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If you were to have a procedure by Dr. Konior or Dr. Gabel for example who both do very clean work, you could get away with it after about 12-14 days, IF you also had some amount of native hair behind the shaved area to comb down or comb over.

Looking back at pics from my largest procedure with Dr. K of around 1,500 grafts I was redness free at day 12.

You could copy and paste a list of surgeons into a post separated by commas and then see which ones get blocked by the sensor filter, on the lines of what Speegs said.

PM'ing guys who've been here since the early days circa 2002 is another method also mentioned.

What Bill said.

 

Basically, to protect the HT itself:

1. Protect grafts according to clinic post-op instructions, especially thru first 10 days

2. Sit on your ass and wait a year

 

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To protect further hairloss, take finasteride. Minoxidil proven to work too, but I don't take it so I have no opinion on minoxidil

Some sound advice there, the large part of the leg work is choosing a surgeon who produces few if any subpar results prior to the surgery and then taking care of the grafts post-op weeks 1-2.

The rest is just maintenance and avoiding known evils -> especially sunburn, over using Nizoral, and getting things checked when you see something out of place.

I would get the refund and then go with a doctor who has the lowest chance of producing subpar results, for example Konior, Erdogan, Lorenzo class of surgeons.

Once you've been wronged you shouldn't go back.

Sean makes some great points.

There are no really "affordable" FUE surgeons in N. America but there a few very qualified surgeons.

Vories, Diep, Konior and Baubac (I'm not 100% convinced but worth mentioning) are the main ones to research.

For more affordable options there is also Belgium and Turkey (Erdogan and Keser).

It's been a little bit less than 2 months since I had the last procedure done, and my hair has grown back a bit from me buzzing it down.

The key point being I survived without any shockloss whatsoever thanks to the careful and elaborate work of Dr. Konior.

Stick and place all the way for transplanting into existing hair!

Also seems to be some new hairs sprouting not only in the right and left lower temple points at this early stage but also in the frontal third area behind my hairline, as my hair on that side was a bit see through in certain lighting before.

I think I have achieved a level of transplanted density which gives a natural looking appearance, but it has been a very long journey including my Nizoral hair loss setbacks after my Hasson procedure.

As long as the lower temple points continue to grow in the next few months I think I'm done finally. Which is a bit of relief after all the small procedures so far...

As per my policy I removed the pics after a few days to protect my privacy. If any long time / established HRN users want to see them or the previous post-op pics etc I will upload to a photo album here. Just let me know by PM.

N. America: Dr Diep, Dr Konior, Dr Vories

Belgium: Dr. Bisanga, Dr Lupanzula

Turkey: Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Keser

The docs above produce few if any poor results, and should be in your final list.

Research it exhaustively and have online consultations until you find "the one".

good luck

This has been a fun one to watch.

When you were asking lots of concerned questions in the beginning I knew it would all work out in due course and tried to tell you not to sweat it, reason being you had chosen a surgeon with well established results.

At 4 months things will only continue to get better.

Agreed as well, stay lower dose if just starting out.

The one main side effect people do report is acne so build up to a higher dose very slowly.

Post some pics and detailed feedback as you will be the first going with her from this forum.

Best of luck

I would try low dose 2x week rather than high dose 1x week.

.5mg Propecia or .625 Proscar (5mg pill cut into eights) could be something to give a shot.

I've had good results with the latter with benefits to my hair without the side effects.

If you didn't notice this oiliness prior to your surgery then maybe the trauma to the scalp did something to overstimulate your sebaceous glands.

The biotin wouldn't have that effect but the saw palmetto could on the same lines as I mentioned about propecia.

What did your surgeon say about this btw?

Did Dr. Alexander instruct you to use the witch hazel in the recipient area as well as the Banana Boat aloe gel? (search shows it does contain alcohol)

I would be careful with these in the recipient area especially in the early days post-op.

Also, people who recommend using "aloe" should add the disclaimer to use the 100% pure form or not to use it.

-Witch Hazel and coconut oil worked for me while aloe did not. Aloe left a layer of sticky residue which was difficult to rinse gently.

What were you using the witch hazel for?

It's typically used post-op for reducing redness but be careful not to use until around 10 days post-op.

Also "aloe" products often contain alcohol unless you're using 100% pure from the plant, so also be careful of applying the former mentioned variants early on post-op.

Did you recently start Propecia as well around the time of your HT?

Initial oiliness from starting Propecia has been noticed by some, but usually subsides after a while.

My guess is that it's from this aspect which is affecting your hormones causing upregulation of sebum production.

Looking great at this early stage man.

Early growth is a hallmark of the work done by Dr. Gabel and Dr. Konior.

Excellent natural work as always Dr. K.

Great job.

Looking great man, these are the fun times.

Enjoy it!

I think shock loss from transection etc is a real possibility depending on which doctor performed the procedure and the tools and techniques used.

Who was your surgeon btw?

Hopefully it'll turn out as temporary shock loss but take careful pics each month to monitor it.

Very suspicious first post just to register to say all that.

OP stated on page one he slept on the left side and later mentioned results lagging on right side, so you can be darn sure hsrp and others have already read that part.

Also experienced and veteran HRN members are well experienced with this doctor's results and this is another classic example.

We're here to help out real people unlike you who are most clearly a clinic rep or former Bhatti patient.

Hsrp and I'm sure a great many others work with Indian professionals in their lines of work, so you can take that bias part and shove it up your ass.

This has nothing to do with India, Turkey or any other country nor FUT vs FUE etc.

We're simply pointing out the obvious facts in this case and trying to help the OP reach a positive solution.

I think we discussed a pretty thorough list last year which was fine-tuned in the thread itself.

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185387-what-causes-failed-transplants.html

Patient side:

- physiology including health problems, scalp issues, being a poor/slow grower, scarring from previous surgery or past injury

- not following the key important postoperative instructions

- injury or damage to the grafts accidentally

- choosing the wrong surgeon without doing proper due diligence and research

Doctor

Poor technique

- transection of existing hair follicles

- placing an overly excessive graft count in the recipient area compromising blood supply

- removing the grafts for extended periods of time outside of the body

(most say 8 hours is the upper limit, but the longer left outside the body the lower survival rate)

- harvesting outside the safe zone

- poor FUE extraction technique damaging follicular structure

- poor incision method or graft placement technique

- placing the incisions too far spaced apart leaving gaps or holes in the density

- using the wrong hair direction and hair angle as it leaves the scalp

Administrative

- not hiring qualified techs to work at the clinic

- not having a clean and sanitized surgical area (leading to infection etc.)

- not using modern equipment or tools, or conversely over relying on robotic techniques

Technicians:

- mishandling the follicular structure after it is removed from the scalp

- using the wrong storage method/solution during graft storage phase

- tech graft placement error, such as choosing multiple hair units for the hairline and temple points [*edited this one based on feedback]

Mikeyhwk makes some great detailed points I was trying to make with less words but the message is the same.

If you ignore that solid advice then I think you're putting yourself at great risk.

3.5 euros/graft is cheap for docs that do great work.

The others are what 1 euro/graft?

You get what you pay for so be careful out there..

Looks awesome man!

I knew you were trying to contact him last year, glad you were able to get everything worked out.

Should make for an awesome result.

Keep us posted.

I agree that this is not a good result. While it does not look terrible or overtly artificial or anything like that, the transplanted hair nowhere near matches the density of the native hair. I could have told you from the pictures taken just after the transplant that this was never going to be a dense result. Contact the clinic and see what they say. You will not see a big change after the 12 month mark.

 

I believe that this particular doctor tries to do too much with not enough grafts, resulting in fair coverage but bad density. I have seen this with his cases time and time again. I also have issues around the artistry of his work but that is somewhat of a nitpick. As a result, I am not a fan and do not believe his work to be on par with the elite North American doctors or their European counterparts.

I almost completely agree with this statement.

The graft placement is too far spaced apart and anyone who knows hair transplant results and what dense post-op photos and the ultimate result look like will be able to see this right away.

In some cases this doctor makes things look Ok and I guess those are patients with thick caliber and or wavy hair.

The OP unfortunately has dark but fine to average caliber hair so the final result gives a see-through look.

The good news is there is likely plenty of donor left so hope the OP can get things worked out in a second procedure.

Best of luck.

As I always mention I'm not a big fan of shampoos such as Nizoral especially 2% (though you did mention Lipogaine in this case).

I don't think it will hurt to drop the keto since you're on the proven meds for hairloss already.

Overuse of keto shampoos can cause more harm anyway.