GNX1

 

What we are now discussing as a disadvantage of FUE is the long-term survival and characteristics of FUE grafts taken from the scalp for large transplants relative to the long-term survival and characteristics of FUT grafts taken from the scalp for large transplants -- the disadvantage of FUE in this context stemming from the necessity to take many of such grafts from above and below the "sweetest" zone within the safe zone where the best quality, most DHT-resistant follicular units within the safe zone are found.

are you implying that those who have had FUE have grafts that are likely to fall out sooner then if they were taken via FUT?

By contrast, each and every large FUE transplant requires that many grafts be taken from above or below the sweetest spot of the safe zone.

see this is where the misinformation comes from when talking about large FUE cases when the doctor giving said advice doesnt perform BHT on a regular basis. factor in beard and body hairs (which can result in 10,000+ EXTRA grafts) and sweet and safe zone arguments go right out the door....:rolleyes:

By contrast, each and every large FUE transplant requires that many grafts be taken from above or below the sweetest spot of the safe zone.

see this is where the misinformation comes from when talking about large FUE cases when the doctor giving said advice doesnt perform BHT on a regular basis. factor in beard and body hairs (which can result in 10,000+ EXTRA grafts) and sweet and safe zone arguments go right out the door....:rolleyes:

For what it's worth:

 

As someone "behind the scenes," I can assure the community that Bill openly and honestly shared everything that occurred with Dr. Bhatti's recommendation.

this is an open forum where were supposed to educate one another on why we should or should not chose a particular HT doctor but I have yet to hear any of those so-called concerns. lets hear em so we can all be educated.

casue imo to call out a HT doctor who is obvioulsy doing excellent work and then never publish what those concerns are so he can defend himself is irresponsible.

those that are new to the forum would simply automatically assume that his work is inferior and would therefore not chose him.

Really great results shown, thanks for posting. That provides a lot of reassurance that there is always an alternative once donor from the head is exhausted!

 

 

 

Your 3 posts in this thread have been to bash others and act like someone on their high horse who knew BHT was great all along - rather than to give comments on the work presented.

 

Bravo, sir.

I predict a day in this industry when strip surgery goes the way of the plug, banished to the dustbin of history.

 

I think FUE is here to stay for quite a while but I honestly believe it will be phased out as well as soon as HM and stem cell are perfected.

killer work. umar is the body hair king with Bisanga coming in second. these repair patients would have been left living feeling disfigured if not for body hair transplantation. i still remember dr. feller being very against dr. Umar's recommendation here stating both fue and body hair transplantation were still in their experimental stages(this was in 08, fue had been around a good 6 years) and he said dr. Umar should not be considrred because he does not offer fut the 'gold standard'. it was really something.

its amazing what some doctors will say to cast a poor image of other doctors when they feel threatened by their skillz....:rolleyes: seems to be quite a bit of that going on here behind the scenes with Dr. Bhatti. opinions dont mean chit! RESULTS speak for themselves.

I can also remember Dr. True bashing FUE about 10 years ago yet I seen him at Dr. Wodz seminar in NY city back in like 2001 when he came here to present his technique in attempt to get other HT doctors on board with his procedure.

have to disagree with the number of grafts availble with FUE vs. FUT. FUT only allows grafts taken from head.

FUE allows grafts to be taken from the entire body which is why Dr. UImar is able to transplant 15000-20000 grafts. there isnt any FUT doctors transplanting that many grafts from ones head.

have to disagree with the number of grafts availble with FUE vs. FUT. FUT only allows grafts taken from head.

FUE allows grafts to be taken from the entire body which is why Dr. UImar is able to transplant 15000-20000 grafts. there isnt any FUT doctors transplanting that many grafts from ones head.

wow look at those beard pics. there is absolutely ZERO signs of scarring. all the more reason to utilize FUE over FUT.

I chuckle when seeing these threads. it just completely and utterly dismisses the theory that if someone needs a LOT of grafts cause they are NW5 , 6 or 7 their only option is FUT. utter nonsense....

agreed, he looks 20+ yrs younger. very impressive!

impressive

looks decent

GNX,

 

While I understand some of your frustration, I don't think there is any reason to state that all hair transplant surgeons are unethical, greedy, and ruin people's lives. Personally, I feel like the physicians on this network are dedicated, hardworking, and truly passionate about hair restoration.

there are plenty of hard working doctors on this forum. no one is disputing that.

Most of his hair groupings were bulky four hair follicular units.

GNX1, do you mind elaborating on that a bit? With aggressive approach, do you mean that Bhatti only placed grafts around the hairline, rather than spreading them all over?

 

personally, I dont see the point in having a HT if ur just gonna look less bald by creating a high hairline. others feel differently.

if ur donor hair is limited then obviously the doctor has to spread out the grafts and the hairline will be placed higher but if u have plenty of donor hair (head, face, body) then save up more money and get it done right the first time. thats how I feel about it but the majority dont need that many grafts so its more affordable to them.

but for those needing 5000-7000 grafts affording a HT surgeon is just a pipe dream for them unless you go outside the US or Europe. OR you opt for FUT and thats not something I am interested in personally.

HT doctors charging $35k-$50k for 2-3 days of work is a rip-off imo which is why doctors like Bhatti are and will continue to become more popular. 6000 grafts at $6-8 a grafts will result in $35-50k and thats on the low side considering many charge more. thats absured! a complete face lift from world class plastic surgeon dosent even charge that much. a HT is no facelift....:rolleyes:

but because those who have lost their hair are some of the most desperate people on earth (I speak from experience:rolleyes:) when it comes to ellective surgery I feel HT doctors take advantage of that desperation and rip people off.

competition continues to drive the price down thank god.

GnXi, i agre with lorenzo, he said it how i meant it , You have your opinion and i know what happened and you werent there,A little info, i signed up for a 2 day procedure of 2500 beard grafts but i wanted 500 more since the doctor does 1500 grafts daily, i had 900 done first day, then the 2nd day i had 1400 grafts done then i had to go 1 more day in which i laid 3 hours on the grafts (which its states in contract not to lay on grafts for several months)I been sleeping sitting up for 3 weeks no I also asked him since i was completely numb on 3rd day to put in the other 500 or as many as he would do and he said no, His assist was upstairs putting grafts on another patient, My opinion is that laying for all those hours caused the problem , then he personally put the remainder grafts i paid for. Why would i go through all the pain again of putting injections through my beard for 300 grafts, He REFUSED to put anymore in,I yelled and bit my inner mouth like a little kid screaming for his mom, Its a very hard to take the pain of the needle and now have necrosis , i like to put u in that situation. I waited 10 years to fix myself, what do u know of what i been through. I dont know if your a woman or who you are but thank god your not a doctor. I prefer not to hear from you, thank you....

I wud say do more homework. clinics that no one has heard of shud be avoided like the plague imo but its ur head and ur money.....

ur on ur way to being a solid NW7 and you do not have enough donor hair in the donor zone. ur hair is already thinning in ur donor zone and ur scar will be very noticable.

ur gonna have to look into a doctor that performs FUE so u can extract beard and body hairs if u want 6000 grafts.

How do you know whos fault it is? I have never come across or seen anyone with necrotis in over 12 years from any of the coaltion doctors. This could be a fluke that happened that has nothing to do with the doctors work, but in the same time you cant blame the patient because none of us know why it happened.

 

gnx1 regardless of how the necrosis was caused i would expect my surgeon to answer my emails as obviously is a very traumatic event .

its called creating a good patient /doctor relationship.

you seem to infer that the doctor is justified in ignoring the patient because it was his fault . thank god you are not a doctor!!

FUT the Gold Standard? NOT with results like this. thats art work right there.

thats some serious dense packing there. more great work from one the worlds best.

looks great for so few grafts. but thats quite a comb over. nonetheless, amazing results with so few grafts. especially since he is much closer to a NW6 or maybe even NW7.

Hi, i would be careful with dr umar, he initially spends time with u to tell u how many grafts and how much money it will cost but after that good luck if u get an email to answer a question, I developed necrotic tissue damage and scared to death and now he's not answering my email and probably have to go to a plastic surgeon to fix the damage this beard surgery has done, be leary my friends.I posted the damge on my profile. I am sick to death , $20,000 after...