week (2%), but i stopped since it made me so itchy, i figured scratching my scalp was worse than any potential good from that stuff.

I agree, I'm sure that it is BS. I'd like to call, but I'm pretty sure that the people who answer would think I'm a complete moron, and probably wouldn't believe me. I wouldn't hold out any hope for such a magic pill. If I DO call, I will be sure to mention it here.

damn, i'm still having sides. it's been almost two months now, doesn't appear to be getting any better. i quit more or less cold turkey, so i would suggest anyone else quitting to taper off somehow.

I was going to call them back this month, but I'm out of the country now, so that won't be happening. I'm not holding out any hope that this is legit anymore. Maybe someone in clerical decided to play a joke on me, I don't know. I'll be back in America in December, so I'll give them a call then I guess.

Not a terrible idea, but (and this is coming from someone has symptoms of side effects (i say SYMPTOMS b/c i can't know for sure if it's from the drug)) the internet will always attract a disproportionate amount of people who think they have something wrong. First of all, it attracts the people who come on and check before they take the drug, and those people are more likely to scare themselves into believing they are afflicted. Second, people who are afflicted will come here more often. If you're 40, you have a job and a family, you went to the doctor and everything went great, you probably won't spend too much time talking about it to people on hair loss message boards.

I won't lie, I haven't been doing much of anything right lately. My sleep schedule has been all over the place, definitely no circadium rythm left. i have actually been exercising recently, but i guess i'm still not too regular about it. i have actually been eating pretty well though. but the sleep and the exercise are bad. i need to run too, that's my main problem. i have no endurance while running, and i think that could cause problems with endurance elsewhere, so my next goal is to work on that. sorry for the attrocious spelling, trying to get to bed.

First off: Matt: I take Zinc in my multivitamin, but I'm going to start eating more broccoli and taking l-arginine too. Do you really think l-phenylaline, l-tyrosine, and l-theanine do anything though? I've never heard of them. Do you think "the broccoli treatment" has helped with the drinking the broccoli water and all? Have you tried anything else? Anybody have an opinion on Horny Goat Weed? I think that this is a very interesting thread, and I can definitely understand everyone's point of view. I used to wonder (and still do to some extent) where these claims of Propecia causing severe sexual dysfunction came from. Was it from internet pranksters? Did rival drug companies circulate it to hurt Merck? Was it actually a widescale problem that was never prosecuted because even if it takes years, once people get their equipment to start working again, they generally do not want to admit to anyone, much less the world through a lawsuit that they couldn't get their penises to work (as this is one of the most established parts of manhood)? Could it be that this does happen, but only to a small percentage of people? I don't know the answer, but I too had to quit Propecia eventually, only for me it wasn't until I'd been on the drug for 2 ?? years. Because I myself, often avoid long posts, I'm going to respond to this thread directly in this paragraph, and give you my story and background in the subsequent paragraphs. Even though I have had problems with Propecia, I know that it has helped a lot of men, and I would not want to take that away from them as long as it wasn't hurting, so I disagree with some of what Matt says, but Robert, the fact is, Propecia doesn't list its side effect as being as extreme as what I've heard and what I've experienced, and I do think that should be looked into. Right now a Swedish facility is doing research into whether or not Propecia could cause longterm sexual side effects. Unfortunately, I don't know Swedish, so this presents a problem. http://www.lakemedelsverket.se/Tpl/NewsPage____5522.aspx I found the link from wikipedia's Finasteride page. Also, while the anti-drug company sentiments may seem extreme, please understand that when you are in your lower 20's and your dick isn't working right, and this problem doesn't just go away, it sticks around for months, you start to get VERY NERVOUS. And then you start to get very angry and perhaps not entirely rational. Personally, I have decided to vent my anger toward God, but I can't entirely fault Matt for venting his anger towards the pharmaceutical companies. To run through the symptoms quickly: yes, I have noticed bags under my eyes. My main issue was that my penis started to curve to the left, and then it seemed it couldn't get the bloodflow to get as full of erections as I used to. I recently went to a doctor and he said (after I pressed him) that if he had to guess, it's probably been like this my whole life. The only problem with that is that I'm pretty familiar with my penis. We've been pretty well acquainted for about 8 years now, so that explanation is worthless in my opinion. He said I could try Viagra, but honestly, I'm too young to concede myself to using drugs to get hard. He told me a surgery could straighten it, but I'm skeptical if that would help, for all I know it would make things worse. The worst part is that I'm still in college, and on my parents' insurance. I REALLY don't want to have to explain to my mom that I need get surgery or take Viagra so I can keep my dick hard. What I'm really pissed about is that he didn't do any bloodwork or hormone checks that I've read other people write about. That's the kind of thing that would be good to know, but I went to a respected medical facility. I didn't bring in any pictures to show him, and I really regret this. I was told that pictures were necessary, then I was told they were not necessary, and I deleted them b/c that's not the shit you want on your camera when visiting your family for the weekend. But really, I think having pictures is the only way the doc can actually make an informed decision. Nonetheless, he did say that he could see a slight bend even in my flaccid state, but that discontinuing Propecia would probably not correct it in his opinion. Oh, and I keep forgetting to add, that he said he didn't think that the bend was Peyronies' Disease. Whatever that means. I'm thinking about going to Planned Parenthood and seeing if anyone there can give me any advice. I would agree that exercising and running has helped (except at first when you're tired and your legs are sore, then it's much worse). Watery semen? You bet. Although now that I've quit, the other day I noticed my semen looked the way it did on Ben Stiller's ear in "Something About Mary" again. It had been so long, I'd forgotten all about that. The question is, did Propecia cause this? Well, this is my story, you decide for yourself: I started taking Propecia in January 2005. My dermatologist hadn't agreed to prescribe it to me citing "sexual side-effects" in males as young as me. I figured he was just trying to scare me, and it was a rare thing, I'd done the research that said the sides go away after discontinuation, plus I knew there are drugs for that stuff, so I wrote him off as just being a jerk. I went to me GP and got a prescription. Also, at the same time I got on an anti-depressant called Lexapro. I was concerned about sexual sides with this med, however, and after one month discontinued Lexapro, partly b/c I thought it may have ever so slightly hurt my sex drive, but mostly for other reasons (like that I didn't feel depressed anymore). And then I was back to normal and it was great, so I cannot really say for sure if I had sides at first from Propecia, because I would have blamed them on Lexapro, but even those sides don't compare to the ones I faced later from Propecia. I read some of the extreme horror stories about sexual problems, and although I was always conscious of them, they never bothered me. I remember as recently as December 2006 (two years later) thinking there's no way this Propecia stuff has affected me sexually, as my appetite was through the roof! Then I decided that I should try to shock my system so as to not to build up immunity to Propecia. Hair wise, it was a good choice. I noticed my hair look thinner in the front from possibly the shock loss, and then I seemed to think it had thickened after a few months. But my penis was starting to feel strange and disconnected. By Spring Break of this year, I was starting to become quite concerned. Instead of being able to give myself an erection whenever I needed, I now started to had to work at it. (oh BTW, also grew hairs up the shaft of my penis. Somewhere God is laughing his ass off about that one.) So finally after several months of fairly disappointing erections, I shaved my head totally bald. When I did this I stared what before this was my greatest fear in the eye, and made the decision that the way I looked bald wasn't worse than my penis not being all it could be, and I stopped taking Propecia. That was over a month ago. The situation didn't really get better, and 1 week ago, it was really really bad to the point that I was almost entirely impotent, and unusually small in my flaccid state. Something like that really makes you feel like less of a man, and although I had no immediate suicidal temptations, I thought if it stays this bad for years I'll probably kill myself. To me, it wouldn't be worth it to go through the rest of my life impotent. For some reason, the past few days have been a lot better, so I am hopeful that now I am on the uphill journey.

By the time you have kids that are losing their hair will be at least 20 years from now. I wouldn't worry about it because either A: there will be huge breakthroughs by then and everything will be good, or B: by that point we will be more worried about the fallout of the dirty bombs and gasses and water poisonings that destroyed Washington D.C. 5 years prior or something like that (not to sound like a crazy "sky-is-falling" doomsday nutcase or anything)

1st of all, can someone please delete the fucking ad for save-your-hair.com above me. sorry about that. STARGUITAR - I'm about to write a long post in response to Matt Skiba on his other thread. I've been having some side effects, and eventually had to stop Propecia. I'm still having problems. But I also remember how desperate I felt when I was 18 starting to go bald, and honestly if I had to take the risk I'd probably do it again. That being said, in hindsight I wish that I had not taken the risk. Here's and idea (and what I did before deciding to quit Propecia for good): shave your head. Buzz your head and then shave it to the scalp. This is what you will look like if you go bald (and have the dignity not to walk around with a horseshoe on your head). This will help you to make a risk-benefit analysis. If you can live with this, maybe don't consider Propecia. But if you think you look like a freak without hair, you might want to take the risk. Best of luck