corvettester

I completely understand your concerns and suspicions regarding the HT industry, especially considering your unfortunate past experience.

However, as far as the HTN goes, don't forget that the most important and legitimate resources are the members! Most of us have had HTs or are in the process of doing so.

Although you make a good point about how easy it is to create dummy organizations and websites, I don't think it's really reasonable to suspect that an organization with a member base the size of HTN could create thousands of dummy accounts.

If you're really worried about the legitimacy, I suggest contacting several members via PM. You'll that find many of us, myself included, are glad to give you our real names and phone numbers so that you can have a personal conversations and perhaps even meet in person.

Of course there is still more work to be done. You’ll want to not only speak to, but also meet with HT recipients, do lots of research, become conversant on HT, the procedure, what to expect, the risks, as well as have several consultations with leading doctors.

I hope this helps.

Corvettester

Wow!

The crown looks amazing. The density makes his hair look much darker and fuller for an exceptional cosmetic result. I also like that his hair is shorter in the after pics... it looks refreshed!

Corvettester

Very impressive.

Her hair characteristics are just perfect and the density is simply outstanding. It really does look completely natural. Bravo!

Corvettester

Nice result!

Judging from the before and after, that is a heck of a lot of coverage for only 1,224 grafts! I'd be very happy if I were this man.

Corvettester

Very encouraging!

As someone who is coming up on his 6 month update, I can't tell you how encouraging this is. I see so many early growers that lots of us expect too much and become to impatient and overly-critical.

Not that my HT isn't coming along well, it's just that, like anyone, I want more! It's nice to know that I potentially still have so much more to look forward to.

Thanks for the post Fritz68.

All the best,

Corvettester

I'm 30 and I just had my first HT 6 months ago. I think it's quite common for our age group.

If you're still unsure, it may be a good idea may to consult with an HT doctor to monitor your hair over the next year to see if your hair loss significantly progresses or not. Have them take lots of photos.That is what I did. The hair loss subsided for the most part, so I went ahead with the HT. It was probably just my hairline "maturing" as they call it.

I don't take meds either for the same reason, among others, that I don't want to have to be on them for the rest of my life. However, if it turns out that my hairline wasn't just maturing after all, then I'll have to reconsider medication... as well as another HT. Well see...

Corvettester

I totally understand about the meds. However, if your only concern is about the sexual side effects, it may be worth it to give it a try and see if it effects you. If so, quite immediately. At least then you'll know.

As per your age, I think you're definitely at a good age. I had mine when I was 29. I know of others who had it done in their mid twenties.

Corvettester

This video says it all:

Corvettester

Epileptic Sceptic,

In all fairness, how many of us would date a bald or balding woman?

Corvettester

Looks like it's coming along well. In another month or two it will blend in much better with your previous hairline.

As for your right filling in faster than your left, I'm in the exact same situation (check out my blog). My right side has about 25% more growth than my left. It's annoying but from what I gather here on the forums, it's quite common.

Considering your hair characteristics, I think you're going to have an excellent final result. Keep us updated.

Corvettester

Cole,

I realize that I’m late coming to this thread; however, I think this is an important case that merits the attention of the community.

As per your result, I must say that I haven’t seen a donor scar as severe as yours in a while. It’s really wide and is clearly noticeable even with a full head of hair 14 months post-op. It also has a jagged appearance to it, but perhaps that is just the photo quality misleading me…

What I don’t understand is how the doctor allowed you to go that low in the hairline with so few grafts? I had 1,700 in my hairline alone. The only difference is that I was going for about half the coverage that you were. I don’t understand how anyone could expect 1,700 grafts split between the hairline and crown to give you any semblance of coverage. In fact, your result is exactly what I would expect from so few grafts over so much coverage. From your pre-op photos, it appears to me that you would need a minimum of 2,000 grafts in the hairline alone.

Even if your doctor did discuss it with you at length prior to your procedure, in my opinion, it’s the doctor’s responsibility to put the breaks on and refuse a patient request if the patient has unreasonable goals or is too ill-informed to know what to reasonably expect.

To me, it’s clear that anyone who has done their due diligence in researching HT, could not expect so much coverage in the hairline and crown from only 1,700 grafts. So if that is what you were expecting, it should have sent off alarm bells to the doctor that you had unrealistic expectations or were ill-informed.

In any event, I’m glad to hear that you are satisfied with the doctor’s response and plan of action moving forward. I, however, would not be. I’m of the opinion that a full refund or complimentary procedure is due to you.

My reasoning is that even though physiology may have played a role with your poor yield, the donor scar is simply unacceptable! Not to sound harsh, but based on the photos you posted, it’s one of the worse that I’ve seen coming from a HTN doctor.

Further, not to sound insensitive, but it’s a rare case that a patient’s head of hair and hairline looks better before the HT than after. No offense, but I definitely prefer your pre-HT head of hair to the after—hopefully, a second procedure can correct this.

I feel for you Cole. I'm glad that you're staying positive. I hope that it works out for you in the end. Keep us updated. We’re all cheering for you here, good luck bro.

Corvettester

Dr. Feller,

Thank you for the civil tone of your last post. I encourage all your future post to contain the same respectful tone.

Just to clarify, I have never had any interactions with you or your clinic and you have never done anything to me to warrant any personal vendetta.

However, if you read through my posts, you will see that my frustration is rooted almost exclusively in the manner in which you and Spex have addressed the members of this community, including JAG, BadLuck and John Mallory.

Your language and tone on the forums is intimidating, threatening and provocative. I'm not the first to feel this way or acknowledge it. Your posts come off as condescending and arrogant and there is no place for that here.

To be perfectly honest Dr. Feller, whether you intend to or not, you come off as a big bully. Sure, that is my opinion, but I'm not alone in this opinion. Ask anyone who reads your posts if you don’t believe me.

I don't comment on the facts of each case because it's really pointless. I have based all of my arguments upon your own words, not those of JAG, BL or JM. However, if your language is discrediting and insulting to the original poster, I feel that it is the duty of the community to come to his aid provided he acted in good faith.

There is no logical reason that anyone should believe you over your patients, or vice versa. The fact that you have been in business so long is irrelevant. How long has Armani or Larry Shapiro been in business?

Furthermore, it is perfectly fair to acknowledge that this customer service complaint is not your first. This is the precious data that we base our decisions on and a doctor who cannot accept criticism has no place accepting praise.

I think you'll find that the HTN are very reasonable and forgiving people provided you give them the credit and respect they deserve. Nobody is out to get you. A patient had a bad experience and instead of trying to reconcile with him and correct the problem, you denounce him as a disingenuous liar...

This is one bad experience out of hundreds of good ones, maybe it is you who needs some perspective? You rightly command a good reputation, yet remain uncompromising the moment someone says that they had a bad experience. Although I’m sure you would never claim to be perfect, it almost appears as if you’re claiming that you and your clinic are incapable of forgetting to call a client back, letting client concerns slip through the cracks, or any other miscellaneous human error.

So why are you so defensive Dr. Feller? Nobody has claimed that you’re no good at what you do. In fact, everyone admits that you’re an expert at URFUT/FUE. You have never heard me criticize your ability at URFUT/FUE either.

In your latest post, you said

“It is unfortunate that I have to defend myself in this "court of public opinion", but in my opinion this thread has gotten way out of hand and needs some severe correcting and a reality check. It's also unfortunate certain harsh critics will disingenuously spin "my side of the story" as if I'm attacking my own patient, but I will remind everyone that I did not choose this venue.”

Really? You and your representatives are some of the most prolific posters on the HTN. How is it that you “did not choose this venue.” I don’t understand.Yes, you chose it, so how can you be surprised when the venue doesn’t support your purpose?

How is it that you are dismayed to have to defend yourself in this court of “public opinion?” It is you who has presented your work and reputation for us to review and judge. When the times are good, you’re coming up roses, but now that you’re being criticized, you portray yourself as some hapless victim! I don’t buy into it. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

To describe our deliberations on JAG’s experience at “typical internet nonsense… enjoy yourselves.” is immature and unproductive, to say the least. Why not try to work with us to come to a resolution instead of dismissing us as mudslingers? It will only make you look better by showing the HTN how much you care.

Essentially, we want doctors that stand behind their work, not their lawyers. Surely, that is not too much to ask.

Corvettester

Thanks for you input. Maybe next time we best just sit back and watch whilst we get attacked rather than calling it out.

 

Sorry some feel the way they do about me regarding this topic however i am giving my opinion (others seem to be allowed to give it) and others have backed me up. You cant please everyone and to be honest this topic should have been locked as requested a long time ago as this was inevitable which way it was going. opinions were given early doors and now its just an unfortunate chain.

 

Sorry to all i have offended but i only every tried to support justaguy yet individuals clearly wanted this topic to run in a nasty direction.

 

It was you and Dr. feller who went on the offensive from the beginning. Stop trying to play the victim card!

It's all too clear why you want this thread locked, just like the thread with BadLuck and John Mallory.

Corvettester

As predicted - the best was still to come and now its me in your sights. Undoubtedly it will carry on...

 

Your attacks are clear. I am not going to engage you further chap. People know me well - i have been here a long time and my credibility has been earnt over many years. I have never once referred to this poster justaguy as a liar and thats a fact, please dont attempt that.

 

Spex

Spex,

Again, just to be clear, it was you who first mentioned me by name.

If your position is so strong, then why to you have to beckon your reputation? Your argument should be strong enough to stand any litmus test.

"If one’s actions are honest, one does not need the predated confidence of others, only their rational perception. the person who craves a moral blank check of that kind, has dishonest intentions, whether he admits it to himself or not." Ayn Rand

Dr. Feller sure seems to be the most polarizing doctor on this site. I'm not going to take sides in this discussion because I don't have a dog in the fight, but I think Dr. Feller's response should have been more well thought out.

 

As for the agenda against Dr. Feller, I agree with Spex that one exists. I base that belief on the fact that people love to jump in and attack him at any opportunity. However, I think the general anti Feller sentiment is a large result of the fact that Dr. Feller has a tendency to come across as arrogant, and he has been known to belittle posters and other doctors on this site.

TC 17,

You make a valid point. However, I'd like you to at least entertain the idea that there exists also on these forums a coalition doctor bias!

Have you heard the expletives posters freely ascribe to doctors like Larry Shapiro or Armani? Whether the deserve it or not is irrelevant. Try saying something like that about a coalition doctor.

Also, please bear in mind that myself as well as other posters only came out swinging AFTER Dr. Feller made his outrageous comments.

Go ahead and research every thread concerning JAG, BadLuck or John Mallory. It's always Dr. Feller who comes out and says something completely insulting, condescending and provocative that excites the vitriol of posters like myself.

It's always about how Dr. Feller handles these situations that sends off the alarm bells and brings folks like myself out of the woodwork. I won't stand for it.

Corvettester

Seriously thanks for your lengthy reply however it really just washed over me. Have a pop at me all you like i have been around a long time and have very thick skin. You can now try attack me if you like and discredit me and post as much false information about me as you like you have proved already your out to get.

 

However what is screamingly obviously to me from what you have just written is you know VERY little yet you think you know it all.

 

"little knowledge is a dangerous thing"

Excuse me? Is what I said not true? Are you not a paid consultant for Dr. Feller?

Please clarify the false information I made about you Spex. If any of it is false, then I will gladly apologize and retract my statements immediately. I'm not about mudslinging. I've seen you and Dr. Feller do too much of it against your dissatisfied patients by denouncing them as liars, etc...

And in case you didn't notice, I never mentioned anything about you until you said that I had an agenda.

Do you honestly think that people can't see through what you're trying to do? Don't try to play the victim card here Spex.

Nobody is attacking you Spex, I'm just calling you on your BS.

Corvettester

 

Corvettester,

It is YOU that does NOT know what you are talking about, seriously! Regardless of whatever little circle of trust you think you belong to. Can you honestly say you know ALL the FACTS regarding the cases you bring about so flippantly . Yes or No? - simple answer.

 

I take it you do not wish to meet Dr feller face to face to discuss your opinion with regards to your resentment towards him and your opinion on how he defends himself online after so many different attacks on his character, reputation and business.

Spex,

What Don’t You Get ???

What is so difficult to understand?

I freely admit that I do NOT know every detail of the case! My complaint is based exclusively on Dr. Feller’s response to his patients!

Get this through your head man, really!

I know only what I have read from Dr. Feller in his own words and let me tell you something, it stinks! His arrogance and ego disgust me!

My second complaint is how the community demonizes anyone who complains against Dr. Feller. When members praise his work and care, nobody questions it. However, when they criticize it, they are denounced as liars.

There is really nothing else to it. Stop trying to change the subject. At no point have I ever commented on Dr. Feller’s results or ability. It is how he treats people on this forum that I am so disgusted with.

It’s only fair to mention that JAG is not alone in his complaints.

Lastly, I take all posts at face value. If JAG said he had a bad experience, I accept that. If he said he had a good experience, I accept that too. I’m not taking sides.

It’s Dr. Feller’s crude behavior that I take issue with. Do you understand now?

Corvettester

Spex,

You are an employee of Dr. Feller: you are paid for your opinions. I am not.

You, of all people, have no right to accuse anyone of an agenda. The hypocrisy is almost too much for me!

You have free reign to post you praise and accolades of Dr. Feller and you do so almost to the point of fanaticism. The HTN is cheap advertising space for you. Your inability to accept criticism is disingenuous and self-serving.

To suggest that I have an agenda is absurd and insulting. What might my motivations be? I’ll make it easy for you: my motivations are to support free expression of opinion and experiences with HT doctors without fear of reproach or litigation.

By the way, a “cheap shot” as you referred to my posts, is by definition an indirect and roundabout action… as epitomized in your comment to WB280 regarding my statements. If you have something to say to me Spex, direct it to me.

I have been very direct with my criticism of Dr. Feller and I will continue to be direct in the future. My reasoning is clear—everyone knows how and why I think what I think. I don’t need to rely on cheap shots or innuendo.

Thus, I’d be very careful talking about the “actual facts” if I were you as they are easily researched by anyone on the forums. They will be able to see in Dr. Feller’s own words how he addresses criticism. Thus, I encourage all members to research the cases of Badluck, John Mallory and JustAGuy.

I am glad to discuss my opinions on Dr. Feller’s behavior to anyone at any time, in person or online. In fact, that is what I am doing now. Everyone knows who I am. I’m not hiding anything. Of course, for obvious reasons, it’s generally not recommended that posters give out their personal details.

However, I really don’t see the point in discussing this in person. I stand by my words in person and online. I try my best to make my arguments as clear and concise as possible. I see no sense in getting off of the forums as the forums give us all a clear record of each party’s position and argument.

As many posters know, I live in Brooklyn, NY. However Dr. Feller is located in Great Neck, NY which is a suburb and certainly not local. Please do not ever equate a Long Island suburb with NYC. Regardless, there is no reason to discuss in person any of this. I really don’t understand why you would even suggest that.

If Dr. Feller does not like to discuss things online, then why does he continue to do so? Why is “behind a keyboard” fit for posting his successes but not his failures? I personally don’t see anything wrong with it as it allows each party time to craft a clear, concise argument. Are you suggesting that this forum is somehow unfit for such discussions? If so, I disagree.

Spex, you said:

“Question is have these people ever met Dr Feller in person or ever had surgery performed by him, im guessing not. Yet they seem only too vocal and quick to jump on ANY negative topic about him, yet never to be seen on ANY of the many positive topics. Why is that...?”

I have never met Dr. Feller nor have I ever had a procedure by him. I have, however, read in his own words his responses to former patients and I was very disappointed.

Furthermore, praise abounds for his work on positive topics. Dr. Feller has never suffered from lack of praise on these forums. That I choose not to join in is my prerogative. However, on a personal note, his fanboys never really sat well with me, their praise borders that of fanaticism in my opinion.

“Dr Feller has an open door policy to ALL always has, always will - and im sure he would only be too happy to meet in person with these posters rather from behind a keyboard. I recommend they make an appointment to meet the Dr in person and discuss the reasons behind their hate towards him being as they live locally before commenting further and at least meet Dr Feller in person to discuss their issues face to face. Would that not be the appropriate thing to do?”

Actually, I don’t think that would be the appropriate thing to do. Besides, it appears to be very difficult for former patients to get an interview with him, so I can only imagine what it would be like for others.

Spex, there is no shadowy network of conspirators and online trolls out to defame Dr. Feller as you seem to suggest. I’m not out to ruin his reputation, he does that well enough without my help.

I never got involved in BadLuck or JAG’s cases until after I read Dr. Feller’s shocking, condescending and crude responses to them! I simply couldn’t believe it and I still don’t. Who does he think he is? Who talks to people like that? He has no concept of customer service or people skills whatsoever!

In my profession, I deal all day long with wealthy, high-maintenance clients on the Upper East Side of NYC. No matter how unreasonable their requests or complaints, I always speak to them with respect and deference. I always take a conciliatory attitude and approach no matter how difficult they are. That is what it means to be a professional. This lack of professionalism and respect is evident in Dr. Feller’s correspondences with JAG.

I can only form my opinion, like anyone else, by the statements made by each party. When someone praises Dr. Feller or any doctor, I take them at their word. However, how could I not, in good faith, apply the same criteria when the poster is unhappy? Why is it that only successful patients get the benefit of the doubt? I see this all the time on HTN and I’m fed up with it.

It is clear to anyone that Dr. Feller usually produces excellent results, hence his reputation. However, the fact that he so militantly refuses to accept criticism speaks just as loudly. I have high standards. I expect so much more from a coalition doctor. His response is unacceptable and an apology to JAG is in order.

Spex, you’re really digging yourself as well as your reputation in a hole. You are not the only doctor advocate on HTN. I know of others that work with integrity and not as apologists for less than stellar care.

When H&W have less than optimal results, Joetronic is the first one to admit it and sympathetically address the patient concerns, openly to the HTN community. There is no “you should call me, Joetronic the guy on the forums.” There is no blaming the victim.

I’d like to end this post with an anecdote. I recently came across an interesting case from Hasson & Wong with a dissatisfied patient. I think the way they handled it was exceptional and should be viewed as the gold standard of customer service in the HT industry. I mean, after all, no doctor or clinic is infallible. It is how they handle mishaps and mistakes that is the true measure of their integrity.

The poster, “hair_me_out” a patient of H&W, had less than optimal results and a larger than usual donor scar. Joetronic got on the forum, acknowledged the poor result and unacceptable scar, took responsibility for it on behalf of H&W, immediately offered to make it right at no charge to the patient, and followed up and through with his promise.

I read later by the patient that Joetronic had even taken him out to dinner the night before his repair procedure.

Now that is quality care!!!

You see, at no point did Joetronic even slightly insinuate that the patient was at fault or had malicious intent in bringing his case to the community. He didn’t badmouth hair_me_out; he didn’t call him a liar. He took responsibility, now that is accountability! In my opinion, this case epitomizes integrity, transparency and quality care.

Any doctor, clinic or doctor representative could learn a lot from Joetronic and the folks at H&W. I hope you can too, Spex.

Corvettester

The post from tester said it all. The John Malloy and Badluck cases were already under the bridge and he has to rake it up and hinted that Feller sues patients who posted their bad results online. I have been in the forum long enough and had been involved in those threads as well. Imagine a newbie coming online and having to read that! The sole reason the lawsuits came up was that both of them accused Feller of drugging them and thats a very severe accusation. I am not sure what Tester's agenda is about and its the least interest of mine to start an online spat but it is wat is it. Your posts are now leaving holes for Feller's haters to come in and add fire to fuel. Seriously u sound like a reasonable person, do u wish for that to happen?

 

 

My best guess is that Dr Feller is of the idea that u are troubled with your transplant and that warranted a face to face meeting but on the other hand, all u wanted was a bit of time to speak to him on a few general questions. Its a miscommunication issue and nothing to do with etiquette and such, so can we all be mature adults and move on?

WB280,

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

JAG was attacked for simply and civilly stating his bad experience with Dr. Feller. This isn't the first time this has happened.

I'm sick of seeing this on the HTN. This forum is designed for such purposes. The moment anyone has a complaint against a coalition doctor, he is denounced as a liar! As if coalition doctors are beyound criticism.

You cannot call someone a liar for stating their bad experience. I don't care if everyone else had a positive experience with Dr. Feller, it has no bearing on JAG's experience.

Further, this is the third time in five months that a former patient of Dr. Feller has made complaints against his practice. Each time Dr. Feller's response, and that of his fanboys, is to denounce them as liars and mudslingers and take no responsibilty for their poor experience.

Also, WB280, it appears to me that you are trying to downplay this to an unfortunate case of "miscommunication." It's not. To repeat, this is the third time in five months. Thus, JAG has a right to be heard.

Regarding Badluck and John Mallory, you clearly oversimplify their cases. However, this is not the place to go into it. I simply encourage all readers to view the threads for themselves and to read Dr. Feller's own words regarding the matter... you may be shocked as I was to read how Dr. Feller responded!

So, yes, I think it is important to let all the members of the community know that Dr. Feller publicly threatened to sue posters for defamation.

It is Dr. Feller's strong-arm tactics and that of his fanboys that I am against. All of these threads could have remained civil had it not been for Dr. Feller taking them to the dogs with his bullying and arrogance.

I'm not alone in thinking that this is no way for a doctor to comport himself publicly. I mean, go back and read the doctor's own words... and then his backtracking on his "typos." Pathetic, if you ask me.

Lastly, I want to comment on the logical fallacy of posters having "agendas" on the HTN. I often come across posters being accussed of having "agendas" for simply disagreeing with the majority!

What kind of nonsense is this? If you want to play it out to it's logical conclusion, then doesn't that mean that all the fanboys have agendas too?

Again, my original concern is not with the veracity of JAG’s experience, but with Dr. Feller’s crude treatment of his former patient. Dr. Feller has no right to speak the way he has on this forum.

This is my opinion; I'm entitled to it. I know I'm not alone in it. Many of us are fed up with the "yes-men" culture on the HTN.

Corvettester

If you're going to attack Dr. Feller like this, I think it's fair to expect that you're going to post more than one crappy photo. How could anyone judge your result with just one photo? I don't blame the doctor for being ticked off at the attack on him.

Curious,

Did you not read JustAGuy's posts?

He made it explicitly clear twice that his complaint was not with his less than optimal HT, but rather with the poor follow up care and customer service. The photos are completely irrelevant to his complaint.

JustAGuy said "Again, I want to stress that I don't question Dr. Feller's competence, and that the failure of my surgery was probably to factors beyond his control."

He then went on to clarify that his grievance was with Feller's refusal to communicate with him, poor customer service, etc...

I don't know about anyone else, but I would find it entirely unacceptable if my only avenue of communication with my HT doctor was via email. For the price one pays for an HT, I believe a higher level of service and care is expected.

Corvettester

JustAGuy,

I want to reach out to you to let you know that you are not alone and that there are those of us who sympathize with your experience as well as your right to post said experience. I find such critiques invaluable. In fact, there isn't enough of it online as nobody is above criticism.

I really appreciate your civility and honesty; it's unfortunate that Dr. Feller was incapable of reciprocating the same civility.

This seems to be a recurring problem with Dr. Feller. Any time anyone criticizes him or his practice, he explodes! Two previous posters (Badluck and John Malloy) were publicly threatened with lawsuits and I haven't heard from them since. So I advise that you are always careful with your choice of words and proceed with caution, you don't want a lawsuit.

Good luck with your situation and don't hesitate to reach out to me via PM if you need anything.

All the best,

Corvettester

Wow! Not Again!

Dr. Feller's own words do more damage to his reputation than anything JustAGuy could have said. Dr. Feller's response and tone is outrageous and has no place on the forums.

This isn't the first time I've been shocked to read Dr. Feller's responses to his dissatisfied patients and I've only been on the HTN about 6 months.

This makes three separate cases in the last six months of former patient complaints about Dr. Feller and his practice... that is three more than any other coalition doctor on the HTN that I am aware of.

Furthermore, this isn't the first time I've seen posters complaining about poor customer service, communications and / or poor results from Dr. Feller. At least he hasn’t threatened JustAGuy with a lawsuit… yet!

It makes me wonder, how is it that Dr. Feller is a coalition doctor?

Does he really think that he is above criticism? He could have handled it so much better, like a gentleman and professional, but clearly he chose not to. If posters cannot post their honest complaints or praises without fear of reproach (or litigation), then what is the point of the HTN?

I advise anyone considering an HT to take the time to research Dr. Feller's practice and read in his own words how he handles dissatisfied patients. As someone mentioned before, it is not how a man acts in the good times that his character can be accurately measured, but how he acts in the bad times.

Corvettester

Weird? I just went back to review the photos once more and suddenly there were two additional photos at the bottom of the post of the patient in his home. They were not there when I initially viewed the thread and made my first comment.

Jotronic, did you add new photos later? It could have just been that my browser didn't load them.

Either way, after viewing the new photos, I'm going to have to retract what I said previously about his result. In the photos of the patient in his home with his cat, his result looks just great: very natural, very dense, very refined and ten years younger! I'm happy for him. It looks like a 5,000 graft HT.

Jotronic, just a thought, but I think the photos of the patient in the clinic are just terrible and do no justice to the true result. Maybe the lighting is too harsh? Or is that what you intend: to show the result in the harshest possible conditions?

One last thing, I always notice that the "before" photos of H&W clients all look like serial killers, then the "after" photos they're all smiles, holding little kittens... come on man! A former patient even mentioned once that you guys tell them to put on their "mean" face in the "before" photos... LOL!!!

Well... it's definitely working!

Corvettester

Good stuff man.

corvettester

I would have expected a lot more from 5,000 grafts too! The hairline looks natural though, I assume that is where most of the grafts were placed. I just would have expected it to be a little lower as he still appears to have a minor widow's peak. To me, he looks like he went from a NW4-5 to a NW3, which is clearly an improvement.

Although I can't imagine too many people will ever see the top part of his head, it's the overhead pics that are the least impressive. It almost looks like he is a diffuse thinner. There is a definite cosmetic improvement, but I'd want more density if I were him.

corvettester