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Understood. In your personal experience, are these stories all cooked up? I gladly confess to being an outsider to the entire debate so may have missed a lot of nuance.

Thanks Future HT Doc!! Valuable insight. I sent you a PM with some more details of their claims about what they have revealed. Dont know if it makes sense since I am really not upto date with all the terms they used in the description.

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Many thanks Taking the Plunge. About shedding will it take a year to stop? Because I really dont have a years worth of hair at my current rate of shed on my front. Any back of the envelope estimate will help. About medicines: I used Minox 2% foam today, and am pretty down energy wise, plus have a bit of a chest ache as I am typing this. The slightest of exertion has been making me feel breathless. For the record, I am not a hyperchondriac (though I am lazy and not in the best of shape, but not usually so out of breath). Like I mentioned in my previous post, the past five years have been absolutely brain fogged. I forgot all about my health, exercise etc, plus had a bad accident, a bunch of small broken bones but now healed. I am afraid that while externally I may pass as ok, the average 30+ male, not ripped but not obese either, I am internally messed up, and not in a condition to handle the extra stress potent medicines add. I feel a lot of the side effects that we have from meds are often worsened if we are in poor shape. Hence my worries about Fin.

HT Doc, I'll try and dig up what I found. It was basically from surfing a lot of threads on forums such as propeciahelp and others, where a fairly statistically significant number of people seemed to be complaining about erectile dysfunction and a lot of severe health problems. Also had the chance to speak to a doc, (family friend), who was very non committal about fin. - arguably he is not an expert, but I dont know he was not "sold" on it. For the record though, my dermatologist whom I went to, said Fin. was ok, and only affected 2% of the people. But like I mentioned initially, he seemed to be reciting stuff off a box, and didnt have much to offer on the topic, bar "take Minox, bye bye, see you".

You are not getting it. My problem is that this has happened on top of all the stuff I went through, and it came out of nowhere. Its been hard for me to cope. If it had happened 10 years back, well that would have been that. Right now, I am looking to get hitched, and baldness equals "be alone" in my culture and society. So no, I didnt expect to have hair till 80 and I didnt exactly make it through my 20's without any major hair problems. My hair problems started when I was 27, its just that with all the stuff at the time, dealing with family issues, career choices, breakup etc, I stopped thinking of myself and forgot that a thing such as a mirror existed. Call it five years of absolute and total brain fog, when every day is a chore by itself. So you only think about the next day. Now I am 32, I thought things were looking up, but.. The biggest problem I have currently is the rate of balding. Its like a tsunami. Every day, whether I am showering or even on touching my hair, my hand comes away covered with hair strands. If my hair remained at the level it was for some years, that would be one thing. I am panicking because it seems like in six months I will have huge see through patches in my vertex (front) which I cannot disguise. In a year, I may be bald. Its not doing any wonders to my self confidence or stress, either. In the US, I could go Vin Diesel if I was in the US, but I am not there and where I am from, there are no debates whether "bald is s***y or not", not at my age anyway. Trust I explained myself better.

HT Doc, reason I posted the link is for you to take a look at the pics, did they appear faked to you or real?

Hi Tuja You based out of India? Nanogen is this hair loss concealer..it works well (supposedly) but i work in a closed office environment and its pretty expensive in rupees plus the pain of putting it on everyday...:-( Am thinking of this product revivogen as well, which supposedly blocks DHT.. Can you let me know what those guys say or whether it sounds credible? How has Finasteride been for you so far? And is there any dermatologicst you have visited /would reccomend (if you are in India). Sorry for all these questions, but am pretty much at my wits end here. HT Doc, Thanks, didn't know the forum had such strong rules against external links. Keeps the paid spammers out I guess, who are the bane of the net.

At 5% itself, I feel short of breath and my heart rate zoomed up. 15% is surely even more dangerous.

Yeah, well have they done clinical trials? This is just an amalgamation of all the different stuff in Ayurveda (Indian medicine) and I dunno whether they can all be used together and what effect they'll have on modern burger king, mc dee eating bodies?!?

Guys, any idea of saw palmetto extracts?? Just spoke to a guy who went to a local dermatologist and they prescribe saw palmetto, which is supposed to some sort of mini DHT blocker but not as dangerous as Fin. Is it any good, has anyone had any success with it, without more shedding or sides?? Please help. I know some people used it in the past, but have they had any luck over time? Here are two more pics of my hair loss. I had a haircut and I was paranoid each time the barber snipped some hair off. Earlier, I used to be arm deep in hair and wouldnt even care. :-( The pics were taken after I put 2% Minox foam on the scalp, so the hair sort of slicked together and it doesnt look so bad, but in any white light, there are huge gaps in the hair which are only disguised by a comb over.

Yeah, I just mentioned it in the other page, but the mod removed the link, so there must be some reason/board rule I am unaware of. Can I copy paste the data here? Anything we can ask to be sure..I am desparate for any non Finasteride/Minoxidil solution...and I seriously cant imagine living with using Nanogen every day...just cant afford it, not to mention I'd feel even worse. :-( :-(

Future HT Doc, isnt this something different than stem cell stuff? They say they have a molecule...and then give 8-13 shots every 3 weeks. To be frank, both the docs look pretty young and "raw"...so that makes me a wee bit skeptical. And they dont describe their magic molecule. They have a contact US page which I had posted before, are there any specific questions that i can ask, would appreciate your guidance. I am pretty scared of Fin thanks to my mother, a doc, giving me a blasting..but even so, wanted to make sure i ask the right things.

Future HT Doc, what do you make of this link describing the solution? I am in deep trouble and ready to clutch at any and every straw at times, and this seems to have come just in the nick of time. Would appreciate your insight!! I do hope its safe and does not blow up into a finasteride kinda thing. :-(

Heck, where I am from, bald men are the kiss of death.. In the US, UK etc, you can pull it off a style statement...here in India, everyone sits around to make comments on how you are, and how shitty you look...and I could be in the gym 24 hours a day, and I'd never get muscles...

I totally identify with what the thread starter said...I am in a worse shape though, and I too have felt many times like blowing my brains out...and got up the next day, and somehow soldiered on. Hair loss is finally my last straw man...started five years back but in 3 years I have gone from thinning hair to full blown bald...and at the rate I am losing hair, I give myself six months before I go fully bald...the depression is so bad that I cant even bring myself out to go gymming or meeting people...:-(

Thanks man...I tend to dig around before doing something...and I ended up going to Propeciahelp.com and seeing a bunch of youtube vids. People have so many horror stories about Finasteride, it really scared the bejeesus out of me...and I am already a bit desperate. My moms a doc, and she's been giving me hell for taking Minox itself...and when I asked about Fin. she positive flipped out. Told me I was being vain...like I said, she totally doesnt get my worries. Yeah, it could be the stress but when I went to a doc he said MPB and just gave me Minox 5%, he was least bothered, and was absolutely bald himself. Yeah, when you are 50 and bald with a well settled environment, its a tad different than where I am at. Last 5 years have been the craziest in my life...and it just does not end...everyday I wake up thinking, what I did to deserve this, but no answers there...so you take what comes. Been focused on my career for some 3 years but began with an intensively hard environment, and my hair loss is just going on and on and on.. I have pretty much given up on life itself..and feel dang low now, as this was the final straw.. :-(

Hi, I am a 32 year old, with substantial hairloss on my crown and even vertex. I had a bad habit of scratching my scalp all the time, as I had dandruff and that made things worse, but i didnt lose many hairs even if I did so, and didnt realize that I had MPB in my family. Now my dad tells me my graddad was pretty bald. When I turned 27, suddenly my hair started falling out. I noticed all of a sudden it had become thinner and was coming out in huge amounts. My sides (Above the ear became bare). At the time, I was going through a lot of stress was in college studying, plus trying to keep a long distance relationship going (it broke which added more to my depression) and then my family member was sick at the time and passed away. End result was i ignored my hair loss and health, if all this wasnt enough, I ended up having a nasty accident thanks to a car, a couple of years back myself. Almost lost my life. Long story short, even as I went through all this, my hair loss really took off and my scratching probably worsened things, its just that I was so caught up in taking care of things, I really didnt notice. For me at the time, being alive was a big deal. Today, I am at the stage I am as shown in the pics, which are actually a bit better than the reality. I have huge gaps in my front which I disguise with a comb-over, but worst part is there is only one thin layer of hair thats available to do that, and even that's shedding. My hair is pretty thin itself now. I tried using Minox 5% on advice from the doc, but the shedding just wont stop, plus I always seemed tired, as it seemed to make my heart pound much faster than usual. I have now shifted to Minox 2% (Gel form) and Nizoral 1%, no luck in even stopping the shedding yet. I seem to be literally going bald overnight, with a loss of some 50-100 hairs daily, with 30 in the shower every morning. I am really scared to use Finasteride, as reading up about it on the net makes it appear to be a very dangerous medicine for many folks, and knowing that I have not exactly been very health concious over the past few years, it could add more troubles. Being bald is pretty bad for me, as I am looking to get married, and in my culture and country, its considered a significant sign of old age and not a personal statement, and women dont really look at it as a style statement. It petrifies me that within a few years I will be totally bald. I had one last hope that I could get a hair transplant, probably locally, even if I couldnt afford the top people like Hassan & Wong, if things got too bad, but it seems I have DPA, and even that is ruled out. Please tell me whether that assumption is true. I have attached my pics. I am fairly depressed now, as it seems I just cant get a break from life. Any thoughts and any hope, solutions welcome. I really dont know what to do and whom to turn to. My mates dont care & my folks think it is a bit of a joke. They are much older than me & dont even identify with my concerns. Thanks guys for hearing me out