cardel25

I'm not "promoting" anyone, and you are wrong if you don't think Dr. Umar is ethical. I know the difference between ethical and unethical in this industry as this aint my first rodeo. I have now dealt with Dr. Umar for the past 2 years and if he was not ethical, I'd of realized it.

 

I cannot speak to the plan Dr. Umar has for this patient. He just did a session on me on Friday of 2200 grafts and told me my first available opportunity for an additional session should be a minimum of 10 months. I don't pretend to know exactly what plan he has in store for someone of his level of balding, or what sources he intends to use, and what his timetable is. But the fact is I trust his judgement based on his results.

 

My own personal opinion is that minoxidil and finasteride helps you keep the hair you have rather than grow hair you don't have, that's why I think the promotion of this is really just a waste of time and money for someone at his Norwood level. Someone who has less hair loss may experience some regrowth, but would a combination of both make an appreciable difference? I really don't think it would.

 

Anyway, my .02, one can take it or leave it.

I am a living proof that finasterid can regrow hair and minoxdil can too. It regrows hair in 4 out of 10. I cant remember in how many cases finasterid regrows hair but is also a good number. I advice you to get your facts right before giving advice about something. Please take a look at the pictures at my profile then you can see the dramatic change that meds have given me. I was a NW5 pre meds and changed to a NW3a after. Because OP is young and already is a high NW level there is a very good chance he can regrow a lot of hair. If he was 20 years older i would say that the chances was minimal.

It could be that Umar is ethical in this case aswell then he just doenst know how minoxidil and finasterid works like you. I would think that thats just as bad.

To OP research research and research. You have been getting a lot of advice in this tread that you should reconsider the value of.

I definitely think it would be a mistake to start with someone other than Dr. Umar because you essentially limit the effectiveness of his work if you allow someone else to use up your resources and commit you to a hairline design of their making. I mention this because that is a mistake I made myself, although i hedged my bets and didnt let the other doctor frame a new hairline. Instead I did a BH test session that ended up wasting both donor and money, neither of which i had an excess of. I just did a 2200 graft scalp beard mixture yesterday, and from that we were able to shrink a level VI scalp to a small bald spot. I am only hoping this round turns out as good as the first round did which is when he did my hairline, which exceeded my expectations. My only regret thus far is I did not start my repair journey with him from the beginning. Whether it is repair or blending multiple sources for extensive coverage my research over the past 4 years has made me think Dr. Umar is in a league of his own, a pioneer in this field. And that is in no way meant to diminish the incredible results ive seen from Hasson and Wong, the leaders in extensive coverage using strip. If you do decide to go with a mega session I would advise you start with Dr. Umar, as I wish I had of. Good luck in your journey.

You honour H&W for their good strip surgerys. I would ask you to take a look at this users pictures. There is a good chance that if he starts propecia and minoxidil that he could manage with only head hair. In that case it would be a big mistake promoting dr Umar like you do. I understand that you only say in your post that he is the master of blending different sorts of hair ( i dont think hes the best in the world for that but thats a different discussion). In this context i think that your promotion will only get OP to think that he should go on with dr Umar which in his case could be a huge mistake.

I also think that dr Umar isnt a very ethical man if he can propose 20.000 grafts surgery to OP if he havent adviced him to use finasterid and minoxidil.

As a young man (25) and going through as same hair loss level as you , my advice to you is that you should consult with megasession experts like Dr.Rahal or Dr.Hasson.

 

Go see them and if they think they you are a good candidate (unless you go for nw7 and donor thinning,you are) , go max out your strip grafts. I have a feeling that you haven't done your research enough that they have "life changing" results with higher nw levels. Most importantly, they are considered as one of the most ethical and honest doctors out there.

 

Then, if you are still not satisfied , take your chance with fue. Dr. Umar has some great results but I have to agree to most people that body hair is definately not same as head hair. And if you start with strip , you don't loose your fue donors but if you start with fue , you decrease your donor density.

 

Thirdly, you should check out scalp pigmentation. I honestly don't think it's a good idea to tattoo your whole head, especially the hairline but after few ht's , it can act like permanent toppik to give some density. But most importantly, I believe it's a great way to hide the scar.

 

Hey , I told you my plan about my hairloss:)) But most important issue is that I think you should start your journey/research with Dr.Rahal or H&W. They are the best in the world with dealing such advanced hairloss.

This is without doubt the best advice. Combine it with starting propecia and minoxidil and you would save a lot of money and get a much better result. Im not saying that Umar isnt a great surgeon just that Rahal and H&W are better and that body hairs wont give an optimal appereance,

whom would u recomed Dr. Madhu or Dr. Radha ?

I would choose Radha any day.

I think that Nizoral 2 % is the best of those shampoos. Especially if you already take a Biotin pill. Thats one of the ingredients in Revitas shampoo. I think that Nizoral can do some but not much alone unless you have dandruff. I think that when u use Minoxidil that its vital to use one of the shampoos as it helps keeping your scalp healthy much more than a regular shampoo.

I am interested in hearing how bald the men and woman in your family are ?

Hey dude,

 

I know that you have it in your signature, but is that all you've ever done in terms of medication?

 

I ask because you have had probably the best result from medication from anyone that I have ever seen on the HTN. It actually appears that it has regrown a significant portion of your hair, as opposed to simply preventing further loss. You looked like a NW5 in the pre-med pics, but in the post-med pics you looked like a NW3V!!!

 

So my question is this: is the regiment listed in your signature what you have been doing from the very beginning in terms of medication?

 

Also, have you experienced any side-effects?

 

Again, you have the best result from mediation that I have ever seen. You and I have similar hair characteristics so I'm interested to know because I'm seriously considering starting medication as well. Any advice you could give me would be appreciated.

 

Lastly, I hope your HT is coming along well. Be sure to post some pics in the coming months.

 

 

 

Corvettester

Hey Corvettester.

I have never used anything that is not listed in my signature to prevent or reverse MPB.

Im glad that i am the best case you have ever seen. Its always nice to get a compliment And regarding your NW judgements i think that you are right. I do think that i was lucky i started just after the year where my loss of hair had accelerated most. I had a lot of hair that appeared to bee lost but i think that it was just very damaged and that i was on the verge of loosing it. But i also noticed hair regrowth all over my head especially from finasterid so there were also a lot of hair that was lost.

Finasterid, Minoxidil and Nizoral is the ones that gave me the most.

I experienced quite a lot of side effects actually. Fiasterid caused libido problems, and a very severe paint in my testicels, tiredness, cognitive deficit and so on. But i have tried medication before that caused lots of side effects so i knew that it was a matter of time before i got used to it. That turned out to be right.

Minoxidil caused me to sweat a lot more and rapid heartbeat (this is just in the hours after applying it), cognitive deficit, iching, red scalp.

Like Finasterid the side effects decreased over time.

I am now at that point that the side effects is close to none.

I have decreased the frequency that i use Finasterid and Minoxidil. Inow only use Finasterid 3 x a week and havent lost any hair. And my hair is still getting thicker. I actually think that there is a good reason in trying only to take it 1 x week. I will try that sometime in the future.

I only apply Minoxidil 1x a day now. There is really no reason applying it more for maintenance. Its virtually the same. I use H&S shampoo with almond oil instead of Emu oil now but both can contribute t reduce redness and itchiness from Minoxidil.

I do think that my HT is coming along well. I can feel that many of the hair has passed my heads surface so its starting to get very interesting.

I will post pictures next month.

Hi Cardel,

 

Your hair line looks amazing ...wish u good luck .. did you see any pre and post op pics of Dr. Radha rani work before ? i never heard about her in this forum . Is she worth to give a try ?

Hi.

Thank you for your kind words. I do think that she have done a great job creating my hairline. I can tell you that you will get a top surgeon that will do everything to service you the best way she can. I could tell about her for hours. She gave me a treatment i will never forget. I cant recommend her enough. I received some pictures of past clients from her it included before/afters. If you ask her she will provide you the same.

Subbu isnt online at the moment so i will give you an answer instead. At the moment her charges is 50 Rs. pr graft as you mention. The same prize as Madhu. But there is one major difference in the price. Radha only do one surgery a day at the moment. Where Madhu does up to 3 surgerys a day. So when you take that into perspective i think that Radha?s price is very very cheap.

Some of the transplanted hair has now started growing again. Its not so easy to see so i will wait to the 3 month mark before i post any new pictures. I am starting to get a bit eager to see the final result. Waiting aint any fun

since it seems u did good R & D on HT , pls suggest a good Surgeon . I am based in Mumbai ( India )

Thanks

You can take a look at the tread i created where i have described my experience with Radha Rani. She is a very skilled surgeon and she performs hairtransplants in Vizag India. I cant recommend her enough: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/162096-my-hair-transplant-radha-rani-5-august-2011-a.html

She is the same doctor that SUBBU got a hairtransplant from.

On a 1-10 scale i would say that the pain level is approximately 1 1/2

I like this transformation very much. There grafts are placed very smart.

I would like an update on your second procedure with Radha.

This case illustrates why Rahal is the best in the world. Amazing result he must be very happy.

I have never seen a guy with so much hair opting for a HT. I really dont think that he needed it.

And please stay away from Rajesh Rajput. I have seen some very bad cases from him and some patients have complained about him on this forum. I have seen a case where he clearly cheated a patient and transplanted fewer grafts than the patient payed for.

I highly recommend Dr Radha Rani. Look at my experience with her here http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/162096-my-hair-transplant-radha-rani-5-august-2011-a.html

But if one had a hair transplant how will it work ? I would be worried if it would happen that in the area where i have gotten transplanted hair the density would be much higher than the region where i havent had transplanted hair. Because there would be a lot more minuturiazed follicles that could be rejuveniled in the area where i had hair transplanted.

Am i making any sense ?

This is very interesting. I just signed up to their mailing list.

Congrats! Looks like a well designed hairline. It's going to look great in the months to come. The scar definitely is looking great at the initial stages, and will certainly be better in the months ahead. Keep us posted and good luck. Looks good.

Thank you very much. I am glad that you acknowledge these things. I agree with you that the hairline is designed well. It was the doc herself who did the hailine. I am sure that its going to look great. My girlfriend said to me about the scar this morning that if it wasnt red it would be undetectable even though i have a shaved head.

I will keep you updated in the future. I hope that you will follow my progress.

Hi,

 

Your donor scar is looking very good and it will improve as time goes by.

 

Good luck

 

Regards rod

Thank you for you reply. Your comments means a lot to me.

This is my 1 month update. I shaved my head for 2 reasons. Reason number 1 i is that it makes the lenght of my hair the same all over my head. Reason number 2 i wanted to see how the scar really looks like. Its easy to have an undetectable scar when you have long hair. I think that my scar looks very good at only one month mark. I cant wait to see it again at the 12 month mark.

I have a spot where im bald right in the middle of my back. It is caused by an accident as a child. Its not because of shock loss. I would have liked that it was because then there would grow hair there in the future. But its easy to cover when i grow my hair longer. My plan is to never shave again lets se if i can succeed with that plan

No its not. Actually many claim that the foam is more effective.

The work looks very refined. With that amount of graft placed in such a small area you will definately have an amazing result. I would agree with you that you were not a NW4 pre op it looks to me that you were a NW3. And i would say you were closer to be classified as a NW2 than a NW4 in my opinion.

Congratulations with that high number of grafts left in your donor region. That must feel great. I like your conservative approach towards meds.

Im looking forward to monitor your future progress.

I will edit This tread tomorrow. Im not that good at creating post from the phone as you can see