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I've seen that pichar plenty of times. I'd like to see some real photo graphs. Not just one pichar of 1 person, but several.. Plus thats a computer generated image.

 

 

were talking a penny sized piece of scalp with 179 hairs in the area jumping up to 263 hairs and the hairs getting thicker..... that sounds amazing.....

Id like to see a picture of this 1 centimeter area that you are talking about. a real picture of it. Thats the only thing that scares me. They haven't realized a photo of it, and that makes me wonder....

Then stop taking it if you are worried about it. plain and simple.. id wait a month to see if it goes away though...

are you being serious right now?

With finasteride, you never know what you're going to get.. It might go away after a month or so of taking it, and your body finds an equilimbrium, or it might not go away till after you stop taking the drug. Or if your like me it may never go away.

If it were me, i'd stick with it with or without the side effects going away, bc you can still get erections just fine as you say... It just depends wheather you want a high sex drive or keep your hair.

its hard to get a read on just how high your hair line is with long hair.. But if your hair is parted to one side, like it looks in the pic it looks fine.. if you're not losing your hair then I dont see what the problem is other then you having a high hairline.. Where it long you have it. It looks fine. Thats how i used to wear mine till i started losing it..

Remarkable.. I'd robb someone to pay for this IDC how much it costs.. thats really good news. I've always thought that this product would be the best hope we have...

I lift heavy weights 4-5 times a week.. don't do a whole lot of running.. maybe once a week playing basektball.. lifting heavy weights helps raise T levels..

as far as months is concerned.. i've been off it for 11 months... and im sorry if i showed any agression towards you.. I've been in a really bad mood about this lately.

well smokers usually use cigarettes to relieve stress.. so you will probably become more stressed out while you're trying to quit.. maybe that could lead to a shedding or pulling out more of your hairs lol.. I dont think it'll be anything you'd notice though...

You can hope all you want for this stuff to work out, but as far as hair cloning is concerned I don't think its coming anytime soon. Quite honestly it's not that important to the world...Baldness isn't a life threatening...so therefore no one is going to throw a lot of money at it..Our best bet is on Histogen really.. and that even wont help nw6-7's...They fall better into the 5 year frame then any of this hair cloning crap... that's why I don't really get to into it..

Matt- as for you thinking that your side effects were just psychological..you're probably dead wrong. I'm sure it was the fin. I've been through it all with this drug and let me tell you, when you have the side effects, there not psychological...Being 22 myself there is no possible way that being worried about having side effects would effect your erections..You mean to tell me that if a really hot chick wanted to do it with you, you wouldn't be able to get it up.. come on... if you had sides they were real.. nothing to do with your head....of course that's how it would have been for me.. if propecia hadn't ruined my life forever..

Finhairloss- if you dont take finasteride.. then why the hell do you have the name finhairloss....?

mischelstraus-- what?

You just need to get on propecia.. No one would even know you lot any hair in your temples if you wore it long..

Dude you would never know you had a HT. it's really incredible.. Now if only everyone had your hair characteristics, donor supply and scalp laxity... wow.

I agree with Blondie.. do not go to that site.. it will scare the hell out of you.. literally.

why would you want the sheds to come back?? I never shed from propecia, and had great success with it...

the word fair, and liberal shouldnt be used in the same sentence...

I don't think propecia had anything to do with your scalp pain.... However, .25 every mwf is probably not enough.. try .25 EVERYDAY.... if ur taking the very low dosage to try to avoid side effects i would recommend doing that.. If your not then take half a pill everyday or eod.. 1mg usually stays in ur system for 24-48..

Yep looks like your a diffuse thinner... Get on propecia ASAP. Hopefully you'll salvage what you have and even regrow some....

adios

I'm wondering if anyone here has tried Dr. Jones's instant hair product..? I believe it's on his website if you do a simple google search you can find it.. I don't want to post the link to it.. Anyway, If anyone has tried it i'd like some feedback on it please if you don't mind.. I looked for a topic of it on here but found nothing..

thanks.

Stay on the drug, you've only been on it for 3 months.. I did not see results and stoppage of shedding till the 4-5 month.. stay the course..

bye.

NO it does not. Don't you see older men at the gym with full heads of hair.....?

I would wait till you get completely back to normal, If it takes 3 months for it to get out of your system then that's how long you should wait.

Originally posted by Destin:

I understand a lot of the skepticism about PRP, but I have just undergone two PRP treatments through Dr. Joe Greco and I feel like they do in fact work. I am new to this forum, however, I am very active and known through another forum, if anyone wants to check on my other posts. My username is: iwannakeephair1674

 

I think that there are way too many people focused on the "awe factor" on this forum and not appreciate what PRP actually does. I will give a little history of my hairloss regime.

 

I am a 22 year old male and first noticed early signs of hairloss at age 19. When I first noticed hairloss I got on Propecia, lasercomb, and Nizoral Shampoo for a year. I used this for a year with pretty good results, and then I upped my dosage of finasteride incrementally to where I currently am at 7.5 mg Finasteride daily. I take 5mg at 7am and 2.5mg at 7pm. Many people ask why I do this and the reason is because the half-life of Finasteride is 4 - 6 hours and I want at least 1mg of Finasteride flowing through my body at all times. The reason being is because I want to safely inhibit as much DHT as possible. Now those might question it's safety, however, I've had my bloodwork checked and upped my dosage incrementally to see how my body is responding, including my liver plus having constant communication with my doctors. Now the reason I believe it is safe is for a couple of reasons:

1) I get myself checked out (bloodwork) pretty frequently

2) During FDA testing, there were safe dosages up to 100mg of Finasteride taken safely daily.

3) Older men take the full 5mg Finasteride (Proscar) without a problem, 2.5mg is not much more

4) People who take .5mg of Dutasteride inhibit more DHT than my 7.5mg of Finasteride, plus the long half-life of Dutasteride causes a LOT more accumulation of the drug than Finasteride does.

5) I consulted two doctors with this and they were on board and had good communication with myself and I understood the potential risks.

6) Finasteride is generally known to be safe because it only inhibits 5-alpha-reductase Type 2, rather than Dutasteride inhibiting both types of 5-alpha-reductase, which the importance of 5-alpha-reductase type 1 is still questionable

7) I already had a full year on Propecia with no side effects, so my body responded well with Finasteride and I felt confident in myself that it would be worth the potential risk.

 

-Now I'm in NO WAY suggesting anyone else does this, this is just what I felt might be best for me.

 

-I'm a big person on maintaining the hair I have because I am very thankful for the head of hair God gave me. I have used the lasercomb since the beginning (still do) but I figured that it cannot hurt any and if it helps in the least bit of maintaining, then it's worth the one time fee of $500. Since I have been using it from the beginning, I cannot pinpoint exactly if it works or not because it could have been the Propecia I was taking, but again it can't hurt.

 

Alright that describes a little of my history and now I will talk about my experience with PRP.

 

I had my first PRP treatment with Dr. Greco on June 23, 2009, and I had him focus mainly in the frontal region where hair is more stubborn much like it is with Finasteride (because the frontal hairs probably has more androgen receptors than the back). Since then I noticed about a 10% increase in thickness and lighter hairs turning slightly darker. Also, new baby hairs have emerged that wasn't there before. Now if you looked at my pictures at (promotional link removed) (although I never had a transplant) you won't see a "shock factor" much like MOST people would not have a "shock factor" with a proven treatment like Finasteride. But if PRP can give similar results of what Propecia provides, then that makes it worth it alone. If it is able to maintain your hair than that is a miracle within itself. We KNOW that Finasteride works for hairloss, yet time and time again people don't really see much of a difference, because it's mostly used for maintaining, but yet we don't question the validity of it, because of research.

 

Now, I feel like Dr. Greco has been doing the right steps in researching and don't really appreciate the harsh criticisms people give without having all of the facts. I believe he's been doing the best he has from what he had been given due to the following reasons:

1) he conducted studies with the little money that was granted to him through the IAHRS

2) he has been completely open with all doctors coming to him and sharing his experience

3) he pushed it to go through a LARGE study through the IDE at one of the most renowned Dermatology places in the world located in Italy

4) he is completely open that it's still experimental, and is very upfront in the beginning about this treatment.

5) Some people question him because of the fact he charges money, but people must take into consideration, the supplies cost money, the centrifuge costs money, his staff costs money to perform the procedure, HIS time costs money b/c what would be his opportunity cost if this was completely free?

6) He has truly researched PRP to such great extent, you would realize this if you would talk to him within 5 minutes. He consistently looks at the science of PRP and regularly communicates with experts on the subject and collaborates data with them.

7) He is totally upfront and says that this is experimental and has NOT made any false claims about this treatment.

8) Now I have talked to OTHER patients (who aren't active in the hairloss community) that are happy with their results and they feel like it does work too

 

So all in all, he's HELPING people and is truly genuine, but then there will always be someone to question the good doctors, which I can understand. This industry as a whole caused it on itself with years of deception, but we ARE out of the dark ages IF proper research is done.

 

 

But all in all, I'm NOT the perfect candidate to completely give it's validity because I am, in fact, on other treatments at the same time as PRP. However, my intention was never to prove to others if PRP worked, but it was to benefit my own hair situation. However, is it coincidental that the places I had Dr. Greco focus on with PRP heavily that the hairs got darker and new baby hairs popped up. Plus I immediately noticed less fall-out of hairs, probably due to PRP putting my hair in an early anogen phase(growing phase). Although this is completely by observation and not measured I already expect that most won't believe me, but my sole purpose is to genuinely say (I have nothing to gain from this) that I feel like it DOES in fact work. I personally will continue getting this treatment done every 6 - 8 months as I just have on January 11th.

 

So please whoever researches my pictures on hairtransplantcommunity, please be sure not to get all technical with lighting and all that and the fact that the second set of pictures were taken by a cell phone by me in his waiting room right after the procedure, as my purpose is to just simply give my own experience and opinion.

 

Again, please be not SO quick to judge this technology until more research has come out, because it IS going to be heavily tested and investigated by the Dermatology located in Italy. But all I can say is that I DO in fact feel it has worked on me and I'm satisfied with my results, whether anyone believes me or not.

 

I truly hope this has helped some,

-Destin

7.5mg of fin? For one.. that's overkill... and two, I would think your body is going to become immune to the drug much faster... Plus I wouldn't buy anyone's story of PRP working while on Propecia.. especially because propecia can help thicken up miniaturized hairs as it did with mine at an incredible rate..

just my two cents....

Folko, You have to realize that results vary from person to person... I had zero shedding from this drug and saw increased thickness and regrowth within only 4 months..My problem was I had the sexual side effects... I'd say if you're not having any side effects, just stick with it.

Originally posted by captaincaveman:

Hey i was wondering what dr feller thought of histogens hair formula? http://www.histogen.com/products/hsc.htm It seems to me to be essentially fairly similar to the idea of prp

You're better off sending him a message then asking him through here...

After listening to the interview with DR. Cooley, I seem less enthused about this.. He's only willing to accept helping scared patients . Which is great for them, but doesn't help anyone at any stage of hair loss..I don't see this becoming any help anytime soon.